mike bloomberg won't be there anymore.nk the practical effect, paul is that the police are going to step back a little bit on stop and frisk until this is resolved. if a democrat wins, they won't appeal this decision which i think has no chance of surviving on appeal. >> bloomberg is going to appeal it, go to the federal second circuit and could make it to the supreme court after that. if a democratic mayor is elected, none of them will appeal and the case is done. >> it could have a chilling effect on other police departments around the country. this could have reverberations around the country, which would be a shame. the focus is on police behavior instead of black behavior. that's where the focus should be. blacks make up about 23% of new york city's population. but they're involved in 80% of the shootings. they've mentioned the homicide rate in the city over the years. in the early 1990s, 2,000 plus a year. last year 400. i mean, what we're talking about is a policy that has helped saved black lives. most of this crim

small. >> following mike bloomberg is a large part of that context.er it's stop and frisk or economic recovery or the fact he is a multibillionaire, you know, by comparison a lot of these folks are going to seem run-of-the-mill. they are career politicians by and large and that is one thing they are fighting against. did weiner do himself any good with the chat? i do think so in some ways. >> really? how? >> what he has continued to argue and what he argued yesterday again is that i'm tough enough to push through this. >> have you to be tough to be mayor of new york. >> exactly. he does talk about policy and some smart ways. but he certainly is the defensive here. he has had trouble getting past it certainly in a media sense. he is spending way more time than he expected talking about what he did online and, yeah, he's always had a cranky side to him but getting beaten up in these polls don't help. >> let me play another clip and we will continue the conversation. >> a victim of late. a victim with someone else. embarrassing. i did it during a slow pe

bloomberg not a happy man. we're going to be talking about that. also, mike barnicle here to talk about whitey bulger and the conviction in boston. wow, that's really something too. willie geist, you know, there are times, there are moments, there are cracks in time in history where something terrible happens, historically, and there's really no great explanation and, of course, you and i always talk about this. >> yeah. >> gettysburg. >> what -- >> i just know you're up to something. >> the best part of the show, i have no idea where we're going now. i'm just waiting. >> no no, no. willie and i talk, gettysburg, he gets the word in and he says to one of his generals, use your division. he goes, sir, i have no division. >> god. >> and lee figures out, all is lost because of pickett's charge and he says, it is my fault. it's all my fault. that's all he had. mack na mara, secretary of defense, obviously, fog of war on vietnam. >> yes. >> we were wrong. >> yes. >> just write it down in the history books. >> that's right. >> simple, painful, searing truth. yester

. >>> mike bloomberg is appealing a court ruling against the stop and frisk policy and says it would be irresponsible if the next administration decided to stop the appeal. >>> west virginia county judge michael thorns bury has been charged in a love triangle plot and suspended. he allegedly had al affair with his secretary and tried to frame her husband for crimes he did not commit. >>> barbara bush, the daughter of former president george bush said she would like to see hillary clinton run in 2016 but did not say she would vote for clinton saying it would depend who she would be running against. >>> michelle obama told parade magazine that the country is ready for its first woman president and mrs. obama said a definite no when asked if she would run in the future. >>> former house speak ser newt gingrich is now on instagram. his first post was a photo of him hanging out with some lemurs. very random indeed. i'm a big fan of lemurs. they're very cute. >>ure like a zologist. >> beyonce and animals give me life. >> that's your therapy? . >> exactly. i love it. if i had told you it wa

but the the main ingredient to see that happen will be money so it'll be somebody like a blue mike bloomberg who can put up a billion dollars of ozone. well perot some years ago exactly i mean it it really is it's incumbent on money or do you take away from the campaign well that it's not of that it's not a fair process that that that there are powers that be if you will that prevent everybody from having an equal shot and nobody should not everybody should have an equal shot i mean somebody lives under an ether underneath a bridge is homeless really might have great ideas but is that person going to be the next president united states but it in my case i think i have a resume that would suggest that i could do the job and do a good job two party system go sacrosanct go she keeps itself and follow exactly the presidential debate commission presidential debate commission made up of republicans and democrats and they have no no intention whatsoever of seeing a third party be in the presidential debates have an idea for the presidential debates by the way there were four candidates last in two

where does mike bloomberg get off getting involved in my life. n't ever want to meet bloomberg in my life. all of a sudden i'm in new york and i have got to worry about i can't have salt? lighten up, pal. >> are you an angler in are you a fisherman? you throw he that line out there once in a while. >> i have been known to work an angle, yes, of course. >> bill: putin and miller and i are big putin fans. form a little putin fan club. apparently putin went to siberia and caught a pike that weighs 46 pounds. there he is. there is putin. he kissed the pike there, i believe. >> billy, the monitor is partially obscured there. did you just put up another anthony weiner photo. >> no that was putin. >> scared the living hell out of me. i thought this is getting really weird. that's beyond limit. you can't keep that. no he got it. but here is the controversy. fishermen tell me that there there is has never been a pike that's been 46 pounds ever caught. biggest pike is about 27 pounds. and putin is fudging it here. >> i love putin because he wears camo out o

sam, it is interesting how mayor mike bloomberg plays defense. on friday he said that public housing residents should be fingerprinting as a crime fighting measure. >> yeah, and that brings up an interesting, the broad question here, is technology, you know, encouraging this national security state? are we developing means of screening people, of testing people, of detaining people, of questioning people that is real really introducive much farther into scour privacy. we're about to hit the dimension returns. we're getting to the point that people are really fed up with what's happening. i think people are just really tired of all of these different policies being instituted. >> i would say, i think the nsa stuff and stop and frisk are slightly different insofar as the racial element. >> what are we willing to do to prevent the next x. >> we have to ask that question. i sort of want to talk a little bit about bloomberg's legacy here. because this is a man with, i mean he's coming out swinging and swinging hard complete ly - i think all of these p

now, mike bloomberg is a great innovator, but i have to say i've heard straight from the horses mouthfrom mayor bloomberg that he detests the new york times. >> does he want to buy it and change it? >> he might want to do the latter. but it's not up for sale as they have made clear for the moment. but bloomberg thinks it's an opinion on the front page. he really loathes it. that may be because he's covered day after day and has an ego the size -- >> i wouldn't imagine a new york mayor thought differently. >> no one was the richest mayor and has the capacity to buy it. he's done astonishing things in the media. being a newspaper proprietor is the exception. so jeff bezos may in fact be a wizard in many ways. but it remains to be seen if he has the same values as the grahams. and if you trust don graham as i learned to in ten years at the washington post, i never had to trust him more than in his judgment to revive the washington post. >> cory -- >> but one quick tng, it's not just about strengthening journalism. it's also about looking at news and seeing how can we reinvent it, how can

where is mike bloomberg get off getting involved in my life? ant to meet bloomberg in my life. all of a sudden i'm in new york and i have got to worry about saying i can't have salt? lighten up, pal. >> not very nice. delicious. >> bill: you are an angler. fishermen, throw that line out there once in a while. >> i have been known to work an angle, of course. >> putin, miller and i were big putin fans. apparently putin went to siberia and caught a pike that weighs 46 pounds. there is he. there is putin. just put up another anthony weiner photo? >>. no that was putin. >> scared the living hell out of o -- i thought this is getting really weird. that's beyond limit. you can't keep that. >> so he got it, but here's the controversy. fishermen tell me that there has never been a pike that's been 46 pounds ever caught that is -- biggest pike is about 27 pounds. and putin's fijing it here. >> yeah. well, i love putin because he wears camo out on the lake and waiters when he is inside the forest. i don't know what that is about. he is the most interestin

so it has become, it's become a big issue in a mayoral race where mike bloomberg remains pretty popular but just not among those democratic primary voters. >> i remember up there when kathy and i were up there with our teenaged kids at the time. and we were hanging around a bookstore like we do. and i felt safe. i remember going to the subways and saying they smell better. there's something that's going on in terms of the broken window syndrome, the old james q. wilson, you got to stop the petty crime. and it helps create a climate of law abiding citizenship. >> something went on that was positive. >> exactly, i grew up across the river, so a safe new york is a great new york from my point of view. and my kids go there so i want them to be safe. but broken windows is a perfect example, nobody argues about going after businesses and going after housing areas, where things are run down. that doesn't violate nanybody's rights. when you get to the issue of stop and frisk, you have to be more careful of stop and frisk. >> there's one thing you do, it's very hard to stop murder. but he knows

. >> i made a joke to mike bloomberg, it was in the height of the controversy about the bike lanes.s going to do is hold a press conference tearing out your [ bleep ] bike lanes. and it was a joke. >> is there this side of these politicians, in this case, weiner, everyone would be shocked to know? >> yeah, and oddly enough, i kind of enjoy that side of him. >> all right. have fun at the gentleman's club tonight. >> i will. you have fun on fox news. >> i will, thank you for coming. >> that is all the time we have left this evening, let not your heart be troubled. the news continues. greta van susteren standing by live to go on the record see you back here tomorrow night. greta, take it away. >>> tonight lois lerner, is she pulling a fast one again? >> i have not done anything wrong. i have not broken any laws. i have not violated any irs rules or regulations, and i have not provided false information to this or any other congressional committee. while i would very much like to answer the committee's questions today, i've been advised by my council to assert my constitutional right no

now, mike bloomberg is a great innovator, but i have to say i've heard straight from the horses mouthom mayor bloomberg that he detests the new york times. >> does he want to buy it and change it? >> he might want to do the latter. but it's not up for sale as they have made clear for the moment. but bloomberg thinks it's an opinion on the front page. he loathes it that may be because he's covered day after day. >> i wouldn't imagine a new york mayor thought differently. >> no one was the richest mayor and has the capacity to buy it. being a newspaper proprietor is the exception. so jeff bezos may in fact be a wizard in many ways. but it remains to be seen if he has the same values as the grahams. and if you trust don graham as i learned to in ten years at the washington post, i never had to trust him more than in his judgment to revive the washington post. >> cory -- >> but one quick thing, it's not just about strengthening journalism. but look at news to reinvent it and redefine it to move beyond what is covering what is corrupt and broken to cover what is working. with his foundatio

you ran against mike bloomberg and you almost beat him.e candidate of change and why are they looking at bill de blasio as the candidate of change? >> i think as you look at the polls and responses there, they haven't -- they've always proven to be relatively inaccurate. look at my last election in 2009. had me deadlocked with african-americans with mike bloomberg for two days to go and i won three quarters of the vote. i think what you are seeing now is the electorate still making up its mind. just focusing as we're ten days to go. i'm real confident that things in the end will coalesce. i'm going to do well. if there is a run-off, i'm in that run-off and i'm going to wind up being the democratic nominee after that. not worried about the poll numbers. it's a question of going out, getting the job done, continuing to reach out to voters each and every day. that's how it's going to end. >> but we set this up in the introduction. there's something that's somewhat extraordinary that seems to be going on. that is that this assumption from the

just a few hours ago, the new york city council voted to override mayor mike bloomberg's vetoes. a new watchdog group will be created making it easier for people to file racial profiling claims against the nation's largest police department. but does this put the public in danger? joining me now with reaction to this developing story, republican new york city mayoral candidate joe lhota. good to have you here, sir. >> david, great to be here. >> first let's put up the full screen of what this program is. stop, question and frisk. stop to temporarily detain a person for questioning. frisk, a running of the hands over the clothing, feeling for a weapon. search, to place hands inside a pocket or other interior part of clothing to determine if an object -- if object felt is a weapon. pretty accurate description? that's coming right out of the nypd patrol guide. >> absolutely. >> this reflects the supreme court decision, decision written by earl warren. >> right. >> so first of all, are you for this program? >> i am absolutely for this program. it's one of the key elements in how crim

that is can you break from the mike bloomberg era.aking from that era. i think bill de blasio has filled the hole that has been left in this race. because quite frankly, nobody's really captured it. we've had probably now -- i think we've seen a poll where each of these four candidates wasn't one point on top. >> yeah. bounces all around. including of course anthony weiner. that ain't happening anymore though. you're actually going to have quinn on today. >> we have christine quinn on at 11:00 a.m. talking about how these polls answered up. you had her on yesterday. >> she wouldn't answer my question. >> about the animal stuff? >> the first thing i asked was -- i figured she didn't want to talk about anthony weiner so what are we going to do. i started off by asking her if anthony weiner were a tree, what kind of tree would he be. got some great responses on twitter which i can't repeat. >> we'll check out your twitter feed. so we can look at them. we have her at 11:00. as the governor points out, bill de blasio is, you know, right no

mayor mike bloomberg and commissioner ray kelly defend the program and announce plans to repeal.st mr. newt gingrich. thank you both for being here. newt, i'm going to start with you and the proposition of this decision is, stop and frisk is controversial, but not the way you do it, new york. what's your feeling about that? >> well, i think, first of all, commissioner kelly has made very clear the people who are most in danger from this judge's decisions are young african-american males, because they are overwhelmingly the victim of murder. and the dramatic drop in crime of new york starting with mayor giuliani and continued by mayor bloomberg is astonishing. last year was the least violent year in modern new york history. commissioner kelly estimates that 7,700 lives have been saved in part as a result of this policy, so i think this judge is taking a huge moral burden on himself to suggest that the process which has saved thousands of lives ought to be dropped. he's relatively safe. young black males aren't. >> now, there's a big number that refutes what newt is saying and the

. >>> mike bloomberg is a one off. people like him come along maybe once in a century.donors or special interests. but he's independent of both donors and voters. >> to have a mayor who is so essentially suburban, you know, that is to me one of his biggest faults. >> i've had a chance to cook for him. every time, we'll talk. he constantly reminds me of hire from the community, keep it local. >> he's not perfect, he's got his critics but, you know, we're much better of for his having been mayor for the last dozen years than otherwise. >> suburban mayor? i never knew. all right. that was of course new yorkers weighing in on the legacy of michael bloomberg. as his time in office comes to an end. "the new york times" looks at the bloomberg years in their special edition of the metropolitan section. with us now, two contributors to the special section. "new york times" reporter michael barboa and "times" columnist jim dwyer. yesterday was fascinating. front page, seeing certain parts of the city before bloomberg and after bloomberg. as you guys dug into it, all of the time h

this is the same people that brought you a third term from mike bloomberg. i don't care. it makes them nuts i don't care. >> he didn't spare host and buzz feed editor in chief ben smith. >> you can do this or show videos of cats or whatever it is you do at buzz feed. >> weiner also said he hasn't spoken to the clintons in months. he said in general he's keeping his distance from his colleagues in public life because he knows he has a lot to prove to them. charlie, norah. >> thanks elaine. new york's current mayor michael bloomberg is furious over the federal judge's ruling. the judge says the stop and frisk policies illegally targets minorities. she's naming an independent monitor to overseas changes. bloomberg says the policy has saved thousands of lives, most of whom are young minority men. >> this is a very dangerous decision made by a judge that i think just does not understand how policing works. we believe we have done exactly what the courts allow and the constitution allows us to do and we will continue to do everything we can to keep this city safe. >> bloomberg

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mike bloomberg is saying he will appeal, saying the policy has been essential to getting weapons off the members of our police department the tools they need to do their jobs without being micro managed and second-guessed every day by a judge or monitor. >> stephanie: hillary clinton made the protection of voting rights a key point in her speech before the american bar association yesterday. she pointed out that this year, 31 states have introduced more than 80 bills, and called on congress to fix the part of the voting rights act that the supreme court struck down. >> anyone who says that racial discrimination is no longer a problem in american elections, must not be paying attention >> and one of the four states in particular was north carolina who's governor just released a decision that requires new id. >> protecting the integrity of every vote cast is among the most important duties i have as governor. and it's why i signed these common sense, common place protections into law. >> he also points out we need photo id to do lots of things, and this is not unusual. we're back after

. >> third term for mike bloomberg.t care and it makes them nuts. >> bill: i gotta say, this is the anthony weiner that i like. >> yeah. >> bill: when he was on the floor of the house, he would take on everybody, right? >> i think he's -- interesting to watch him fight with "the new york times." they don't like him. that's pretty clear. they have not been particularly big fans of him for awhile now. you know. i think in new york, this plays well. a lot of people -- a lot of new yorkers do not like "the new york times." they are partisans to the daily news or "the post" or whatever. they think "the new york times" is this -- doesn't understand what it is like to live in queens or brooklyn. if you read "the new york times," there is a place called brooklyn over there. and every week, there is this random story like that. i can see how this is a smart sort of populous way for him to talk to the public. this is classic anthony weiner, you know. >> bill: did he make any news last night? >> well, yes. there was some stuff on

mayor mike bloomberg, police commissioner ray kelly and many others believe it has helped dramatically in cutting down crime. what does it mean? it means police have the ability to stop people that they want to, even though they haven't technically committed a crime, and to frisk them to see if they're carrying weapons. they claim they have been able to get a lot unsafe guns, illegal guns off the streets as a result and dramatically reduce crime. now a judge has said, a federal judge has said unconstitutional. going to throw the whole thing out. >>clayton: a violation of civil liberties. if you look at the numbers, it is fascinating. from 2003 the crime rate at 7.4 up to in -- in 2012, murder rate down to 5. in major cities skraos the united states, if you compare other major cities, chicago 18% murder rate, philadelphia 21.5. your point lays claim to this as being responsible for this. mayor michael bloomberg fired up saying this is going to turn this city -- he was trying to bring back memories to the lawless 1980's where every day people woke up to headlines of people being murdered

new yorkers watching this program will not be able to move into the market rate housing that mike bloomberg brags about. that's the problem. we need housing for them. i don't care if it's big or small. >> mr. salgado. >> i want to be remembered as a major who fought for all the inhabitants of new york city, especially those who are basically enslaved which are the millions of latinos who are called illegal. i believe that slavery's not abolished. slavery has been transferred to my people. dr. martin luther king fought for his people, i want to be remembered for the latino guy who spoke with an accent who fought for his people as well. >> mr. liu. hu lew we know we have challenges, and we're going to have to change the way new york looks like. many of the changes we need are not about the appearance of the city. i want to be known as the mayor who created jobs. we have an unemployment rate that's higher, significantly higher than the national average. we have jobs that are being created, but for some reason the unemployment rate continues to go up, and it's not just because people are coming

party those long two is now in mexico and i think that these programs can work to a point where mike bloombergt on to mexico about two years ago to look at the program and see how some of these issues could be tongue-in-cheek tropical ice and rock of brooklyn and queens and staten island to generate that and create entrepreneurship in a sense of society. this brings us all to very important facts, which is the role of cities. i think it's very fitting that we are in denver, a city that has been reinvented and reinvent the itself. because cities have become the new hubs of innovation of enlightened public policy. when you see gridlock in washington, it is the mayors that are reinventing public policy. that is where it's happening. it's happening in places like mexico city. so there's a very interesting connection where the cities become the new hubs of cultural diversity and mentality. >> you are famously a strong libertarian. have you feel about the kind of government intervention with things like cash transfers and trying to create a social policy that in a sense does keep pace? >> i am a lib

that is the news from the stock exchange and bloomberg business report. >> mike nicco is joining us nowa look at what is in the forecast on this back-to-school day. >> to the east bay, you can see what is going on over in the san ramon valley unified school district encompassing danville and san ramon and 60 degrees this morning as you head off to school and 88 at 3:30 whether you are going do football practice or women's valley ball or water polo, cross country, or, just staying after the study on the first day of class. sure. that will happen. kidding aside we will talk about the wind at 15 to 25 over the bay water and the delta from 2:00 this afternoon to 8:00 during the evening hours. it will be choppy and breezy. fairfield win at 13 miles per hour, and the rest of us are eight or below, a very limited sea breeze and the clouds are having a hard time pushing to the east but they are making san francisco disappear as we look from mount tamalpais with a couple of the buildings sticking out there. that is a nice backdrop but warmer this afternoon. we will have mild weather through frid

that is the news from the new york stock exchange and the bloomberg business report. >> mike has come over to visit with the forecast. >> he bring good news. >> hopefully. hopefully you want warmer weather. that is what we have. 5:17. radar satellite, it is pretty empty as far as radar with dry air. we have more clouds along the coast and they are starting to develop long the east bay shoreline. we will watch temperature like yesterday with our fingers crossed that any delays at sfo are minimal. i wanted it show you the north bay where i found the cold temperatures this morning. santa rosa is friction. and bodega bay is at 47 and mill valley at 48 and 49 and american canyon at friction, a cool spot, and it is unlawful only there but san ramon at 49 degrees. brentwood is the warm spot at 60. alameda and new york at 57. 75 in san carlos and redwood city and san jose. cupertino is 51 degrees. today, we will have warmer temperatures this afternoon. more clouds are coming during the overnight hours and that could drop the temperatures a little bit this weekend but we are in a steady patter

you know, i don't represent bloomberg lp or mike bloomberg, there have been reports he's interested in buy a newspaper such as "the new york times." i think in general these days with newspapers they tend to attract people with deep pockets because it requires a lot of money to keep them going or keep them funding into the future. >> guest: the reality is the future bids model for a newspaper company is somewhat uncertain with, again, advertising revenues continuing to decline. for now some seven years, with profitability uncertain, with future consumer habits unknown in the world, in the digital world. we don't know what the next product will be to disrupt the way people get and give information. you know, six, seven years ago if we'd have talked about the iphone, we wouldn't have known what that was. laptops are only about three years old. so if your going to buy a newspaper, you're not buying it per se for the dollars and cents coming in, you're buying it for a sense of civic responsibility in the best case or in the worst case to help your friends and punish your enemies. so these

so i think these programs can work to a point where mike bloomberg went down to mexico years ago to look at the program and see how some of the issues could be tongue-in-cheek tropical wise to to generate that kind of traditional program to create on to the inertia and the sense of the stakeholder ship in the society. and so, given that is also brings us to a very important fact which is the role of cities in the reinvention of the community and i think it is very fitting that we are in denver in the city that is being reinvented and that has reinvented itself. the cities have become the innovation of the enlightened public policy when you see the gridlock in washington they are reinventing the public policy. that is what is happening to the and it's happening not only in the united states but in places like mexico city. so, there is a very interesting connection between all of these issues playing out where the city's become the new high of seven of asian, cultural diversity in creative industries and of the mortalities. >> you were famously a very strong libertarian. so how do you feel

bloomberg not a happy man. we're going to be talking about that. also, mikenicle here to talk about whitey bulger and the conviction in boston. wow, that's really something too. willie geist, you know, there are s,

that is the bloomberg business report from new york. >> in california it is 5:17. mike? >> good morning. we will see if we will see some sunshine. well walk through the forecast starting with the visibility out there. we do not have any fog but we have a lot of low cloud cover this morning but no fog. we will have flight arrival delays into sfo. san jose shows it will be the back drop for our forecast, highlights are sunny this afternoon, and to the coast we will get sunshine and probably more tomorrow and mild today and warmer tomorrow and the highs drop below average through the weekend. a little bit of a roller coaster. that is going to be the worst thing we have to worry about be not bad, considering we are dodging lightning bolts and fire threats the last 72 hours. los gatos and morgan hill, mid-80's, and most of the santa clara valley in the mid-to-upper 70's and up the peninsula we have a lot of mid-70's and the exception is los altos at 77, and san mateo at 72 and millbrae at 70 and the coast is mid-60's and that will stretch all the way to downtown san francisco

bloomberg business report. >> thank you. >> hopefully marissa mayer will do something about that. and now, mikeea, -- mike nicco, it is gray, right,? >> when you go home, you will be able to enjoy this, which is a joy of the shift if you can stay away is enjoy the afternoon. we have tracked live doppler 7 hd because this is no rainfall, only patchy drizzle loan the coast. but in santa rosa, we are at 1. 1.75 visibility, and half moon bay is five miles visibility usually it is around two or three to be more wide spread. the peninsula shows temperatures at 54 in belmont and foster city and san mateo at 57 and 59 in menlo park and redwood city and palo alto at 60's and the cool spot and woodside at 55, and temperatures in the 50's, and with 60 in mountain view and we have 2359 in fremont and san jose, and 2357 in concord, and oakland and san carlos at 2359, and napa and san francisco at at a 55 degrees. and we have fog lower be on the golden gate bridge behind me. we have brighter and warmer afternoon. late clouds and coastal drizzle is possible. lake clouds means head south if you can and you can

mike pence. here on the set columnist for bloomberg, market carlson, james carville, andy serwer and ed rendell hereth us. >> thanks, joe. >> talk about what you're doing in indiana regarding health care. you believe it can be a blueprint for the rest of the country? >> well, yeah. back in 2008, indiana introduced what we called the healthy indiana plan which is an innovative consumer driven health care plan that allows people just above our traditional medicaid program to have what amounts to individual health savings accounts. it encourages people to participate in preventative medicine. it is extraordinarily popular among the enrollees and we just really believe that this kind of innovation is the natural result of giving states more freedom and more flexibility in a broad range of areas, including health care. it's been a real success here in indiana. >> what's the great innovation and idea from your plan that other states haven't done, that other states would be wise to copy? >> the big idea is that when you give people more ownership, more responsibility over their own health care choices, the

bloomberg? >> one of the major differences i have is in the health area. i believe in many of the things that mike'se but i actually believe we should be educating the public before we ban things. the soda ban for example. while it may seem small, to hme the role of government is not to tell you what to do or not to do but educate you on what's the best thing to do. >> where are you on stop and frisk? >> i am the son of a new york city cop, the brother of a new york city cop. i believe stop, question and frisk is a tool that was given to police officers all around the united states by the supreme court in 1968. when properly used, it can proactively be used to reduce crime. i am a firm believer in continuing the use of stop, question and frisk. we need to educate the public more about what's allowed. we also need to make sure our police officers are trained and retrained as to how to use it. >> interesting, you have the word "question" in there. how do you do the stop and frisk without the slippery slope of getting into profiling people on the street? >> it's all about suspicion. if there's suspicio