mike bray, the owner of hobby works. when you looked at the numbers and the numbers behind the numbers, how did they look to you? >> the there is good news and bad news. the good news as you mentioned is that the economy has been an isn' consistent trend. and we've recovered all the jobs that were lost since the start of the great recession. but the bad news is that the unemployment problem is still very pervasive it's and much worse than the 6.3% unemployment rate would imply. that's how we contemplate that particular stake. stake--statistic. and i don't know them, 7 million people, we have another 7 million people who are working part time because they can't get enough hours at work even though they want more. these are not jobs that will lead to middle class standards of work. >> is that something that seemed about right to you? are you seeing more activity in your line of work? >> you know, absolutely i am. there are a lot of employer who is are starting to get of off the dime and make offers in a way they haven't be

mike bray, the owner of hobby works.n you looked at the numbers and the numbers behind the numbers, how did they look to you? >> the there is good news and bad news. the good news as you mentioned is that the economy has been an isn' consistent trend. and we've recovered all the jobs that were lost since the start of the great recession. but the bad news is that the unemployment problem is still very pervasive it's and much worse than the 6.3% unemployment rate would imply. that's how we contemplate that particular stake. take--statistic. and i don't know them, 7 million people, we have another 7 million people who are working part time because they can't get enough hours at work even though they want more. these are not jobs that will lead to middle class standards of work. >> is that something that seemed about right to you? are you seeing more activity in your line of work? >> you know, absolutely i am. there are a lot of employer who is are starting to get of off the dime and make offers in a way they haven't been. a