with that in regard, we have had meetings with the head of planning, also mike cohen, and a representative from the mayor's office. that his mid going on off and on the past several months. we have come to a point with the assistance of planning that the draft housing element which we agreed could be issued even though was a draft in june to avoid issues, to have redline. the difficulty is that spur, which i happen to think highly of in general, has generally been conceived as far too pro- growth to be healthy enough for the neighborhood characterization, as part of the 2009 housing element. my goal is simple -- to avoid another round of litigation, find a compromise of words, and avoid a citizen's initiative that would trump the work that has been done by so many people find a compromise. the changes that i believe that are referred to as a part of smart growth, just an educated guess, would be putting the words maintained the neighborhood character as opposed to respect neighborhood character, things of that level. just a general statement of policy, there is sufficient concern by at lea