jonathan: mike collins, what are your thoughts on the matter? mike: growth is slowing, maybe about 2.5% this year, maybe high one's next year. it is only slowing trajectory. people who say, is there going to be a recession or not, are missing the point. it is not necessarily a binary outcome. slow growth is bad for highly levered credits. inhave had a big relveevering corporate america, and 1% growth is going to be a really challenging environment for a lot of companies. george: 1% is a little bit lower than our base case. our base case is high ones, 1.7, 1.8. the trend line is concerning. the bond mind is telling you that there are potentially challenges ahead. not a baseline of recession, but certainly a slowdown. jonathan: we are always focused to the sharks closest to the boat. this week, it has been volatile politics in d.c. it is interesting that what has hardly been spoken about is terrible pmi's in europe. we looked at them for five minutes, we moved on. germany confidence numbers were ugly. consumer spending in america was slightly disap

jonathan: mike collins, what are your reactions? slowing, maybe about 2.5% this year, maybe high one's next year. is there going to be a recession or not, are missing the point. it is not necessarily a binary outcome. slow growth is bad for highly levered credits. is going to be a really challenging environment for a lot of companies. 1% is a militant lower than our base case. we think about 1.8. the trend line is concerning. the bond mind is telling you that there are potentially challenges ahead. not a baseline of recession but certainly a slowdown. jonathan: we are always focused to the shargh closest to the boat. this week, it has been volatile politics in d.c. what we have not been talking about are the terrible pmi's in europe. germany confidence numbers were ugly. consumer spending in america was slightly disappointing. altogether, is this still end up appetite out there for duration at these yield levels, with the fundamentals to underpin that, too? >> slowing growth is the fuel for lower growth. there has been some pretty t

mike collins is a wonderful gentleman, very thoughtful, speaking of her future in space, he said, people will go where they are able to go. i think that kind of says it all. it speaks to the human need, the human earning to explore, to find out what is in the next hill, next valley, on the next world. >> host: did he ever expressed regret being the guy who had to drive the ship around the moon while his two friends -- >> guest: he was a constant gentleman and he never complained. of course, he said once or twice in his book, which is the best national autobiography. of course, these were awful males, and everybody wanted to be hired part of the stuff. and you wanted to walk on the moon. but he was a team player. he was happy to be part of the first group. >> host: new york city, joe please go ahead with your question. thank you. good evening, welcome to usc, i'm a proud children alumni and of course, it is special that you're discussing the moon. neil armstrong did his graduate work at usc. so with that, i will ask you, i was pretty upset to learn that there is not a celebration in washi

meeting with buzz aldrin and mike collins who is the command and the return to the nasa administrator say can we go to mars directly? part of the plan and then moved to the moon base first and then the space station but that makes no economic sense that just waste a lot of money here's the point he wants to go to mars why haven't we gone to mars? because since the first moon landing this is how government bureaucracies work and what politics does. there's no way to get away from ite' congressmans and peoe in their district with other priorities this is what happens when the government is involved. they command - - human on the moon they throw a lot of money at it but long-term they cannot commercialize anything includinger space. now let's turn to aviation and space and look at the private sector this is a very interesting story. whereas with space, with aircraft and airlines started a civilian operation like the right brothers and there was a government operation which was military stuff. the civilian operation was run by private people. the government helps for example it would carr

c-span, that was july 19, he met with buzz aldrin who walked on the moon during that first walk and mike collins who was in the command module and during that little money, he turned the nasa administrator and said is there anyway we can go tomars directly ? why did he say that? part of the plan of going back to the moon and on to mars was going to do a moon base verse and then do a lunar gateway, this will be like a space station in lunar orbit, like a gas station for going to mars which makes no economic or, doesn't make any sense. you don't really need to have one of these things, it's just wasting a lot of money so your point, you want to go to mars. the point is this. why have we gone to mars and done some of these other things? since the first moon landing this is our government bureaucracies work and this is what politics does, there's no way to get away from it. if that stuff in their district, other priorities. this is what happens when the government is involved. they can do something like landing men on the moon in april money but in the long term they cannotcommercialize anything inc

mike collins who was in the command module they turn t turno the nasa and administrators say part of the plan of going back to the moon than we are going to do a lunar gateway then it is economic that doesn't make any sense you don't really need to go to one of thes of the thingst just wastes a lot of money. so, here's the point. the. this is what politics does. there's no way to get away from it. you've got congressman in the district and other priorities. this is what happens when the government is involved. they can do something like land a man on the moon or humans on the moon and if they throw a lot of money at it in the long term they cannot commercialize things including space. now, let's turn for a moment to aviation and space and look at the private sector because this is a very interesting story. whereas with space -- well, let's do this. airlines started as a civilian operation, there were the wright brothers and the government operation which was military stuff. the the civilian operations were run by private people. the government in a sense helped. for example the gover

that was july 19 met with buzz aldrin who walked on the moon during that first walk and mike collinsin the command module. and during that ceremony. he turned to the administrator and said, is there anyway we can go to mars directly? >> since the first moon landing, this is how government bureaucracies work and this is what politics does. there's no way to get away from it. this is what happens when the government is involved. they can do something like landing a man on the moon or humans on the loan if they throw a lot of money. but they cannot commercialize pretty much anything, including space. let's turn to the private sector. because this is an interesting story. let me do this - - aircraft and airlines started as a civilian operation. and there was the government operation. military stuff. but the civilian operations were run by private people. the government would carry the mail anyway so they contracted airmail out instead of building government planes. one of those private providers was charles lindbergh who started by flying airmail. it was in this kind of way. for example,

our own nbc news correspondent, mike memo mike, and eliza collins.hough the word gaffes have been kind of retired when we saw what trump was doing was very next level, so it's only kind of a lazy journalism thing to use the word no matter how many missteps he thanks. >> i want to thank our friends at the trump campaign for including me a lot my friends and family who watch more fox news, have been reaching out if you remember the conversation we were having the night of the debate, this conversation about biden's gaffes, his performance on the trail has primarily been one that's quiet among his rivals for the most part it's been a delicate conversation and what you see with the trump campaign doing tonight is a very effective strategy they employed in 2016 as well, which is to look for those vulnerabilities among democrats with hillary clinton, and try to magnify them. they are trying to put a megaphone to the conversations the biden campaign is not responding today but what they are repeating is that this is not, you know, the negative coverage and

our own nbc news correspondent mike memly and eliza collins joins us once again, politics reporter for "the wall street journal. mike, how will the biden campaign respond to this latest attack that just, as i said, goes there on age even though the word gaffes have been kind of retired when we saw what trump was doing was very next-level so it's only kind of an f8 key lazy journalism thing to use the word no matter how many missteps he makes. >> first i want to thank our friends at the trump campaign for including me a lot of my friends and family who watch more fox news than msnbc have been reaching out if you remember that conversation we were having that night of the debate, i also pointed out this conversation about biden's gaffes, his performance on the trail, has primarily been one that's quiet among his rivals for the most part it's been a delegate conversation what you see the trump campaign doing tonight is a very effective strategy that they employed in 2016 as well, which is to look for those vulnerabilities among democrats with hillary clinton and try to magnify them so tha

susan collins, mitt romney, mike lee, brandon, question the president's authority to use nearly 4 billionrs to build a border wall. now, romney and collins and lee fancy themselves smart folks. how could smart folks not be aware that every administration in the recent era has actually had to reprogram funding and has done so and that under a national emergency, which this president declared, in february, it's absolutely essential to respond, and that is what he's doing. >> yeah, this is one of the things that is so disappointing to me, to see republicans fighting against other republicans, instead of standing behind this administration and working with this administration, to do what's right for the american public. instead, romney and lee, senators romney and lee, what they are doing is they are looking out for their own state, rather than the well being of the entire united states. we've got behind -- the democrats they all vote in blocks, you always see that, yet republicans are constantly infighting which is why it's so hard to get -- lou: romney is a bitter loser for the 2012 electio

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you have this kind of upheaval -- i mean, we heard last week from our reporting from kaitlan collins that mike pompeo and john bolton were not even on speaking terms. so that's not a con do you sduc working environment to pushing any agenda whether you agree with it or not. what does it mean when there is this kind of conflict for making decisions about foreign policy? >> you know, it's another day in the white house. this is very consistent, where there is chaos everywhere within the administration. and unless you want to be a political thug to the president, you have a very short life span in that position, whatever that position may be. so we have lost sight of the fact that these positions are supposed to be serving the american people and not be foot soldiers for the president of the united states. >> all right, congresswoman, if you will stay with us, i'm going to get in a quick break, but we have a lot more to talk to you about, including this next story. actually, no, i want to ask you about a new story that we have just reported, which is some new details. a russian spying for the uni

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secretary of state, something he hopes if mike pompeo does run for that senate seat he could take that job, brianna. >> just loads of palace intrigue there. kaitlin collins bring in global affairs analyst and staff writer for "the new yorker" susan glasser with me. you reascently did this excelle profile on mike pompeo so it might not be a surprise to you that there's this rift. what is the effect of this? these are people in charge of foreign policy for the country. >> that's right. really good reporting by kaitlin there and it does confirm what i was hearing and that was that they were not even on speaking terms, the national security advisor and the secretary of state, that they were communicating through intermediaries and essentially only interacting in highly formal meeting settings. to the point of what does it mean, what does it matter? it suggests that an already dysfunctional system has been tested to the point and beyond breaking. obviously president trump himself is not really a kind of regular order structured meeting guy. so now to have the people who might be bringing that to him in conflict with each other as opposed to at least presentin

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then we will hear exclusively from ranking member doug collins along with committee member mike turnere two are weighing in on the impeachment push, the ukraine controversy and whether there's a chance for bipartisanship on legislative issues that matter to the american people. also with us this morning, a former attorney general, michael mukasey is here. he will join us on speaker pelosi's claims that attorney general barr has, quote, won rogue. then -- gone rogue. then a very rare and unique interview on the tensions between the u.s. and iran. right now, right here, "sunday morning futures." ♪ ♪ maria: as democrats accelerate their impeachment inquiry, we are getting new reaction this morning from the two people squaring off at the center of it all, president trump and house speaker nancy pelosi. the president put out a video message on twitter arguing that the whole thing is politically motivated. watch. >> greatest scam in the history of american politics. the democrats want to take away your guns, they want to take away your health care, they want to take away your vote, they want

trump is impeached, it goes to the senate and get a mitt romney or mike lee voting to convict trump it will make it difficult for susan collinsnd she's up for re-election and you could cross-pressure republican senators who cost the republicans the senate. >> they're not likely to get to the two-thirds vote that they need. paul: if you get five, six, seven republicans voting to convict and a majority above 50 in the senate you could put pressure on those candidates. >> that's a conversation for mitch mcconnell to have with the four senators and decide whether they need to make that vote to survive. paul: what do you think about that scenario? >> i think it's unlikely that you get those numbers. we've had some people like mitt romney come out and be very critical but the majority of the caucus is not there and i think there's a similar risk to some democratic senators from having to take this vote as well too. paul: all right. thank you all. when we come back, as world leaders gather at the united nations, america's western allies call for a renegotiation of the iran nuclear deal. so is europe's turn a vindication for presiden

collins, many. our senior con gregs achl correspondent manu raj. >> they just put out the statement to mike pompeo saying he must put out a letter to attorneys of the ukraine conversation or they'll subpoena those documents. just last week saying he did discuss the bidens with ukraine officials. republican senators have been w wary about criticizing this president. i spoke to chuck grassley about the concerns being raised, about the whistleblower. grassley has long advocated for whistleblower protections, and i questioned the accuracy of this whi whistleblower? it's also being said this whistleblower may have been involved in treasonous activity. >> since i know a lot of whistleblowers, i suggest the whistleblower come and talk to me. >> is that an appropriate use of office, do you think? >> would you maybe, through your news media, you can -- i think we'll go up here. through the news media, maybe you can get the whistleblower ploer norks r any contact with the president not call it contact in any way. one democratic senator wants a bipartisan investigation on his committee to look into the matter. >> t

mike pompeo's job as secretary of state. his aides did not push back on that, john. >> kaitlan collins, come back to us with reporting throughout the hour. let's go to kylie at the state house. kaitlan just mentioned the secretary of state and the national security adviser were supposed to be side by side today. and b, also mentioned as part of that, the long-running tensions between the two of them. >> reporter: that's right, so even though these two leaders in trump's national security team are idealogically aligned, secretary of state mike pompeo and national security adviser who is now leaving the administration, john bolton, there has been simmering tensions as kaitlan referenced between the two for months now. we have reported on that extensively. we know that there has been instances in which national security adviser john bolton has actually asked for intelligence on north korea, which is an issue that secretary pompeo had owned and not shared that intelligence with pompeo, using it as leverage in conversations when he is speaking with president trump to try and push forward his agenda. now, we know national security ad

republican senators mike lee and mitt romney from utah and susan collins from maine all oppose the move in david jackson, white house reporter for "usa today." so, david, of the lawmakers against the transfer of funds, what are they saying about it, and what's the significance of who is complaining? >> well, a lot of conservative republicans are complaining, and they're pushing the sentiments of a lot of mainline republicans who don't want to speak out. their main concern is by taking money from pentagon projects and using it to build the wall, they're giving democrats a chance to say that the president undermined national security in order to build the wall that a lot of people don't think will be effective. arthel: how big of a problem is this for president trump? >> it depends on how many voters can be persuaded. democrats, i think, are going to try to use this to make the argument that i just did, that he's undermining national security to build his precious wall. and i think they're going to be trying to make that argument in conservative states where there's a huge military presen

welcome to the chairman collin peterson and my texas ranking member mike conaway. this is coming at a important time for farmers. the usda and the food conservation area, and the farm agency is in the middle of a huge job. the fpac and other needs of farmers and ranchers and rural communities that is meant to assist the farmer most harmed by the administration's trade war and the expanded wildfire and indemnity program or w.h.i.p. plus to aid in rural recovery of natural disasters and plc and dmc and other supports within the title i of the farm bill to provide a risk management for farmers and ranchers. it is the job on this committee to ensure that the programs are structured and implemented in a way to be quickly, and efficiently and most directly serve the farmers and the ranchers and the small towns that need them right now. it is also our job to ensure that the programs are implemented in a way that is fair, transparent and consistent with the law. we can absolutely get farmers the help they need while still conducting appropriate and necessary oversight. i h

mike rounds, south dakota. let the committee investigate. senator joni ernst, going to have to dig into it. senator susan collins, obviously, a lot of questions. >> yeah, i saw that. >> are these the kind of responses -- >> we don't want to be attacking collins, because she's the one who stood up when they were trying to kill health care for 21 million americans. but for these other people to not have a comment about that transcript to me is absurd. what the president did is he called a foreign leader and asked him to do something that was totally completely inappropriate. excuse me, alisyn. totally and completely inappropriate, to say, we need more information. i'm surprised at lamar. i love lamar. a great guy, former governor, senator, all of this, to say, well -- you've got to have a comment on this. this is not right. if you whistle past the graveyard on here, you also set a precedent by ignoring something that is extremely serious. i have had one person close to me say, look, he asked somebody to do something that was wrong, there should be punishment for it. if you can't say that, you can't say that the pr

kaitlan collins is in north carolina, getting ready for the president there, give us the details. any staff members for the president. the vice president, mike pennsylvania john bolton, neither wanted to see the taliban at camp david. >> reporter: the white house is facing backlash, the idea that they were planning on hosting the leaders of the taliban at camp david, you're seeing push back from people like liz cheney, several other republicans as well, but some of that resistance was also coming from inside the white house, including from the vice president mike pence who advised the president he didn't think it was a good idea to host them on u.s. soil the week of the 9/11 anniversary. the national security adviser also pushed back on the venue location, but we should note that as a lot of this planning was going on, they were overseas, and the national security adviser was also not in washington as these discussions were going on. the president announced they scrapped them. it was the president himself who pushed for the meeting to be in camp david and for the meeting to happen at all. that came after a meeting the president had with his

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collins in maine in what could be a struggling reelection. go ahead, john. >> lawrence, i was going to say i agree with everything mike said. one other way democrats could screw this up, not just in terms of who they nominate, but how do they handle these impeachment hearings. one of the most interesting debates i hear right now is the strategic question, do you as you proceed towards this impeachment inquiry, do you make it an omnibus thing where it's not just about this ukrainian scandal, but it's also about the obstruction of justice from the mueller investigation, about the hush money payments in the southern district of new york, about emoluments, about everything donald trump has done wrong? or do you try to remain focused in a laser-like way on this particular sin, on this particular crime, on this particular dereliction of duty? i think the smart -- it sounds to me increasingly the smart argument is the one that says let's just stay focused on this one thing. don't load up the sled. don't overload the sled. there are going to be people on the left who will want to take on all of donald trump's crimes. the smarter pl