i was 5' away when he fired, nance reagan almost immediately after going to the hospital called mike deaver their friend from hollywood assistant chief staff and said, that must never happen again. you see to it. and he did. before that occurred, we would walk into the white house show our card, or whatever at the gate and suddenly the machines appeared, rightly so, the security got a lot tighter and other than beverly during the 1984 campaign to the best of my knowledge and chris can back me up on this, ronald reagan never appeared where the public was that had not been vetted or secured by the secret service procedures and the machines that you walk through. she cared about him in those ways and of course when it came to his political security george has talked about the 1980 campaign and also we have talked about firing donald regan the chief of staff after he hung up with her and she thought it he was bad for ronald reagan during the iran and contra affair and ronald reagan was under great pressure, rightly so, because of the conduct of his administration. of course, history is still ar

she shared it with mike deaver. but there were a few of us that she was willing to confide in because she knew that we were on her husband's agenda and not our own agenda and we could help make her husband that much more effective. >> ken duberstein, thank you so much. thanks for being with us today. >> thank you. thanks. >>> coming up, the latest from the 2016 campaign. the fallout from last night's big democratic debate. the fireworks in flint, michigan. any moment now donald trump is holing a campaign rally in concord, north carolina weather the republican test tightening up. i'm billy, and i quit smoking with chantix. i decided to take chantix to shut everybody else up about me quitting smoking. i was going to give it a try, but i didn't really think it was going to really happen. after one week of chantix, i knew i could quit. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix definitely helped reduce my urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood,

and we got to the hospital, and mike deaver met me at the hospital and said he has been shot. and there were police all around, and a lot of noise, and they put me in a little small room. there was one desk and one chair. that was it. and i kept wanting to see ronnie. and they kept saying, "well, he's all right, but you can't see him." and i kept saying, "well, if he's all right, why can't i see him?" and, finally, they let me see him. he was lying there with that thing on his face to help him breathe. and he lifted it up, and that's when he said, "honey, i forgot to duck." (end video clip) susan swain: how did this assassination attempt change a brand-new presidency? judy woodruff: and by the way, i was there the day that ronald reagan was shot. i was a part of the press pool that day. it was, of course, a time when -- i'll never, ever forget. it made her much more protective. she was already completely focused on him and his safety, but after this, it was her -- you could argue her sole focus. i mean, she -- i think at one point she said something like, when he left to go so

reagan, mike deaver took me to lunch prior to the interview, and she said, don't forget, when you go upstairs, ronald reagan would not be president, were it not for nancy reagan. and her friendships made in the carpool line of her kid's school led to the kitchen cabinet, which led to his great support for running for president. and i think it also helped him very much in governing. he had great friendships with the g-7 and the g-8 leaders. i mean, really good friendships. not just meet once a year friendships. he and brian mullroney traded irish limmerics all the time. he supported them during a very difficult time and of course the legendary friendship with thatcher. these were friendships when the cruise michelssile debate and everything else was taking place, these friendships really mattered, and that's what she was really about, she knew how to -- she knew the art of friendship and she used it through the art of entertaining, and she never lost sight of reaching out to people who were not only friends but also foes, and bringing them into the white house. >> boy, isn't that a gr

i think if you have read mike deavers' book or others, people did not cross nancy reagan. and i think that she enjoyed that reputation. it was well earned. and i think they were very much of a team. she enjoyed being that team. and i think she felt that she wanted to support whatever he did, but she was also, i think, proud of her just say no to drugs campaign. and i think she was always proud of her work on stem cell and alzheimer's. as i said, we spoke a lot about that since we were both very committed to it. and i think that will be one part of her legacy. >> absolutely. our friend here at nbc news, maria shriver. thank you for calling in despite being under the weather. do get better soon. thank you, maria. once again, joined by the moderator of nbc's "meet the press," chuck todd. you talked about there will be some sort of a remembrance of her life. do you know how large that could get? given the largesse she leaves behind, influencing the republican party and politics in general. the end of an era truly. >> it really is an end of an era when is sort of the part two o

it was nancy reagan who managed to persuade him to pick jim baker and mike deaver to run the white house rather than ed meese. that had a profound impact on the tone and the agenda of the reagan first term. second term donald regan took over as white house chief of staff, he crossed swords with nancy reagan, big mistake. she got rid of him within a year or so. but the most substantive was she wanted ronnie, as she called him, to be a peacemaker and establish better ties with mikhail gorbachev. she worked with george schultz, there were probably scores of telephone conversations. my wife did a marvelous documentary for hbo which captured that. she played a huge role again in getting rid of bill clark. just a final story i'll tell you, willie. she never lost her interest in politics and as i said, my wife judy woodruff did a big documentary on her. they used to talk from time to time. and on a train in 2008, judy tried to call mrs. reagan unsuccessfully. mrs. reagan called back after the republican convention, the first thing she said was "why did john pick that woman as his running mate?"

jim baker and nancy forced an incredibly close relationship with mike deaver, her longtime friend.d administration, my wife did a long documentary on nancy reagan which was fascinating and was able to report that she had scores of phone calls with george schultz in 1985, 86, 19 87 as they were trying to maneuver around the hardline national security advisor which they dumped. that was to influence her husband on dealings with the soviet union. the sand the start arms control treaty. that piece that judy did what's -- which was come from entry nancy did not like. she said it made her look more influential and that made ronnie look less. mark: don reagan wrote about her in negative ways in the tell-all book and that contributed to some of the negative perception that people had. do you think those issues were related to have tough she was, she was very tough lady. al: she was not a good mother. patty davis was moving. she was devoted to ronald reagan and anything that got in the way was a distraction. she had lavish tastes that were embarrassing for the white house. she was not perfe

and when i got to the white house, i came in there and mike deaver left, although he was much closer to the president than i was and certainly to the first lady as he had been taking her calls. and don regan had become chief of staff. he called me in one time and said the lady is calling me several times every day. so she took a real interest in what her husband was doing and what kinds of decisions were being made. >> so to that point, was the president's white house staff quite aware of mrs. reagan's influence on the president? >> well, i was aware, and certainly don regan was aware to the point that she felt it was almost a distraction to him how often she called. i'm sure when he was there, she had an old friend who she talked with regularly, and so she dealt with issues of presentation and the communications strategy, but also the issues strategy. i was also at reykjavik when that summit blew up. we drove that long hour drive to get air force one, and the president of the united states said he was going to be delighted to get home to nancy even though he had missed dinner. >> ab

and so mike deaver said if he was the teflon president she was the flypaper first lady. and at the end of the first year in office, she was one of the most unpopular first ladies in modern history. and by the end of her eight years in the white house, she had successfully reinvented herself and her image. but it was what she was willing to sacrifice in terms of her own standing in order to serve as the champion and protector and guardian of her husband was remarkable. charlie: but most of all, it was a great love story. a great love story. and she -- they were best friends. i mean, it was their company that each wanted the most. colin powell told a story this morning that when she would travel to new york to see her friends, if she was away for more than a day or two, he would get a little bit off kilter. >> he missed her. you see it in the letters he wrote. where he would say, when you walk out of the room, i feel lost. it was -- he was just extraordinary. the way that they were able to be this little unit within the most visible imaginable -- charlie: the biggest fish

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and we got to the hospital, and mike deaver met me at the hospital and said he has been shot.ere police all around, and a lot of noise, and they put me in a little small room. there was one desk and one chair. that was it. and i kept wanting to see ronnie. and they kept saying, "well, he's all right, but you can't see him." and i kept saying, "well, if he's all right, why can't i see him?" and, finally, they let me see him. he was lying there with that thing on his face to help him breathe. and he lifted it up, and that's when he said, "honey, i forgot to duck." [end video clip] susan swain: how did this assassination attempt change a brand-new presidency? judy woodruff: and by the way, i was there the day that ronald reagan was shot. i was a part of the press pool that day. it was, of course, a time when -- i'll never, ever forget. it made her much more protective. she was already completely focused on him and his safety, but after this, it was her -- you could argue her sole focus. i mean, she -- i think at one point she said something like, when he left to go somewhere, she

she just understood his -- she and michael deaver, especially michael, almost a son to them. and mike was there as -- along with the triumphant jim bakker. he and nancy talked all the time. she looked to him and they sort of figured out together, how do we make sure we take -- we get the best out of this, allow him to have his best, not overburden him? he was along in years and you want to reserve his reservoirs of strength for big things not the trivial things that come across a president's desk. >> stand by for a moment, david. jeffrey lorde, the former reagan white house political director, is joining us as well. >> sure. >> jeffrey, you knew nancy reagan and also knew the former, late president of the united states. what goes through your mind at this moment? >> you know, listening to david -- wolf, i was a young associate director of political affairs. some of the things -- i would see her mostly at public events and that sort of thing. two instances stand out. on one occasion in the fall of 1986, a pretty hard-fought presidential campaign, those of us in the white house politica