mike dempsey is in charge of all juvenile services for interest indiana department of correction. >>t's a complicated issue. and just because of the fact that they are still juveniles. so they're still young. in mind and body and spirit and everything. and yet they have committed some pretty serious crimes against society. the natural reaction, particularly for a kid who is going into an environment like that, they learn survival skills. and it's not a positive learning environment either. >> you just got to basically rely on somebody in here that you can halfway trust, because you don't trust anybody in here, nobody. other than that, you're on your own. >> we're standing by whenever you're clear. >> for 15-year-old kids coming in that have 30 years to do, i would tell them what the guys told me when i came in. users and abusers are all over this place. >> 32-year-old inmate greg knows what it's like to be a young kid serving hard time. at the age of 15, he was convicted for the murder of both of his parents. he became the youngest person in indiana history to be sentenced an adult.

. >> superintendent mike dempsey is in charge of keeping staff safe while rehabilitating and educating even the most the challenging teen offenders. >> juveniles are much more challenges and frustrating on a daily basis. >> when i walk away, that's it. so you choose for me to walk away? okay. >> they have a thought or an emotion and they will act on it immediately. and most times you can't, you don't ever see it coming. >> after he refused to come to the door and cuff up so we could get him out, we had to gather together an extraction team to get into his room so he wouldn't hurt himself. >> are you ready to cuff up? no. >> this generation of juveniles, they're a lot more reckless. they're probably ten times more reckless than an adult offender. they explode. they have their aggression moments. they're fighting and it's over. and then they -- they'll even apologize. all within a three-minute period. >> while cell extractions at pendleton are rare the procedure is used in extreme circumstances to guarantee the safety of offenders and staff. >> everybody's in good shape. nobody's hurt. >

mike we're going to pause because this is the moment of silence from the pentagon. >> okay. >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempseymike, one of the things i want you to comment on as we prepare to listen to the secretary of defense, chuck hagel who has been a very active player in the leadup to the situation in afghanistan -- excuse me -- in the situation in syria, is this issue of whether or not history allows a president to reset. and you remember the build up to the war in iraq. there were the weapons inspectors who were overseas that said they needed more time, and yet, we were hearing all of the talk about shock and awe, and we would be greeted as liberators in iraq, and that war began, and history has weighed in on whether that was a good thing or a bad thing. it appears that the white house has waited for diplomacy for the debate to take place and congress to get involved. is that a good thing or a bad thing? >> well, i'm hesitant to make a judge inspect that regard, dell, standing here in my role. but obviously the president has -- has said -- to use a phrase -- wrapped himself in the constitution. he does

very interesting to pay attention to what general dempsey has to say. mike, what should we expect from this hearing this afternoon? >> jenna, bob minendez said inaction in syria would have huge consequences and he believes after a lot of debate and arguing that the senate will authorize the use of military force in syria. the chairman of the foreign relations committee that gets the administration officials later this afternoon offered us a bit of a preview earlier today. >> well, i believe when we hear from secretary kerry, secretary hagel of the defense and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff that what we'll hear, hopefully, is number one the full case for the use of force and what that campaign will look like in broad terms, especially as it relates to the end result. >> ahead of that, of course, at this hour, we know that lawmakers from both the house and senate who have current ever returned from their districts are going behind closed doors to get the classified information about what the u.s. intelligence community knows about what happened in s

dempsey the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. the president deciding at the last minute to throw it to congress, which, incidentally, doesn't return for more than a week, joey. >> mikethink about this. in washington everything is always about the optics, the scenery, what has the white house done to pr try to position itself as not being upset or nervous by what has happened? >> the optics are what the go the press to this position to begin with, joey. you remember it was a year ago this month when the president talked about a red line and warned of consequences and said it would be a game changer in ba shar assad were to delight chemical weapons. we learned yesterday that administration and intelligent sources believe he has done so on, quote, multiple times over the course of the last year. including on august 21st, the president laid down that red line. then he started using the phrase it, core national interest. as if the -- and elaborating many times as did john kerry as to what that phrase meant. not just a threat to the united states, but ba shar assad could somehow launch chemical weapon on his the mainland in the united states. but siting the allies, turkey

dempsey testifying. we've been hearing about number of syria proposals from representatives. the hill writes about congressman mikef kansas who said he's part of the resolution. in an interview, he said he favors language that would ensure the obama administration takes specific military action that helps the syrian rebels. the story goes ton say that -- the house will adopt the own language and possibly force the senate to consider language that is different from its own resolution. here is some of the house hearing on the likelihood that syria bashar assad will use them good. >> if we do nothing, what is the likelihood, in your judgment, that bashar al-assad will use chemical weapons as a routine weapon to turn the likelihood of the civil war. >> i think the likelihood is very high that he would use them again. >> mr. speaker, i agree completely. i might even put it at 100%. you should project the intel on it. i would say probably 100%. >> mr. secretary, if you like, it's 100 percent, we will see these weapons now used routinely in this civil war to turn the tide if we do nothing, what is the probability that su