mike dorling taught us all the details. were know the topics discussed.ade and of course, for apple it's important to have open trade especially with asia and president trump wants more limited fair trade. but the white house and apple haven't told us much about what was said. we know that cook met with the president in the oval office and we know he also met with the president's chief economic advisor, larry kudlow, and he also had a meeting and the office of the u.s. trade representative. clearly very focused on trade. emily: obviously the president decided to pursuit tariffs on chinese goods, which could disproportionately hurt apple given how many of its products are manufactured in china. do you think there is any chance tim cook could influence the president in the opposite direction? >> i think there's a real chance it has some influence on the president, maybe not enough to persuade him on other things, but he does listen to and admire successful ceo's, maybe more so than academics or other politicians. so he does value those people's opinions and