. >> read mike friedman, thank you so much. we will take it would break and come back to mosaic in just a moment. >>> good morning and welcome back to mosaic, i'm rabbi eric weiss, i'm honored to be your house. we are in the middle of a conversation with rabbi pam frydman, the rabbi at congregation -- and current president of the board of directors of the northern california board of rabbis. combat, rabbi frydman. >> thank you so much rabbi weiss. >> we were talking about the role of rabbis at large in the context of representing the northern california board of rabbis. one of the things that is interesting that people don't know about is the northern california board of rabbis is very much noted for its legality in part, because it doesn't necessarily take official stance on issues that might actually cause internal friction among the members. rather, we make a decision to be collegial and support each other in stances that we take out in the community whether it is an issue around same-sex marriage or issues around conversion