congressman mike gallagher, we appreciate your time >> thank you >> kayla tausche thank you with mikegher obviously, a ban on tiktok is all the focus here, especially when it comes to shares of meta and snap we've seen those shares outperform yesterday, in particular, they outperformed the nasdaq as well as their peers. the big-cap tech companies going into that 7:00 p.m. hearing, carl the big question is, are we finally at the point that we've got this bipartisan moment where everybody wants to do something about tiktok, although nobody wants to be the party that bans tiktok >> whether we can do it in a coordinated fashion around the world. meantime, we continue to trade a lot with china and it is the engine of global growth to a large degree the data that we got last night is a huge reason why we opened the way we did the fxi is still up 3% it's not as if we want a complete decoupling and how to do that surgically is incredibly difficult. >>> let's get a news update. contessa brewer has got that for us >> hi, carl. president biden is calling eli lilly's move to cut insulin prices hu

setting up the ccp and the communist party select committee in the house chaired by mike gallagher.i think we have strong bipartisan support to work with the biden administration to make sure that we have the right strategy to counter china's economic diplomatic and most importantly military station of their whole government outlook. >> the president is considering dealing with investment of american companies in china. some will say that is not enough. you have to do a lot more to block what beijing is doing. >> well, i do agree with that. just last week the service committee passed on taiwan deterrence act which shows if the people's republic of china, the chinese communist party threatens taiwan militarily in an aggressive manner, we will publish all the financial assets and translates those into mandarin to the members, leadership. we will ban their families from traveling. we will make it known that we will deter china's aggressive action across the taiwan strait. but you are right. it has to be technology and our diplomacy and economic power. i am just back from meetings on th

host: mike gallagher, the chairman of that new committee, the select committee on china. it was a hearing last night held in prime time. we will show you more clips from the hearing through this first hour of the washington journal. we mostly want to hear what you think about the focus of the hearing. did you watch? what did you think about those who testified and the members of congress as well? republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. plenty of measures moving through capitol hill when it comes to the issue of china. one of them is a house committee set to take up legislation that would effectively ban tiktok, but hurdles likely lay ahead for the measure even if it wins preliminary approval. the bill would effectively block u.s. interactions with the popular chinese owned video sharing app, according to a draft version viewed by the wall street journal. the data act was expected to be taken up by the house foreign affairs committee. the draft calls for the treasury secretary to issue a directive prohibiting u.s. transactions

republican chairman mike gallagher and ranking democrat. that's coming up at the bottom of this hour. >> john: looking forward to that. the trump grand jury in new york city set to return at noon today. the panel will reconvene after alvin bragg called off yesterday's session at the last minute. prosecutors could call an additional witness or present formal charges for the jurors to vote on. bryan llenas is outside the courthouse with the latest. bryan. >> good morning. the grand jury reconvenes this afternoon amid speculation over why yesterday's proceeding was abruptly canceled by manhattan district attorney alvin bragg under intense political pressure to drop this case. new letters sent from republican jim jordan have been sent demanding documents and congressional testimonies from mark palm rains and carey dune who resigned from his office last year. they were both investigating trump for financial crimes but resigned in protest after bragg expressed doubts about the investigation and refused to prosecute trump. one went on to write a b

. >> reporter: mike gallagher and elaine luria served on the house armed services committee in the lastout the u.s. navy to cause the two of you to find the common cause. >> we share a sense of the urgency of the moment. we see increasing threats from china in particular in the indo-pacific. we feel like we're not moving fast enough to build a bigger navy. >> reporter: congressman gallagher is a marine veteran who represents green bay, wisconsin. he chairs the new house committee on china. he's concerned that under the navy's current plan, the fleet will shrink to 280 ships by 2027, the same year the cia says china has set for having the capability to take taiwan by force. >> we'll be weakest when our enemy is potentially strongest. >> china, we have to be ready to respond today with the forces we have today. >> reporter: former congresswoman elaine luria represented virginia beach until this past january. an annapolis graduate, she had a 20-year naval career before being elected to congress. >> what would you say the state of the u.s. navy is today? >> i think the navy has not received

the committee chair mike gallagher talked about the stakes of the u.s. competition with china. >> we my call this a strategic competition, but it is not a polite tennis match. this is an existential struggle over what life will look like in the 21st century. and the most fundamental freedoms are at stake. >> with us now to talk about this, nbc news senior capitol hill garrett haake, tom winter and peter baker, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times" and msnbc political analyst. so, garrett, what are the biggest takeaways from last night's hearing? >> reporter: jose, last night's hearing was a fascinating overview of the broader strategic landscape between the united states and china. and the point that chairman gallagher tried to make both in the hearing and in interviews before and after was that this isn't some theoretical discussion about some future threat. this is a hear and now problem, whether you're concerned about surveillance, hard military power, industrial capacity, the future of taiwan, you name it, there is a nexus of compe

and that's part of the way chairman mike gallagher has run this committee. although it was prime time, there was no fireworks between members. it was really meant to march in lock step building this narrative against china on a whole range of issues that you played in your introduction. that's going to be really important, because if we're looking for the bright spots where things could actually legislatively get done this congress, this committee is definitely one of them. and look, the conversation i have with gallagher is that his committee's work is going to run straight and directly through the burgeoning republican primary in 2024 where there is divergence on this issue specifically when it begins to relate to ukraine and russia and the ongoing battle there. this is something where in recent weeks florida governor ron desantis, for example, has down-played the role of russia there, down-played the strength of russia. you saw in this hearing and he said this to him he believes he views russia and china as linked and he'll talk about them as such during

mike gallagher of wisconsin talked about economic conces is security concerns. i want to play a little bit of what he had to say. [video clip] >> we may call this a strategic competition but it is not a polite tennis match. this is an accidental struggle over what life will look like in the 21st-century and fundamental freedoms are at stake. for the time being it is up to uso decide if that is the future we want for our children but it will be for much longer. time is not on our side. just because this congress is divided, we cannot afford to waste the next two years lingering andegislative limbo are pandering to the press. we must act with a sense of urgency. i believe our policy over the next 10 years will set the stage for the next 100. we cannot allow the ccp tech dystopia to prevail. we must learn from our mistakes. we tried to win the ccp over with economic engagement that would lead to reforms ichina. it did not work out. the ccp laughed at our naivete as they took advantage of our good faith. that era of wishful thinking is over. we will not allow the cc

. >> mike gallagher. >> mike gallagher. they're doing it right.derstand the threat coming from china and really seem to be doing it right. we can do two things at once, right, david? >> so i think that puts it exactly right. mike gallagher is an outstanding legislator. he is leading a genuine bipartisan effort. the one thing you find agreement among republicans and democrats in washington about these days is china. china is becoming an increasing competitive threat. got that. as you say, i think that's a good i worry that in the clima where bashing china is the best politics there is, the president may be checked from doing what's necessary at a time when the u.s./china relationship really is deterioraing in ways that are harmful to our country, also china, but we worry about the united states. i was struck when biden made his now famous trip to kyiv, about what he really represents in the public mind, in the united states and around the world. he is this mature, statesmanlike person, who has the courage to go to a place that's under fire, and do

congressman mike gallagher, congressman raja krishnamoorthi, both of you. thank you very much for joining us. thank you so much. and we invited tiktok onto the program tonight, but they declined. they did, however, provide this statement. they said the tiktok has taken unprecedented actions to address the national security concerns by securing us user data on u. s soil. the best way to address concerns about national security is with the transparent us based protection of us user data and systems with robust third party monitoring, vetting and verification, which we were already implementing. building trust with our diverse and vibrant community is critical to achieving our mission to inspire creativity and bring joy. we will continue working to build a safe and secure and innovative platform for our one billion strong community and up next for us. it is not just fun videos. a lot of people rely on this platform to make a living, including our next guest, who will make a strong case against banning tiktok. the real life impact band could have on them coming

republican congressman mike gallagher said it is now more likely congress will ban or force tiktok toart ways with its chinese parent company of actually united republicans and democrats out of a concern of allowing the ccp. >> to control the most dominant media platform in america. so far the white house is stopping short of endorsing an outright ban pending a federal review of the app. we don't want to get ahead of this review on cbs's face the nation. national security council spokesman john kirby said the white house remains concerned about tiktok national security threat. right now the administration is backing a bill that would give the president new authority to ban the app if further risk are identified. >> and last week we saw tiktok federal ban. many of those creators arguing that a ban would impact their finances in livelihood. but that message doesn't seem to be deterring lawmakers who in response say they believe another app could fill that gap. for now in washington, raquel martin, back to you guys. all right, raquel, thank you very much. >> it is 4.22, we're going to ta

. >> mike gallagher described this existential struggle, is that rhetoric? >> that is the reality, it's not a struggle that we are calling for it, it's a struggle that the president of united states president biden and secretary state made clear they don't wane competition with china and we as a nation want to see competition, we don't want conflict. that being said the chinese government in our country, they are threatening taiwan conducting -- engaging bad behavior and now a potential enemy supply as i run has already been, it's a significant problem and even though we try to convince them, it's better to work together economically they continue to threaten american allies and around the globe. >> what you described together, what does it mean for the administration not only the specifics on those fronts but overall relationship china has with the united states? >> it's a real challenge. part of it is we will have to at some level disconnect our economy. in a large sense it is impossible. it doesn't matter that much of we buy cheap goods in the form of clo

host: the chair of the select committee on china mike gallagher. we covered it on our website, www.c-span.org you can follow along their with points of interest as well as our other coverage from this week. what is your top news story, illinois, independent. caller: i think the main trouble with our country and we see all the things going on around the world is that there is good and evil in this world and people is predominating in many places. we see it across the ocean and we are starting to see it in this country where it didn't used to exist. the men who wrote our constitution were godly and they set the bill of rights. godly men in 1789 said we will take this king james bible and it will be taught as part of the curriculum and all the public schools across this country. my parents went to college back in the 1940's and they still had convocation every morning and every student on a college campus had to be there. we have left that. we hear this lie, the big lie that you cannot have religion in public schools. that's the big lie. we are losing

the chinese people is about the communist party and their bad behavior at home and abroad.in >> mike gallagher described this existential struggle. is that rhetoric or is it rareality? >> unfortunately this reality. it's not a struggle that we were calling for, to struggle to the present of the night saveded mae clear, they want to see competition with china but we as a nation want to see competition with china and we don't want comfort. that being said they are threatening taiwan and engaging bad behavior around the world. there's no of potential to help russia and iran produces a significant problem and even though we try to convince them it's better to collaborate and work together economically they continue to threaten americanth allies around the globe. >> youd you you describe the things altogether but what does that mean for the administration to try to handle not only specifics but the overall relationship that china has the guide states? >> it's a real challenge.t: parvus the notion that hits our economy is impossible if the reality is it doesn't matter that much if we buy goods in th

i have got to thank our chairman mike gallagher tremendous job to serve on the task force. to serve on the task force. i think this committee is probably the most important committee or one of the most important committees of this particular congress. we need to wake the world up to what the threat of the communist chinese party and the threat that it poses to us not only in the united states but to freedom around the world. it was a great opening act and we have a lot more work to do in the years ahead. >> todd: your questioning during that testimony was important. chinese human rights activist her testimony also hit home. listen. >> we need to face the fact that we have helped to feed the baby dragon of the ccp since the 1990s u.s. companies have enriched themselves by exploiting cheap labor in china and have in the process also enriched the ccp. >> todd: c congressman, have rereached a point where hearings like that will lead to action and not just words going forward? >> we have to. if we want to survive as a free nation. if we want to protect the world world domination

we spoke with mike gal the ger recently -- gallagher recently, and he told me he thinks china could gowan as soon as 2024. he said we'll be distracted with our election, tear going to be distracted with an election in taiwan, that's the year that he's worried about. and going into that we see this opinion in the journal about how ready the united states really is. >> welk one of the problems with the war in ukraine is it's depleting our stockpile of munitions. the house -- we're engaged in war games during their retreat and that "wall street journal" piece said one of the results is we could deplete ourselves of long range anti-ship missiles in a day of fighting. again, we need to be sure we can defend our own nation before we start beating the drums of war around the world. the best way to counter all this is to strengthen america, solve our debt and deficit issues, strengthen our economy, provide better jobs to america, end inflation, and we're going the exact opposite direction under the biden administration. maria: senator, it feels that that ron desantis lost some leadership in th

and, josh hawley, marco rubio the most recent podcast that came out i think yesterday is with mike gallagher, congressman from from wisconsin and talking about his chairmanship of the china special task force special committee and and the topics that he's going to cover as part of his chairmanship looking at the role of ccp as you know tries to gain ground in the u.s. and european markets but they also talked about issues like diversity in the military and, a whole range of topics. and as you know, you know, there's just so much ground that marshall and sagar cover in their conversations so please do go to that podcast and continue to support the realignment we are excited that for a full day of great conversations one of the first conversations to kick off the morning will be with someone that i've known for a number of years. we both lived in san francisco, so during the time he's now based in colorado, i moved to florida like a lot of people we are refugees from the from the state of california but he's an investor in my company now and he's very thoughtful guy come from an academic backg

mascot and demand before i go that everyone take the mask off because the working stage of the mike gallaghered differently from those who attend the gala but that's exactly what happened. she's not a warrior for the middle-class or low-income american cheese and leaders who wants to be treated like an elitist. all the while all of the middle-class lawyer for the p poor. >> thank used good to see you. it will only come back, liberal lunacy continues to spiral out of control. new york city is about to spend 5.3 million taxpayer dollars on five toilets. five, part five porta-potties in oregon. they may pay people to be homeless. i don't know, maybe i'll go to portland and live off the government there. straight ahead. [cheers and applause] will[applause] >> a ride tonight liberal lunacy is spiraling out of control. and this is on both goes. listen to this, new york city's government, they agreed to play over $20,000 each to hundreds of protesters from the 202020 riots because they were either confined, or they claim they were beaten by the police. now, the total bill comes in at more than $6 mi

maria: well, michael gallagher mike gallagher head of the china select committee told me a couple weeks are going to do so next year. in 2024. because we are going to be distracted on our own election taiwan has election do you agree with that? >> i think -- i feel very confident that they are going to try to influence, the taiwanese election next january. and, they are very good at this game they did it in hong kong without a shot fired that will be first plan, if they fail at that, i do think the -- the military invasion is very much on the table they would start with something like a blockade followed massive cyber tactic west coast of united states amphibious landing in taiwan we know taiwan is not prepared for this, so signed up weapons three years ago they've get to go into country. >> unbelievable they -- we have know deterrents no jo jojo joint exercises with taiwan the question who will help them fight united states japan australia uk the quad? what is the plan here? >> have you gotten answers as far as why you signs off on that equipment and it still has not gone to taiwan? i

select committee or house select committee on china proceedings a couple weeks ago chaired by mike gallagher you saw a fair degree of consensus about what exactly the challenge was and again while there were differences on the policies, i don't think that you see any attempt to kind of minimize the challenge from either side. so if anything this is a case of running someone in contrast and many other areas with american politics. there isra a high degree of bipartisanship because there's the sense that this will have to be a policy framework that is continued across theic administration. this was true in the cold war of course while there were debates aboutot what exactly the right response to the soviet challenge was.re there was a bipartisan framework that was put in place first in the truman administration and then continued in the eisenhower administration and again with all the changes in the presidency over the subsequent years a fairly high degree of agreement about the basic challenge, and i think we are seeing the same thing with people arguing about whether it's right to call this

mike gallagher says american should not dismiss putin's threat. >> we have not seen any indication that he has made good on this pledge or moved any nuclear weapons around. we have seen no indication that he has any intention to use nuclear weapons period. >> putin has engaged in nuclear saber rattling since the start of the crisis. it is something to be concerned about but we should not allow his threats to deter us. we can't allow it to be a cause for delaying critical weapons systems we need to deliver to the ukrainians. >> harris: critics say president biden's foreign policy has led to this. >> when you project weakness you invite aggression and war. putin invading ukraine and chairman xi in china threatening taiwan and the pacific. all these things are happening at the same time and it is not by accident. >> for america it matters. you now have these two powers combined working against the interests of the united states of america. the fact that the biden administration has let this happen is tragic and unnecessary. >> harris: jason, who is putting america first? >> unfortunately w

listen to mike gallagher. >> they can control what news we get.reasingly a news source for young americans. it can be used to meddle in future elections. do we want to give the chinese communist party that level of power over our sense of reality and our sense of national identity? >> dana: your thoughts on that. >> it is certainly a valid concern. i find it interesting no one seems to bring up the scandal when meta sold our data to several chinese operators in the last several years and twitter was working with the f.b.i. to spy on american citizens. the communist party mines all the rare element resources involved in making all of our electronic devices and so many other countless examples. security is a paramount issue in the 21st century and particularly in the digital age. how much of this is truly about one app versus the content that is featured on that app? i for one choose to stay engaged on tiktok. 60% of the 150 million americans active on this app every month are people like myself born after 1997 looking for a new way for news, inform

republican committee chair mike gallagher said that the threat is life or death. >> it is not a politematch. this is san existential struggle over when life will look like. most fundamental freedoms are at stake. >> he is like a jude law. and leo dicaprio had a hot baby. the white house may not fully agree. fbi director wray does. >> the fbi has for some time now assessed that the origins of pandemic are most likely a potential lab incidence in wuhan. kennedy: wuhan clan, not a fan, is china our biggest enemy? joining me now to discuss, florida republican congressman, member of house committee, carlos gimenez. >> hell how are you. >> what did you think of your first hearing? >> i thought it was really good. what i was looking for was my colleagues from across aisle how they would react and their questions. for the most part, i think that there is one theme one item we have bipartisan support, we're agree china is the threat. china is the existential threat, the biggest threat in my lifetime, more so than soviet union ever was. kennedy: that says something. you are no stranger to the da

rally over the weekend here actually on lori side chinese communist party by which he tore as a mike gallagherepublican and a democrat. i think it is something that can go forward. to your point why can we do two things at once? why can't you say it is feasible that it came from a lab. low confidence from the department of energy and a little bit higher competence from the fbi peer that people shouldn't have been racist. a bad thing to walk around beating up asian people and say it is coming flu. >> greg: you don't have any evidence that is connected. there is a lot of asian pilots that had nothing to do with trump, calling it the chinese flew, there is something else going on, you know that. >> jessica: i have a point. >> greg: less offensive. >> jessica: is that how it works? >> dana: yes, that's how it works. >> greg: i felt like that was micro-aggression and may be micro -- >> jessica: you were eating my time here there is a direct correlation to having a virus that is killing people in this country that we know came from china here there was a huge spike in it and i know it was more black

including those that sit on the new house select committee on china, and even its chair, republican mike gallaghers loyalty to the united states, it is out of bounds, it's beyond the pail. >> well, it was so gratifying to see immediate support, and immediately the congressional black caucus, the head of the congressional hispanic caucus and the american jewish council all issued statements saying it is outrageous and condemning the allegations. it's that kind of al ley ship that we need. now remember 120,000 japanese americans were incarcerated during world war ii, they targeted the leaders first. and then they isolated those leaders from the rest of the japanese american community. and this was all based on accusations of espionage, amongst japanese americans. well, they lost everything that they had, but as it turned out now, there's never been a single case of espionage proven. >> we never want to see that history repeated. that's for sure. congresswoman judy chu thanks so much for your time. >>> the u.s. government's pressure on tiktok is mounting. a bill to grant the president fufull authorit

john: and that was a big topic of the inaugural meeting of the china select committee, chairman mike gallagherhe believes china is a threat, and there was an interesting interview dana perino had with steven hadley. >> the china of george w. bush faced was very different from the china we see today. that china in 2001 to 2009 was looking for a benign international environment so it could focus on its own economic development. it wanted to be part of the international system rather than disrupt it. and it wanted a constructive and cooperative relationship with the united states. >> john: of course that is when china was a toddler, now that it's a teenager it wants to get into every fight that it finds. >> yeah. i do think there is vulnerability for china. they have a lot of people moving from the rural section of the country to the urban section. a lot of issues internally to deal with. so there is vulnerability on supply chains and other things but they are aggressive around the world and we as a country have to come up with a policy to deal with it. >> gillian: john talks about this, aside fr

members of both parties tried to out-do each other in the denunciation of china describing, as mike gallagher did, the communist party is a threat to the united states and blaming it directly for every problem in america from drug use to covid, to unemployment and since unemployment is at a more than a 50-year low. one could dismiss some of this more extreme rhetoric as the usual congressional grandstanding. but it creates a dynamic that makes rational policy difficult. consider what happened a few weeks ago. the president of the united states in what can only be described as a panic ordered the u.s. military to shoot down three balloons that were probably private weather balloons similar to hundreds of such objects in the sky around the world that posed no threat to anyone. the source of the balloons used by meteorological clubs could cost as little as $12. the missiles used to shoot down the recent offending objects cost over $400,000 each. the shootdowns were orders so that no one could claim that joe biden was soft on china. china is a serious strategic competitor. the most significant gr

. >> that was in response to mike gallagher, who is the chairman of the select committee on china.n. that was the assessment. she would not recommend people -- children or young people go on tiktok because china has a policy, a law that says the government, the communist party, can access data from any of their so-called private companies. that's different from other social media platforms. >> as i mentioned, there's no evidence that any of this has happened. there's no evidence presented to me as a member of congress that this is taking place. however, there is evidence to support and show that facebook looked the other way while russia interfered in our 2016 election. there is evidence to show that the myanmar genocide was mainly facilitated through facebook. there's evidence to show donald trump using twitter to help incite and inspire an insurrection. there's misinformation and there's data brokers selling our data. if you were to ban tiktok, these things will still be taking place. we will still be unsafe and insecure. data brokers can sell our data to the chinese government a

joining us now is chairman mike gallagher and ranking member raja congressman gallagher, i want to startng you the attack of targeting u.s. basis in syria and left an american contractor dead and several members wounded. that didn't seem to stop them, what more should we be doing? >> well, i think we should be concerned of our deterrent posture of iran is crumbling. we can't afford another return like that. some practical steps going forward to reimpose a policy of maximum economic pressure, a ban to attempt to resuscitate comprehensive plan of action. a report on the u.s./israeli technology group which should have a practice proposal how we can turbo charge against the israelis and help us to better defend the threat. very concerning, more we need to do and we need to have a clear idea of the regime we are facing in teheran. >> congresswoman krishnamoorthi. why is this happening if we are there to fight isis? >> well, i think we are kind of targets of opportunity for iranian back malicious. we are not going anywhere. we have to stay in northern syria and work with our partners in iraq a

maria: i think what mike gallagher was trying to say we gave china a chance in the middle to try to embrace the free trade that have been happening but now there's a real question about the most favored nation status that the ccp enjoys i don't know what that would do in terms of expenses from corporate america because if you are going to change the trait situation with china you will see prices go higher. >> the dirty little secret about inflation part of the reason inflation has been as high as it's been we lost the chief supply out of china and we said we don't want to export jobs to china but guess what they supplied a lot of stuff a lot cheaper than we could make it. unfortunately when they went back into lockdown we lost that and that resulted in higher costs and it ultimately think there is a workaround worth a and how to reassure the manufacturing but that's the dirty little secret nobody wants to talk about with china we don't like him but they make stuff cheap and that keeps prices lower. >> that's with the globalist and corporate america does not want the boat to rock speaking of

as you know, mike gallagher has been appointed to chair a new china committee. michael mccaul, i know that these are the top of their list of concerns. certainly in the intelligence committee. in the senate, we have been focusing on china for a while now. certainly, we are in a race to develop some of the most advanced technologies in the world, whether ai or quantum computing, but things which threaten to undermine our ability to defend ourselves and deter them as the aggressor. hal: the current framework for u.s. policy toward taiwan is spelled out in the taiwan relations act, passed over four decades ago, has been translated into something that is often referred to as strategic ambiguity. what america would do if a conflict broke out on the taiwan straight. there has been more debate in the past two years or so whether the u.s. should shift to a position of strategic clarity, issuing something closer to an alliance-like guarantee, that it would come to taiwan's aid if it were attacked. do you have a view on which policy makes the most sense? or is it more of

we have the china select committee, headed by mike gallagher, great members like ron whitman, jim banksing it out to the floor. i think it's a very good development that the american people are beginning to realize firsthand because we've got to deal with this threat. we can't just sit on our hands and wring our hands. we've got to take decisive action on the military side, technological side, economic side. cheryl: the critics of president biden are pointing out he doesn't seem to be very tough on china. maria has pointed that out several times. he refuses for whatever reason to not push back against xi jinping and you've got nine chinese planes that just crossed the taiwan straits' median line. and you've got taiwan's president set to leave new york for guatemala today but yesterday here's what she said, she said china deliberately raises tensions but taiwan he responds cautiously and calmly. there is kind of a feeling now from her and from others in the intelligence community that china is pushing this button over taiwan now. do they think that president biden is weak? do they think

i want to go back to chairman mike gallagher's opening comments in the vision he laid out as he zrieked military threat. counter that to what democrats said. democratic members seem to be more focused on bolstering u.s. technology and investing in technologies of the future. so is the committee on the same page in terms of how they envisioned this investigation and this committee working? >> well, i'm certainly optimistic about our ability to come together on a few key areas and hone in, certainly, there are differences of opinion in approach. there were some members on the midwest in southeastern michigan. we certainly cannot decouple from china, particularly, as it relates to exports and trade and the securitization of the supply chain. so, i think we need to be strategic. and i take this as a wake-up call from our economy. certainly hearing from general mcmaster on the national security considerations under way cannot be underestimated. and we need to be is wide open with what we are facing with regard to this competition. but if you hear mr. mcmaster, he's talking about competition

that comes from mike gallagher, tom cotten, senator lindsey graham but these are all of those who havethis was something to do. actually we need to be doing more and that's exactly right. disseminate attacks on american facilities in sierra by running back to groups just for some biden took office. that is a catastrophe for somebody to respond to as a nation we can do that while pushing back on china at the same time. that's the present state was on a show of force on the world sensors also news the foreign minister from china and honduras signed joint communicates to establish diplomatic ties issuing a statement that has severed ties with taiwan and recognizes only one in china in the world. what is the impact on one of china's influence in latin america now and how should the u.s. read this? i was a deeply concerned we see china making inroads around the world never making significant inroads things we've already seen behind closed door for nursing publicly happen in her own backyard in latin america. it's completely unacceptable. we need to take a strong posture can be a strong wrot

republican congressman mike gallagher said it is now more likely congress will ban or force tiktok toart ways with its chinese parent company of actually united republicans and democrats out of a concern of allowing the ccp. >> to control the most dominant media platform in america. so far the white house is stopping short of endorsing an outright ban pending a federal review of the app. we don't want to get ahead of this review on cbs's face the nation. national security council spokesman john kirby said the white house remains concerned about tiktok national security threat. right now the administration is backing a bill that would give the president new authority to ban the app if further risk are identified. last week we did see tiktok deployed dozens of tiktok creators to the hill to push back against a federal ban. >> many of them arguing a ban could disrupt their lives or their finances. but that argument doesn't seem to be deterring lawmakers who insist that another app could fill that gap for now in washington, raquel martin, back to you. >> thank you, raquel. it is a 23. and

representative mike gallagher, the head of the new china committee was in taiwan drawing attention tonice we're providing air-to-air missiles and armed package can go on f-16s the taiwanese previously bought which are old incidentally, that we're plussing up taiwan, deterring china in the specific, just not true. neil: christian, is it f-16 or f-16 munitions? when i heard that, i thought that is not what we're not at least at this point providing ukraine? >> well that's right. we are not providing ukraine with f-16s. that is considered sort of a big step. the taiwanese are in a different place with the f-16. they have a older version of the f-16 for decades. the previous administration approved sale of newer f-16s, retrofit of existing f-16s. those f-16s might not last more than a now hours into conflict with china. recent u.s. moves, focused on weapons like mines, lower tech, mobile, stealthier, that might evade chinese offensive weapons. neil: christian, we worry about are we going to actual military war with china, number of people on the show, gordon chang, china expert that could

mike gallagher was on the show recently, he said he thinks that the invasion of taiwan happens in 2024ency year that he's worried about. it's always a pleasure to talk with you. thanks very much. you've been spot with all of this. >> 00 that you, maria. maria: quick break and then another norfolk southern train derailed in ohio. pete buttigieg would rather make fun of what he calls the east coast elite. we're on it, next. ♪ for businesses of all sizes, there are a lot of choices when it comes to your internet and technology needs. when you choose comcast business internet, you choose the largest, fastest reliable network. you choose advanced security for total peace of mind. and you choose a next generation 10g network that's always improving, getting faster; more reliable; and more intelligent to keep you ready for today and tomorrow. the choice is clear: make your business future ready with the network from the most innovative company. comcast business. powering possibilities™. i know there's conflicting information about dupuytren's contracture. i thought i couldn't get treatment ye

the chinese owners sell their stakes in the app i want to play what the head of the nsa told mike gallagher last week >> one-third of americans get their news from tiktok every single day one-sixth of american youth say they're constantly on tiktok that's a loaded gun, congressman. >> what makes tiktok a loaded gun, congressman what's your reaction to the administration's decision? >> first, it's a problem that one-sixth of young people are on any app for six hours or any app. that's a problem but we need to make sure that the chinese communist party doesn't have an influence in suddenly having propaganda on that app and that's why i support the administration's decision to force the sale let an american company buy it given how many young people are on it. >> congressman, always a pleasure i thank you very much for your time >> thank you, jose >>> coming up, new video of what the pentagon says is a russian jet colliding with a u.s. drone. take a look at this and what officials believe was behind this clash >>> and later, it's been six months since the death of the iranian woman igniting pr

committee chair mike gallagher laid out a gop vision of an external facing quote, existential struggleagainst china's ideological, technological, economic, and military brett. what do you make of this? >> i think that the actual language of the resolution, publicly better captures at, least on a more consensus space that's what we're trying to do here, which is try to investigate and uncover facts regarding the challenges posed by the chinese economy this party, also those the cpp, with regards to our economic, military, and technological security. i think that's the challenge that we have is that on the one hand, we need to protect our values and our interests against any potential challenges from the ccp, but we have to engage with the people's republic of china. it is 1.4 billion people. our quarrel cannot be with the people of china, even though we may have differences with the ccp. >> i know that the origin of covid was not necessarily brought up in the first half of this meeting, but republicans did eventually bring that up. specifically, this report from the department of energy

mike gallagher, congressman from wisconsin who heads the china committee and is a rising star, is athat need to be said to galvanize america to realize the challenge it faces from this rising power of china. maria: that's right. well, look, you're not hearing it from joe biden. he keeps calling china a competitor. we don't want conflict, we just want competition. we're competing. it's not a exit or the, it's an adversary, hugo. they don't want to say it. they walk on egg shell ises around the ccp, which is why we keep bringing up this issue of influence peddling. >> they absolutely co. i mean, there is obviously an unfortunate connection between the fact that the company -- or the country, rath rather, is paying millions of dollars to the biden family for we know not what as the united states' principal adversary and, frankly, is determined to to displace this country as the leading power in the world. maria: that's right. >> and it's been trying to do this steadily over the course of three, four decades. maria: absolutely. >> it's really something that the people have to wake up to,

we cannot make everything here to supply the rest of the world but, as committee chairman mike gallagher has pointed out it would be very important for us to start bringing together bilateral trade agreements with some of our other allies like the united kingdom, taiwan and others so that we can start to mitigate the damage that frankly china has caused the american economy and american manufacturers. neil: you know, you speak of those manufacturers, jay, we're already learning a number of apple suppliers are racing to get out of china. easier said than done. maybe they think out safer and cheap labor confines, thailand comes to mind, vietnam. often times it is not that easy. they're looking at a big hit if china is hit. what do you tell them? >> well, look, i think we are developing -- we saw this a year ago. the national association of manufacturers was very grateful to have an address by president zelenskyy of ukraine yesterday. he was speaking to the american business community through the nama. and encouraging us not only stay resolved but also to be there once russia is defeated so

we heard mike gallagher tell cbs on sunday that the committee is hoping to have a conversation firstnba and disney and other companies. do you plan on calling in nba commissi commissioner allen silver? you could subpoena ceos if needed. >> we haven't made specific decisions on individuals. this is a broad threat. they're not just a military threat to the united states. they're an economic threat. they're a threat to their own people. i mean they're committing genocide against some of the citizens and repressing everyone. repressing chinese citizens overseas even here in america. so this is a very broad threat. this is to look at all as inspection between the chinese communist party and the united states. so we're certainly going to get into these economic issues. there is a lot of work to do there. the threat is real. we have to address it. >> let me move on to something we're covering all morning long. the revelations from the rupert murdoch investigation. you're someone who has gone on and continued to go on fox news for interviews. you have written op-eds for them. you continue to

he is mike gallagher. he is an alum. and he's here to share some personal insights into this man we honor today. and for as much time as he prefers to consume, i am pleased to recognize my friend from wisconsin, mike gallagher. mr. gallagher: i thank the gentleman. i rise as a proud graduate, a proud monarch, and i rise to honor a rollinson, but probably not the one you are thinking of. lawrie, who was my a.p. u.s. history teacher and imbued in me a love of united states history, a fascination with our country's history and values which, the more i think about it, and the more i look back on it, set me on a path to not only further exploring those issues in college and graduate school, but to serving my country in the united states marine corps and ultimately serving my country in the united states congress. . so among coach's accolades, perhaps none is higher he outkicked his coverage in terms of the woman that he married and she had a profound impact on my life and so thank you to lori rollinson though we're here to re

mike gallagher during the china committee, the two most important ones on running productive hearings, given what you know about how agencies respond to hearings? yes, i have been both the obstinate person at state department and subject to an obstinate secretary clinton. yeah, i've seen them both. the best can do is make sure that you show with people who know answers to the questions you intend to ask. that is, don't don't bring folks who for the purpose theater bring them because they are subject matter knowledgeable whether they're in administration or experts outside. and second do your best to get the panel to be organized and disciplined because at the very least if the person on the other side of the table doesn't want to answer questions. you're not going to you're not going to cleverly goad them into it. but if you lay a logical sequence of the questions you present, you will force them to give you more than they intended. and stay on the mission, less grandstanding, better lots of preparation by the members themselves can you were disciplined in your questioning i remember