kristen: mike isaac, you are a wealth of information, good talking with you.hanks so much. >> thanks for having me. kristen: the summer travel season is expected to be busy again. we will talk with a travel expert next about ways to plan and save money. kristen: we are weeks away from the summer travel season but experts are sounding the alarm of a possibly hellish summer of air travel, saying it could be worse than last summer. why? and how to increase the likelihood of a stress free trip, joining me is katie nastro . i got scared just looking at the headline because last summer was so bad. so many cancellations. so much lost luggage, the lines. how could this summer possibly be worse? >> for sure, last so many people were looking to get back out there and travel and live that lived experience that we love from travel. but this summer is interesting, because we are going into a not only peak season, but people are traveling in the anticipated way that they used to pre-pandemic. so we could potentially see more people traveling than 2018 pre-pandemic levels. w