in other words, mike brown was simply told to get out of the street. rep. jeffries: sir, my time has expired. but for you to come here and testify essentially that eric garner is responsible for his own death when he was targeted by police officers for allegedly selling loose cigarettes, and that was an administrative situation for which he got the death penalty, is outrageous. for us to come to a conversation, we have to at least agree on reasonable facts that all americans interpret particularly in this instance, because they caught the whole thing on tape. i yield back. chair: the chair thinks his friend from new york. the chair now recognizes the gentleman from texas, mr. gomer. rep. gomer: thank you, mr. chairman. i thank all the witnesses for being here. obviously you have spent a lot of time on these issues, rather than just the time here today. it is a difficult issue. i saw a report this morning from the task force. it quotes the task force as saying, "the u.s. department of homeland security should terminate the use of the state and local criminal justice