>> thomas lee is the brother of senator mike lee, associate justice on the utah supreme court.n a vote at the state level, their jir judiciary committee. seen as a very conservative jurist, has a background also as basically like mike lee, the son of a former u.s. solicitor general. the whole lineage relating to the law what many call a strict constructionist or conservative view of the law, goes to the point i was referencing earlier, most people don't know a lot about the difference between a federal and state judge, it all sounds like judges. if anything, it's leaning a little more conservatively to put so many state judges particularly from conservative states on this list, from the political point i would expect we will hear from people themselves i would expect the overlap with the heritage list, that is something that is going to be welcomed by conservatives. there is a view of conservatives some people on the federal bench are too liberal, living view of the constitution and some favorites are in the states and either people elected or in wisconsin, there was one appoin

host: senator mike lee saying recently he is not ready to endorse trump."he scares me to death," is the quote that is there. he says he has serious concerns about donald trump. mike lee, up for reelection this time around. james in south carolina, republican. james, what did you make of the primary fight in your state and how donald trump spoke about jeb bush there? caller: good morning. i have not been to hear what donald trump had to say. i don't even think donald trump is a conservative in any way. i think kindly of the bush family. bothreally been unfair, the way george bush was treated by the democrats while he was president, all the things that have been said by the sitting president. what strikes me is the class that george bush shows. he has not said a word publicly about anything. and donald trump, the only thing i agree with him is we have to secure the border, but, the rest of it, i'm scared for my country of where the republican party goes from here, because i know the democrats don't have the answer. host: because both bushes, presidents, are

mike lee is a tea party favorite. he gets a rating of 100% from conservative review.com.o sykes. charlie sykes is the husband of diane sykes, the radio host out of wisconsin who eviscerated trump and was the leader of the never-trump movement. this is a shrewd list, these are people that are very conservative. it should reassure conservatives that they shouldn't be hashtag never trump, they should be hashtag i'm a convert for trump. charles: the list is pretty good. seen some of the names circulating in the past either by donald trump or conservative organizations. people say two major glaring names, brett kavanaugh and paul clement not on the list. >> you said this a few minutes ago, i'm looking at diane sykes as one of the individuals who is going to be very, very good, in fact, to draw in the cruz people. he's a member of the federal society, she's from the midwest. she's smart. all of them are smart, what a brilliant move putting her on the list, and going with her, this is part of his unity effort, he wants to bring the party together, by coming out this soon with he

she's got mike lee, senator mike lee with her. louie gohmert from texas campaigning with her in indiana. i think it's fair to say it's do or die today for ted cruz. a lot going on in the hoosier state. >> already there, outside the trump event. hours away. plenty of people there. we saw a lot of heat around some of the trump events this weekend in california. what are the odds we see something like this today where you are? >> reporter: i will say indiana ain't california. it ain't chicago. this is not a place where we've seen much of any protests at trump rallies. sometimes you see them early, but i'll tell you. i look at this line, and i don't see anybody, and i would be willing to wager we're not going to see anything like we saw in either california or chicago. >> all right. jeff lock on the scene at the trump event as it's just hours away. thank you, jeff. >>> donald trump calling on republican leaders to unite behind him but also saying he could still win the white house even if they don't decide to help him. >> there should

maybe left off mike lee. >> included his brother. >> all he has to do now is act typical. a political science student could have put that list together. >> for a lot of people worried about trump, if they say okay, if trump picks from this list, that's enough. they can get over all their over reservations because the battle cry will be, you may have reservations about trump, but do you want to give up a coequal branch for a generation. >> they're never voting for hillary. why not go a little more moderate. he had to wave this flag. >> this is a flag you have to wave for a certain type of voter. the delegates will like this list. it's been denounced already by one of the leading judicial voices. it also speaks to, again, for a certain type of republican, speaks to a bed rock principle about constitutionalism. i think it's a smart list. he'll take some heat but in the left-right world that's the kind of heat you take. >> we have to be honest. we have lost count of all the things donald trump has said about foreign policy that would have probably torpedos any other presidenti

. >> by the way, thomas lee of utah is related to mike lee. >> brother. >> right. >> mike lee's a great guy. and his brother is highly respected. william h. pryor of alabama. david stras of -- somebody -- a friend of mine who's a great lawyer said this is a fantastic man. david stras of minnesota. diane sykes of wisconsin. don willett of texas. and that's your list. and we're going to either choose from this list or people very close to it in terms of their -- >> so this is your judicial philosophy. >> yes. >> you know, one of the things i think people had questioned, i had interviewed you a lot during this process and you gave me very specific things. and one of the top things i would ask you often is your judicial philosophy. you mentioned, as i said, scalia and thomas. they are what we call originalists. >> right. >> constitutionalists. >> correct. >> you are a constitutionalist. >> correct. correct. and i'm also -- i want high intellect, great intellect. these people are of high itellect, they're pro-life. we're going to choose from this list but at a minimum we'll keep people withi

his brother, wasn't mike lee also throughout of, the senator, as somebody that might be named?has come up quite a bit. he's somebody who clerked at the high court for justice alito. he is a very well respected intellectually deep and very much conservative. hs name has come up a number of times for this supreme court. he has a rich legacy, he and his family in the judicial branch. again now his brother is sitting on the supreme court in utah is now on short list for donald trump. so not surprising there but what's interesting is that so many of these federal judges often have clerkships at very high levels and many of them with the supreme court. and there are several who have, as i mentioned earlier, clerked for people like justice thomas, justice rehnquist. if you are trying to satisfy conservatives that you are going to take people who are serious and will adhere to the conservative philosophy while they remain on the court, because we know a lot of folks come here and drift away from the right once they're on the court. clerks for thomas and rehnquist, he'll impress conserv

whether his -- whether it is his college roommate or a friend from texas or mike lee from the utah. i would rather have mike lee and louie gohmert and david limbaugh -- i would rather have them as friends than john boehner. all those friends in the same thing about 10. they say he is exactly the same. behind closed doors, kicking back, out in public. i bring that up because at some of who has endorsed donald trump recently, ben carson is set on the day that he endorsed donald in publicis one guy and one guy in private. the best decisions -- the biggest decisions presidents will make are made in private. we better know what kind of what kind of supreme court justice they won't nominate in private. we better know that whenever everybody is saying you can't do that, you can't actually go to a simple flat tax to illuminate president will say yes i can. we need to know who he is and private. -- in private. then i got to observe him as a husband. heri, you will get to meet in a bit. she is a brilliant woman. she is in a compost, brilliant woman. -- accomplished, brilliant woman. she has a

brother of senator mike lee. of course mike lee endorsed ted cruz during the primary.hen there is judge diane psychs. she is ex-wife of charlie sykes. if that name sounds familiar from the wisconsin primary, one influential conservative voices in that state who endorsed ted cruz during the primary. then don will let of texas. dnc is jumped over an willet, said several unflatter things about trump. dnc sending that out. i'm quoting from donald trump, the following list of potential supreme court justices is representative of the kind of constitutional principles i value and as president i plan to use this list as a guide to nominate our next united states supreme court justices. white house press secretary josh earnest was asked about this earlier today. and he somewhat laughed it off. >> i would be surprised if there are any democrats who would describe any of those 11 individuals as a consensus nominee. but the individual that president obama has put forward is somebody that republicans have described as a consensus nominee. reporter: trump has said he would solicit t

including utah judge thomas lee, brother of utah senator mike lee, who endorsed ted cruz. texas judge don willlet who repeatedly mocked trump on twitter, calling him darth trump. >> i don't believe anything he says. she would be an outstanding choice. >> reporter: the brash outsider trying to convince insiders he's serious. meeting with gop foreign policy icon henry kissinger. and despite trashing politics that take campaign cash as corrupt. >> me, i'm different. i'm self-funding my campaign. i'm working for you. >> reporter: he signed a joint fund-raising agreement with the republican party. now trump is working on rehabbing his image. making peace with megyn kelly over the words used in his twitter tirades. >> it was a retweet. did i say that? >> many times. >> ooh. okay. excuse me. >> reporter: and this morning, sending out one of his most effective surrogates, daughter ivanka, to push back on accusations in a "new york times" article. >> he's not a groper. that's not who he is. i've known my father obviously my whole life, and he has total respect for women. >> reporte

with ties to funding for the residents of flint, michigan, but that bill was blocked by senator mike lee of utah. he did not like it, if you will. so senate you are telling me you can't find enough energy to help people choking on lead in flinlt but you have time to dick around the news feed on facebook which isn't really even a [bleep] news feed, all right. if only we could get those brainy 20 something to create an algorithm to get the senate to stop su pes-- suppressing issues that are really important to america. no, not the damn beer the country. but i think i need one of those right now anyways. we'll be right back. (applause) ♪ i could get used to this. now you can, with the luxuriously transformed 2016 lexus es and es hybrid. ♪ belvita breakfast biscuits provide steady morning energy whether you... play it cool... how's it going? or don't play it cool. you're attractive! i just... i didn't mean to come on so... i... wasn't coming on to you i actually have a boyfriend. belvita. because we can all use steady morning energy. i am rich. in my gentleman's quarters we sip champagne and

a play to win over trump skeptics, including utah judge, thomas lee, brother of senator mike lee, who endorsed ted cruz. texas judge don willett, who repeatedly mocked trump on twitter, calling him darth trump. ex-wife of conservative never trump radio host, charlie sykes. >> i don't believe anything he says, but she would be an outstanding choice. >> republican insider, he is serious, leading with foreign poli policy icon henry kissinger. and those who take campaign cash as corrupt. >> me oor, i'm self-funding. >> he signed a joint fundraising agreement with the republican party. now, trump is work on rehabbing his image. making peace with megyn kelly over the words used in his twitter tirades. >> bimbo? >> well, that was a retweet. did i say that? >> many times. >> okay, excuse me. >> sending out one of his most effective surrogating, daughter ivan ivanka, to push back on accusations in a new york times article. >> he is not a groper. that's not who he is. i've known him my whole life and he has total respect for women. >> that was katy tur reporting. >>> democrats more fractured th

with ties to funding for the residents of flint, michigan, but that bill was blocked by senator mike lee of utah. he did not like it, if you will. so senate you are telling me you can't find enough energy to help people choking on lead in flinlt but you have time to dick around the news feed on facebook which isn't really even a [bleep] news feed, all right. if only we could get those brainy 20 something to create an algorithm to get the senate to stop su pes-- suppressing issues that are really important to america. no, not the damn beer, the country. but i think i need one of those right now anyways. we'll be right back. (applause) ♪ who's the genius who puts a girl in heels on a subway grate? miss monroe, eat a snickers. why? you get a little cranky when you're hungry. better? much better. this scene will never make the cut. >> larry: all right, welcome back. margaret saninger once wrote women muses not accept-- challenge which is what holly walker said to me when she took the last breakfast-- this morning. and that could eastern mean one thing, it's lady time. (cheers and applause) >

a conservative dream team and a plan to win over trump's skep c skeptics brother of mike lee who endorsed ted cruz. and federal judge diane sykes, ex-wife of conservative never trump radio host charlie sykes. >> i don't believe anything he says, but she would certainly be an outstanding choice. >> the brass outsider trying to convince republican insiders he is serious. meeting with gop icon henry k s kissing kissinger. >> me, i'm different. i'm self-funding my campaign. i'm working for you. >> reporter: he signed a joint fund-raising agreement with the republican party. now trump is working on rehabbing his image, making peace with megyn kelly over the words used in his twitter tirades. >> bimbo? >> well, there was a retweet. did i say that? >> many times. >> oh, okay. excuse me. >> reporter: sending out one of his most effective surrogates, daughter ivanka to push back on accusation in a "the new york times" article. >> he's not a groper. i've known my father obviously my whole life and he has total respect for women. >> while trump makes move to unite his parties, democrats are more fra

with ties to funding for the residents of flint, michigan, but that bill was blocked by senator mike lee of utah. he did not like it, if you will. so senate you are telling me you can't find enough energy to help people choking on lead in flinlt but you have time to dick around the news feed on facebook which isn't really even a [bleep] news feed, all right. if only we could get those brainy 20 something to create an algorithm to get the senate to stop su pes-- suppressing issues that are really important to america. no, not the damn beer, the country. but i think i need one of those right now anyways. we'll be right back. (applause) jordan and chelsea were searching for the perfect place for their wedding on booking.com. oh! yurt. yes! earthy... just rustic. [laughing] oh my gosh. wow. [owl howling] [gulp] uh, how about an island? island, yeah. yeah. yeah. [laughing] were you laughing in your fantasy? yeah! me, too. [gasps] when our troops don't come back, someone has to help their families move forward. my family lost so much. it was a shock. it was a void. special operations warrior f

he was the first incumbent senate republican to be ousted by a tea party member, in his case, mike lee. here he is at the utah convention where he finished a dismal third despite the backing of mitt romney. >> it's very clear that some of the votes that i have cast have added to the toxic environment. looking back on them with one or two minor exceptions, i wouldn't have cast any of them any differently. even if i had known at the time they were going to cost me my career. now at the risk of getting a little emotional, i want to thank my staff. i get dewey eyed at the dedication of parking lot so -- stand up for me and defend the votes i have cast. even when some of them may have advised me against them. it has been a major highlight of the campaign. >> a spokes woman says he died wednesday from complications of pancreatic cancer and a recent stroke. he was 82 years old. >>> still ahead here on "way too early," old enough to die for your country, but not old enough to smoke. some new tobacco restrictions to tell you about. >>> and plus, federal officials join the investigation into the

you saw senator mike lee's brother. he's also on the list.homas rex lee, does that weigh in to consideration. solid name. bret: ruth bader ginsburg has the same kind of pitch. lee is a respected judge but he's also the brother of senator lee who has also been talked about as a potential nominee down the road. and he said he's interested, maybe. so we'll see. kennedy: their dad had a part in the reagan administration. so a bit of a family legacy there. bret require's also the friend of ted cruz. bret: it's also the friend of ted cruz. kennedy: it gestures he's made recently to try to pearlate the establishment, this is the one that has been most effective, listing these people. i'm hearing he had help from the heritage foundation and the federalist society. bret: he called "national review" who remember wrote a magazine specifically about trump cannot be president. there is an outreach going on and we'll see how successful it is. kennedy: it's very manafort. thank you very much. what happens when you launch a firecracker in the belly of a wate

mike lee./ stand up straight and comb your hair and flesh out economic policies. >> dallas for msu call hair as part of the index -- that was actually four unless you call hair as part of the antics. >> you have connection to forces with the never trump movement, they are still out there, is there still a never trump movement, not like i will not vote for him but to try to stop him from being the nominee? dan: some donors will sit on the sidelines and stay out of the race. some donors looking for ways to find an independent candidate, center-right candidate to be on the stage with donald trump and hillary clinton. i will not mention names. people who might want to have -- dan: ben sass is an interesting guy. him.uld use someone like to help make the case for conservatives. ballot anddown budgets will he throw this in the house of representatives and win and you make a statement about the future of the conservative movement that it should not be in the hands of this guy who is hijacking in and does not believe in conservative principles and has the wrong temperament for the job, republic

mary: stop your high school antics and keep suburban women d and scotus, either cruz or mike lee, irond flush out your economic policies and stand up straight and comb your hair. mark: that is four. john: so, never trump for you, you have some connection to the very enforcements that used to constitute the never trump movement, the operatives. the folks are still out there. an: i think there are some donors who will just sit on the sidelines and sit out of the race and some donors who are looking for ways to find a candidate to be on the stage with trump and clinton. i'm not going to mention names. john: the kinds of people they might want to -- interesting is an guy. and we could use someone like him to help make the case for conservatives. to save the downbalance to potentially throw this in the house of representatives and win and to make a statement about the future of the conservative movement, it should not be in the hand of this dwy who is hijacking it and doesn't believe n conservative principles. they should have someone to vote for and some donors will go to trump. but the bi

and it was used to prop of his campaign for mayor in '07 and during cross-examination, lawyer mike lee will fight back, saying he did this without the knowledge of the congressman and is hoping for leniency from judge harvey bartle. rick, lynnfield was calm and collected and will return to the witness stand tomorrow and the cross-examination will be tense and withering. live at the federal courthouse, i'm vernon odom, channel 6 "action news." >> thank you. >>> philadelphia police believe they know the identity of the gunman during last night's shooting and arson in the city's winfield section. police were called here just after midnight and there they found a teenager shot three times and a plastic chair on fire on the front porch. sara bloomquist will have more on the fight that led to the altercation and the latest on the investigation coming up tonight at 6:00. >> the atlantic city council is expected to vote today on whether to allow open containers of alcohol on the boardwalk, if approved they will hold a trial period over the summer. anyone of legal drinking able will be allowed

justice thomas lee, he clerked at the high court for justice clarence thomas, the brother of senator mike lee, they're both the sons of former solicitor general rex lee. and texas supreme court justice don willett is on the list. he worked in the bush administration, not your typical jurist. you have an entertaining twitter feed aimed at mr. trump including this one -- well, tonight, justice willett finds himself on the list along with others from key states that could be important in the general election in the fall. colorado, pennsylvania, missouri and minnesota. lou, that's it from the supreme court, back to you. lou: shannon bream, thank you. those potential justices should be very careful of that tweet stuff. i hear that can be risky. >>> on the democratic side, we don't know officially who won yesterday's kentucky primary election. however, clinton has declared herself the victory in what would be a very narrow outcome. sanders and clinton actually split the delegate count in the vermont senator is vowing to stay in the race and fight on. fox news senior political correspondent mike ema

the senators were senator mike lee, ht part he senator from -- a tea party senator from utah and patrick leahy, a democratic senator from vermont. the leader of the house was a very young tea party person and the other sponsor of reform in the house was john conyers, a long-time african-american, democratic liberal from detroit. these issues can bring people together. the other point i would like to , in terms of what the church committee did and didn't do -- on the afternoon of 9/11, james baker, who was bush and bush, hw and, and ronald reagan member and was principal lawyer for george w. bush in florida and was a real establishment, intelligent person went on channel seven, abc news and said the church committee caused 9/11. that was a very far-fetched thought. at first, if you read what the church committee said, we said, for example with the fbi, that the fbi should increase attention to terrorism and devote less or no attention to american domestic politics. that they should increase their attention to terrorism and we said the cia should do more to use human infiltration of bad re

he did it with mike pence, carly fiorina, and senator mike lee. there is a mystery why. shows that donald trump leads the primary with 49% my ted cruz at 34%. the texas senator also has a new ad calling from a liar and a p honey. this morning he said despite the odds, he could still become the nominee and he sparred with hecklers holding trump signs. sen. cruz: i am in for the distance as long as we have a viable path to victory. i am running to be everyone's president. >> we don't want you. sen. cruz: you are entitled to your respect -- to your perspective. >> do the math. you wanted kasich out, now it is your turn. cruz: trump is not going to get 1237. >> he is going to get more than 1237. you are the problem. where is your goldman sachs's your wife know that works there. sen. cruz: actually i was supported by an average conservation of $60. on immigration, donald trump had a $1 million budget hiring illegal immigrants. he is bringing in hundreds of foreign workers instead of hiring americans. don't want you. sen. cruz: you are entitled to that view, but i tell you --

judge thomas lee on the supreme court of utah is the brother of senator mike lee who is ted cruz's closest ally in the senate. i mean, each name has an appeal to the base of the republican party and i have to believe they are going to be pleased. >> and then also, it does say something, one would think positive, about his attempts to unify the party if he's bringing in people who have been critical of him or are connected to people who have been critical of him. >> well, yes, but not to the moderates in the party, to the extent they still exist. they, i don't think, will be pleased by this list but certainly the conservatives who have been a big problem for donald trump, you know, the -- that's where the third-party talk has been most loud, they will be pleased by this list and it's going to be, i think, part of the consolidating that he's trying to do with the party. >> fascinating. jeffrey toobin, thank you so much. really appreciate it. trump's supreme court list comes as they try to reach out to party establishment figures on foreign policy. he just arrived with former secretary of sta

two, give an ironclad guarantee on scotus either cruz or mike lee.lad on that and flush out your economic policies and stand up straight and comb your hair. >> that was really four unless you count the hair as part of the antics. >> hair and standing up is one thing. dan, i want to you this question. never trump for you. you have some connection to the varying forces that constitute the never trump movement, fund donors. those folks are still out there. is there still a never trump movement? >> yes. i think there's some donors who will just sit on the sidelines and stay out of race entirely. there's some donors who are looking for ways to find a center right candidate to be on the stage. >> who are the names? >> i'm not going to mention names. >> not the names of the people involved but the kinds of people they might want to have run. >> i'll give you one name. ben sass is interesting. >> he said his kids need baths. >> the country hangs in the balance. we could use someone like him for next six months opinion. >> to win or to just make a point? >> t

he was pretty much a loner in the senate, operating with basically only mike lee of utah as a close friendwill change. john: answer me this. last night cruz's speech aimed towards the future. he talked about reagan, talked about a movement, clearly thinking about 2020. is ted cruz the kind of guy who can last another cycle and be the next in line with 2020 comes around? or is he rick santorum all over again? intriguingn cliffhanger in ted cruz's speech. he hinted and it -- at it another way candidates have not done. he talked about the ronald reagan speech in 1976, four years before he won. he is drawing these analogs. i think ted cruz is thinking about he has built his ground operation. he is only 45. he has 30 years to figure out how to be president. i think there's a good chance people expect him to try again. john: the million things that donald trump broke was coming he broke the notion of the republican party. santorum was next in line. not only did santorum not to the nomination, but another man. will beruz the guy that looks to buy the republican party if donald trump fails as the

supreme court justice thomas lee, he once clerked for justice clarence thomas, the brother of senator mike lee who has been mentioned as a possible supreme court pick and they're both the sons of former solicitor rex lee. texas supreme court justice don willett is on this list, he worked in the bush administration, not your typical jurist. he's got a very entertaining triter feed, several tweets in recent months aimed at mr. trump. including this one quote donald trump haiku. who would the donald name to scotus? the mind reels, weeps, can't finish tweet. well tonight justice willett find himself on that list, along with several other contenders, that come from states that could be key in the fall. that could be an important point are why some are on this list. >> shannon, thank you. >> did the trump move today releasing his supreme court wish list change the dynamics in unifying the gop? let's get thoughts from syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. what do you think? >> i think it will have a dramatic effect in doing that. one thing holding back people who have resisted supporting trump or

lee, i believe, is the brother -- i think he's the brother or some relation of mike lee who is a senatorom utah who is, you know, a tried and true conservative. he didn't just find these out of thin air. there's no question that this is something that he worked on to -- to as i said to answer the specific request in a private meeting with house republicans, the speaker himself saying, you know, prove it. now he's trying to prove it. >> so, again, if you're just joining us, we now officially have a list of 11 potential justices for the u.s. supreme court. these names specifically coming from the donald trump camp and to dana's precise point it's significant for a number of reasons, namely, that he followed through after perhaps suggestions given to him when he went to washington with his meeting with the speaker of the house and other members of the house of representatives, that this is a follow-through. that he listened and he's delivering. we're going to stay on this breaking news. quick commercial break. we're back after this. my belly pain and constipation? they keep telling me "drin

solid conservatives here but i'm confident with my own judgment but i would recommend people like mike lee, ted cruz, and chuck grassley and on the house side, people like franks, smith, and others that have been leading on these issues to vet these justices and i'd like to suggest that donald trump bring that kind of a committee together and seek their council on appointments. what does a trump presidency look like? there's a level of unease but they could make for a lot of concerns. >> on the issue of lgbt rights, you want to call a hearing on president obama's new guidelines for public schools to allow students to use the bathroom corresponding to their gender. i want to play something for you, one of your republican colleagues refer to congresswoman ileana. you know her well and what she said, she has a transgender child. listen to this. >> republicans and democrats, let's forget about the party labels and move ahead in the political dialogue and accept people for who they are and what qualities they bring to their job rather than artificial barriers like gender identity. >> that's her

paul manafort had a fleury of meetings with everyone from mike lee and republican chief of staffs whont senators. i'm told a republican aide actually asked donald trump's top adviser, said how are we going to deal with this impact down ticket? manafort said we want to do whatever we can to help your guys, whether that means if there's an issue that puts your guys in a different position, we'll avoid talking about that, and if you want to completely distance yourself from the trump campaign, by all means do that. and i was told that was actually received rather warmly. it really shows this effort to build some trust and relationship, ease tensions with the party establishment is paying some dividends. expect a lot more of that from paul manafort and the trump campaign in the coming days, guys. europe also in paul ryan, the house speaker's, press conference today and he was asked obviously probably every time about all of donald trump's issues, all his stances on issues. what did you hear from paul ryan today? >> well, he actually has not gone and actually endorsed donald trump of cours

he is the brother of senator mike lee, himself somebody who has been debated as somebody who could take a seat on the high court. they both clerked there. a very deep, rich history, judicial one in that family. and a conservative one as well. also texas supreme court justice don willett. he is a very interesting guy. he would be a younger appointee. and also has a ton of personality. as i mentioned a little bit earlier, he is somebody interesting to watch from a judicial framework, but also he's got one of the most hilarious twitter accounts that you'll ever follow. many funny things he does with his kids. not your typical supreme court nominee, but he's on the list today. >> thanks. more on this in a moment. >>> first democrats. while hillary clintons backers are spending millions of dollars on donald trump, bernie sanders keeps insisting he's not out of this fight. clinton about 100 delegates shy of the number needed to clench. that's after sanders' win in oregon. the associated press hasn't declared a winner there. either way, the math didn't really change at all and it's frankly not

if donald trump can go to the conservatives in his party with a vice presidential selection with mike lee for the supreme court with statements that make them believe and lay down their arms. but i'll tell you, right now, where are the people afraid to say what they really do believe and they show up on election day surprised. are there more anti-trump republicans than they are anti-clinton democrats. that is the big question. right now i think there are anti-trump republicans. >> i was thinking of the moderate republican women in the suburbs who may have a higher income than most people who think democrat, you might argue but they're saying wait a minute, i've been reading the paper and i don't like this guy's language. >> it was a devastating ads priorities put out. donald trump answered it brilliantly. >> he found the hole in it. >> found the hole in it and i think you'll see a lot of ivanka trump pretty soon. a lot of ivanka trump. she needs to be out there with her father speaking about how he creates opportunities for women because that is a huge gap like the millennial gap. so if -

surrogate team yesterday, which was god help us louis gohmert and carly fiorina and heidi cruz and mike lee. and outside of a slice of the evangelical vote, and not a very big slice anymore, there's no support for him in indiana right now. there's no reason to vote for the guy. you saw him today. this is diet who was the ivy league debating champion and he was arguing with a guy in fake oakley sunglasses and a fake weather-beaten sweatshirt whose entire riposte was, uh-uh! no! i expect to see ted cruz on a street corner outside ft. wayne with a sign saying "will debate for food." >> by the way, that was a biblical reference from charlie pierce, anyone who accuses us of being godless liberals. jesuit-educated michael steel knew. so this was the other thing. the question that cruz is going to play. right now i think you're seeing calculations about people's future in the party. i want to play you ted cruz and chuck todd going around and around on this question of the fundamental never trump question. that's the real thing that hangs the air right now, take a listen. >> if he's the nominee, i

what if mike lee and ted cruz's name popped up on the list? think that would be music to ted cruz's ears, right? ted cruz hits hard on this issue. you know? a very powerful ad talking about the skepticism. i think that will go a long way. >> do you remember one debate donald trump was talking about the lines, the lines became an issue. i interviewed him just before that debate and he went into detail about health care savings accounts and said it over and over again. every opponent said he kept referring to the canadian system, which, by the way he did. that is not on his website. >> look. since obamacare was signed into law in 2010, every time republican candidates run on repealing and replacing obamacare, they won in droves. in 2012, mitt romney couldn't make it an argument. if donald trump continues to make this argument, repeal, replace obamacare with patient-based and market-based solutions like the private accounts and so on, allowing insurance to be bought over state lines. >> portability. sure. >> he will win on that issue and might ev

thomas lee, once worked for justice clarence thomas on the supreme court and the brother of senator mike lee, somebody we heard mentioned as a possible supreme court justice nominee. they are both the sons of former solicitor general rex lee. by the way, interesting to note at least one of the folks we tracked down on the list today say they've never been contacted by the trump team, had no idea they were being considered or vetted in any way at all. neil? >> all right. thank withdrew veyou very, very. one justice in there probably regrets having tweeted not so fine things about donald trump and that is the texas supreme court justice don willett over the past year has said very unsavory, sometimes biting comments on mr. trump. i don't know why a justice would be tweeting, anyway, but anyway, he did. even though he did come out with these lists of names, i seriously doubt it was known when this list came out. i could be very, very long. fellow is an expert on all things legal and much, much more, our judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano. judge, what do you think of the list that you saw?

what if mike lee and ted cruz's name popped up on the list?would be music to ted cruz's ears, right? ted cruz hits hard on this issue. you know? a very powerful ad talking about the skepticism. i think that will go a long way. >> do you remember one debate donald trump was talking about the lines, the lines became an issue. i interviewed him just before that debate and he went into detail about health care savings accounts and said it over and over again. every opponent said he kept referring to the canadian system, which, by the way he did. that is not on his website. >> look. since obamacare was signed into law in 2010, every time republican candidates run on repealing and replacing obamacare, they won in droves. in 2012, mitt romney couldn't make it an argument. if donald trump continues to make this argument, repeal, replace obamacare with patient-based and market-based solutions like the private accounts and so on, allowing insurance to be bought over state lines. >> portability. sure. >> he will win on that issue and might even win on th

. >> what if mike lee and ted cruz's name popped up on that list?think that would be music to ted cruz's ears. he hit hard on this issue. >> very hard. >> releasing a very powerful ad about what the skepticism, of a trump nominee. >> remember the lines, the lines became an issue. i interviewed him before that debate, and he went into detail about health care savings accounts, and he said it over and over again, but on the campaign trail, every one of his opponents septemb opponents kept saying, oh, he kept referring to the canadian system, and he did, but that's what he was saying about going to health care savings accounts. >> every time republicans have run on repealing and replacing obamacare, they have won. mitt romney couldn't make it an argument. if donald trump continues to make that argument, repeal, replace obamacare and replace it with market-based solutions, private accounts, allowing insurance to be bought over state lines. >> job to job, portability. >> he will win on that issue, and might even win the presidency based on that issue alo

it's actually a good illustration, during the government shutdown i reached out and offered for mike lee and me to come over and sit down with the speaker and majority leader and boehner said no interest, no value, not willing to talk to you. i don't know him at all. what was interesting about boehner's comments is he praised hillary clinton, thinks she's terrific and praised donald trump, he's his friend and golfing buddy. donald trump and hillary clinton and john boehner are all -- they are the washington cartel. tgs the corruption of washington. and this isherewithal respect a lot of folks in the media don't understand. that's what people are ticked off at, donald pretending he's an outsider. they are the ultimate washington insiders and they have been enmeshed in the corruption. if you want a presidential candidate like john boehner, donald trump is candidate. i thought boehner was auditioning to be the vp candidate. >> if he's the nominee, i take you you can't support him any more, can you? >> i believe if the republican party nominates donald trump we'll lose to hillary. when we of

. >> i'm not sure, i was paying attention to the conservative blogs, mike lee of utah oh could have writtenhe had his brother on there. but the conservatives, they're looking at the list, they like the people on the list. the former bush administration lawyer, he liked the list allot. will trump follow-through. >> foreign policy seems to be one he continues to stumle. the kim jong-un, democrats pounced on it, his critics, who don't like him in the foreign policy wing pounlsced on it as well. he went to kissinger today, that's where it seems to be he has the most work to do. >> he has a lot of work to do. look where he gave his foreign policy speech, the center national interest magazine, came out of the nicxon. his instincts seem to be morrellistmorrele realistic. >> he is not a bush hawk. >> is that something he is willing to accept. >> i'm not sure if he'll be quoting bush 41s. >> you talk about it, reagan, kind of reagan restraint. it goes back to nixon. what alarms a lot of the community, he is just not one of them. if you came out of the "w" school, he is not your ally. >> what does he