where does mike lee get votes that mitch mcconnell can't? >> i think that comes down to the outcome of the election. if bannon is successful in getting these candidates in office, that scare republicans into going into a different direction? what we've seen is they have no fortitude, the insane things that donald trump say every day. they're not running free election who magically found courage now. so i don't have any faith that republicans are going to magically after an election where they might see major losses from fellow incumbents, stand up to an alt-right. >> mike lee is more of an obstructionist to donald trump. so if you're going to replace him with a bigger one, i would love to see it because mike lee is a pretty interesting guy. but it doesn't make sense. >> you also have a situation here, matt and curt points this out, that there are people like bob corker who are not running for re-election which has sort of freed them, but is there a lesson for somebody watching and seeing somebody like jeff flake to say there is no advantage

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host: senator mike lee, republican of utah and member of the judiciary committee, thanks for being with us on "newsmakers." senator lee: thank you. post let's turn to niels : lesniewski with regards to roy moore and the democratic candidate in that race. niels: if you talk to the democrats and chris van holland who is the senator from maryland who is heading up the democratic campaign committee, they certainly think this is more of an opening than it would have been if luther strange, the appointed incumbent senator were the one on the ballot in december when that election actually takes place. but it is certainly also true that the republican apparatus, the sort of establishment apparatus, people associated with mitch mcconnell were very quick to come in after moore clearly was going to win and after the polls closed and say they were backing him and encouraged every republican to back him because the majority is so tight anyway in the senate. so i'm not so sure about that. the other thing is, of course, whether or not this has longer lasting implications. where not sure yet but bob ,

. >> joining us on newsmakers this week is senator mike lee, republican of utah, a member of the senate judiciary committee and joining us with the uestioning is neil zaznuwsky and brett kendall. thanks for being with us. monday being the first monday in october, the start of a new term for the u.s. supreme court and the first full term for stice neil gorsuch who you confirmed in the hearings. what is ahead? >> a few interesting cases will be argued in the forthcoming term. one of them was just recently granted. the janice case involves this issue that was before the supreme court before justice scalia's death and deals with the ability to collect union dues from state employees without their willingness to do so, against their will. and it should be an interesting issue, an issue that was left pen. deadlocked 4-4. and the masterpiece cake shop involving a bakery owner charged by the colorado civil rights commission for refusing to decorate a specialty cake for a same-sex couple in connection with their wedding. both of those should be interesting as well as will b. whitford a wisconsin

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doesn't agree with what he's being asked to do than he should to do it.st >> we have the utah senator mike lee who was on the newsmakers program this past weekend and talked a little bit about the case.. here's a look. i feel this is a compelled speech case. the bakery owner was being asked to do something express of twoci engage in expressive conduct. in this circumstance he wasn't unwilling to do business with the same-sex couples. but he didn't want to do is use his expressive talent to make a specialty cake. he would have been happy to sell one off the shelf, but putting his talents to work in a unique way in this case. i think this case is more properly viewed involving heigthing caught compelled speech. there are-the standards when the government tries to compel someone to engage in speech or express themselves against theit own will. it's about the free speech rig right. the couple say that a ruling in favor of the baker in this case would be what they call a license to discriminate because it would allow people to circumvent antidiscrimination laws. >> host: here's what youro wrote, th

utah senator mike lee joins us now.ood to see you, sir. >> i liked your use of the quotes. >> shannon: my grandmother is watching. she is staying up late for this. by the way, let's play that quote. this comes from senator graham when asked about whether mueller should be in any kind of trouble. >> i have zero concern that mr. mueller is in jeopardy of losing his job. i see no reason for him to be dismissed and the only reason you could do it is for cause, and some effort to do it without a good reason, there would be holy hell to pay. to be and large i'm hearing that bronzed republicans are being supportive of mueller, saying let him do his job. >> i think senator graham is correct. there would be holy hell to pay politically. to speed when you said about one of the communities -- by the way, senator feinstein said that both the intel and judiciary communities, this proves that they need to continue their independent investigations. how is it going? >> there's a whole lot of investigations going on. i think they are ge

think about mike lee or rand paul those individuals are the kind of conservatives that mississippi expectseaking of mitch mcconnell just so you understand what is happening mitch mcconnell has been obstructing the agenda. he is a big part of the problem. to that point as far as records is concerns he has about a 48% with conservative voting. roger has only a 40% record. he is even more liberal than mitch mcconnell. i thought that was difficult to do. >> that was republican state senator chris mcdaniel talking to my colleagues. a quick look at the day. 43 afghan soldiers have been killed or severely wounded after two suicide bombers destroyed a military base in kandahar. several still missing. the telegram said they were behind the attack. the spanish government said they will start the process of stripping catalonia of their autonomous powers after the regional authorities refused to back down in their push for independence. eu leaders have expressed their support for the spanish government. >> president trump has given his administration 10 out of 10 for their response to hurricane rita w

with host: we have utah senator mike lee who clerked for justice alito and talked about this case. here's a look. >> i view this as a compelled speech case. the bakery owner here was being asked to do something expressive, to engage in expressive conduct that the cake bake anywhere this circumstance was not unwilling in any respect to do business with same sex couples. what he didn't want to do was to use his expressive talents to make a specialty cake in this circumstance. he would have been happy to ell one off the shelf. wasn't inclined to participate wedding by putting his talents to work in a unique case. so in that respect i think this case is more properly viewed as something involving compelled speech. there are, as you know, heightened standards that apply when the government is trying to compel someone to engage in speech or to express themselves against their own will. host: a wedding by putting his compelled speech case ique he says. guest: right. it's about the free speech, at least the lawyers for the baker say it's about his free speech rights. but the lawyers for th

with host: we have utah senator mike lee who clerked for justice alito and talked about this case. here's a look. >> i view this as a compelled speech case. the bakery owner here was being asked to do something expressive, to engage in expressive conduct that the cake bake anywhere this circumstance was not unwilling in any respect to do business with same sex couples. what he didn't want to do was to use his expressive talents to make a specialty cake in this circumstance. he would have been happy to ell one off the shelf. wasn't inclined to participate wedding by putting his talents to work in a unique case. so in that respect i think this case is more properly viewed as something involving compelled speech. there are, as you know, heightened standards that apply when the government is trying to compel someone to engage in speech or to express themselves against their own will. host: a wedding by putting his compelled speech case ique he says. guest: right. it's about the free speech, at least the lawyers for the baker say it's about his free speech rights. but the lawyers for th

. >> we have utah senator mike lee who clerked for justice alito and he talked about this case. here's a look. >> i view this as a compelled escape case. the bakery owner was being asked to do something expressive condt engage in expressionsive conduct. the cake baker was not unwilling in any respect to do business with same-sex couples. what he didn't want to do was to use his expressive talents to make a specialty cake in this circumstance. he would have been happy to selh one off the shelf. wasn't inclined to participate in the wedding by putting his expressive talents to work for a unique way in this case inch that respect, think this case is more properly viewed as something involving compelled speech. there are, as you know,ing highenned standards that applynd when the government is trying to compel someone to engage in speech or to express themselves against their own will. >> lawrence hurley, compelled speech case. >> exactly. about the free speech, the lawyers of the bakers say it's about hit free speech rights.ee this lawyers for the gay couple say that a ruling in fav

. >> joining us on newsmakers this week is senator mike lee, republican of utah, a member of the senateudiciary committee. and joining us with the questioning is neils lesniewski , who covers congress for cq roll call, and reporter for the wall street journal brent kendall. senator, muddying the first monday in the start of a new octo t

lee, senator mike republican of utah, our guest on newsmakers. check out our free c-span radio app.e want to welcome back author and columnist cal thomas. thank you for being with us. guest: thank you, steve. good to see you again. host: it is another nfl sunday. initially, your thoughts, has this become an issue of patriotism or race in america? guest: we never get to the heart of the problem, granted i don't think there is

in this valley of decision, it's not about mark meadows, donald trump, ted cruz, mike lee and the greatders of the conservative movement. the burden is on you. the burden is on your shoulders. on the morning of november 8, i told the president, i got in there in august when he was 16 points down. no money. not a lot of organization. i said, if we pull this thing together, 100% metaphysical certitude you will win. on billy bush saturday, everyone was jumping ship. no one is making justifications for what the president he said, including the president. i told him, 100% metaphysical certitude you will win. folks are looking for change in this country. they are looking to take their country back, and you are the vehicle and instrument that is going to do it. they don't care about locker room talk. because we are going to bring to that debate the women that will you jefferson clinton attacked and his wife covered for him. we're going to let the american people decide between your words and his action. that is why i am a street fighter. i am about winning. you know why? we have to win. this n

professor brian and former ohio senate democrat minority leader, former chief of staff to senator mike lee to madison. thank you for joining us very early. i will start with you. do you think he is right? can they get tax reform done and is it imperative that they do so? >> it is imperative for a number of reasons, politically for the gop, they control both chambers of commerce in addition to the white house and republicans all across the country looking to hold members of congress accountable if they don't come through on them kind of legislative victory which they have not been successful with particularly when you look at repeal and replace obamacare. the economy has been coming along well under the assumption tax reform is going to happen. interesting to see if steve bannon decides to wage a war in primaries. heather: specifically 240 house republicans are up for reelection, we have 7 senate republicans up for reelection and one open seat in 2018. do they stand to lose if they can't get work done? >> they have shown time and again they can't come together to actually govern and that is

you are working with mike lee for a major expansion of the child tax credit as part of this overall reform. what is included and what are you going to do? >> if we don't make it refundable against payroll packs, the middle class will have a tax increase. not break even or a tax cut. the president is not going to sign a tax increase on working families. that bill wouldn't pass. we either put at this time in and it passes or it doesn't get in and it won't pass or he will veto it. i know it's going to happen. we have to make sure it's crafted appropriately. >> will you support changes in the 401(k)s tax deductions as far as retirement plans which are very popular with the middle class? >> i'm not sure that's a serious proposal or something they are floating just to see what the public reaction to it is. there is a litany of what they call tax treatments within the code that added about $4 trillion. there is a let of them. that's one of hundreds and hundreds of items that people are discussing. i don't think they settled on anything like that. we will see the entire package. i promgs you this.

it's republicans like mike lee, rand paul, ted cruz. the list goes on. democrats most of egregious in this area is kamala harris. she is awful when it comes to civil asset forfeiture. >> it's lazy. go get a criminal conviction and prosecute in a court of law. kennedy: then the process you have to go through to get your stuff back. >> this makes her job easier. kat: i don't think people just are deciding not to get it back because they went through such a wonderful experience and want the government to have it. kennedy: the process you have to go through and the expense. anthony, lawrence and kat, thank you for being here. coming up, the president pant congressional republicans want to final size a budget. the gop budget plan would increase the deficit by $1.5 trillion. what's the libertarian solution in we'll talk about that next. who use their expertise to keep those businesses covered. and here's to the heroes behind the heroes behind the heroes, who brought us delicious gyros. actually, the gyro hero owns vero's gyros, so he should have been with thos

utah, wyoming, boyd matheson, chief of staff for mike lee, said that he will set up an exploratory committee north carolina? >> we're going to mississippi. >> sean: mcdaniel? >> these names will all come out over the next several weeks. >> sean: i know people didn't like delaware in 2010. i thought o'donnell was a nice woman, but you are picking rock-solid, credentialed candidates. >> we're spending a lot of time to make sure that people are fully vetted. you will see people with experience. 2010 was the beginning of the tea party. you will see real candidates and they will take on incumbents in every state. >> sean: you set on "60 minutes" you are a street fighter. i am, too. i'm not supporting any republican incumbent that hasn't gotten their job done. they've betrayed the american people. how do you make a promise for 7 1/2 years and not fulfill it? it's a lack of sense of urgency. >> these guys work three days a week. we have people in america working two jobs, wives working two jobs. the economic hate crimes perpetuated on the working men and women of this country because of the trade d

>> i'd like to see mike lee, maybe rand paul. that's not the way d.c. works.these guys have to wait their turn. but they are at least talking about conservative ideas. they are at least championing the conservative cause. roger wicker is a mcconnell "yes" man and he's hardly a conservative. his score is a 48. that's better than wicker but not what we need in the united states senate and that's precisely what mississippi has said. mississippi expects conservatives to fight for us in the senate. not to go up there and rubber stamp anything mitch mcconnell says. right now we consider mitch mcconnell part of the problem. >> senator chris mcdaniel, if you have not decided that you are running, it certainly sounds as if you have done your homework in preparation for a potential run coming up. thank you so much for your time, sir. we have to leave it there. >> thank you very much for having me. >> thanks for coming. >>> when we come back, hurricanes, wildfires and the las vegas mass shooting. with all of those big stories, other really important ones have been pushed

the chief of staff for mike lee said he will set up an exploratory committee. in north dakota. in mississippi. >> sean: mcdaniel. >> these names will come out over the next several weeks. >> sean: i know a lot of people didn't like in 2010 for example, delaware. i thought christine o'donnell was a nice woman. you are picking the rock-solid rock-solid -- >> the grassroots organizations. u.s. people announced this week what they will have experience in government. it's not like 2010. it was the beginning of the tea party went things were first getting going. they will take on incumbents in every state. >> sean: you said in a 60 minutes interview that you are a street fighter. i am a street fighter. i'm not supporting any republican incumbent that hasn't gotten the job done. not one, steve. i've refused. they've betrayed the american people. they betrayed their promises. how do you make a promise for seven and a half years and not fulfill it? >> it's a lack of sense of urgency. their wives are working two jobs, they are working two jobs, they know the economic hate crimes that are

>> i'd like to see mike lee, maybe rand paul. that's not the way d.c. works.hese guys have to wait their turn. but they are at least talking about conservative ideas. they are at least championing the conservative cause. roger wicker is a mcconnell "yes" man and he's hardly a conservative. his score is a 48. that's better than wicker but not what we need in the united states senate and that's precisely what mississippi has said. mississippi expects conservatives to fight for us in the senate. not to go up there and rubber stamp anything mitch mcconnell says. right now we consider mitch mcconnell part of the problem. >> senator chris mcdaniel, if you have not decided that you are running, it certainly sounds as if you have done your homework in preparation for a potential run coming up. thank you so much for your time, sir. we have to leave it there. >> thank you very much for having me. >> thanks for coming. >>> when we come back, hurricanes, wildfires and the las vegas mass shooting. with all of those big stories, other really important ones have been pushed

now you've got senator marco rubio and mike lee already proposing to double the child tax credit which could really through a spanner in the bill, it completely disrupts the calculations they've made to make the bill work out all right. i would say that's just the beginning in the senate and it's going to be a real test for the republicans to see if they can get the senators to pass tax legislation. >> what's wrong with this child tax credit proposal? >> well, we don't know much about it yet, the current tax credit is a thousand dollars and it is refundable and -- paul: which means? >> basically if you have no tax liability you get a check. that's what it will be whenever we are done with this political commerce, more spending through the tax code. paul: also very expensive, as you're talking a trillion dollars again in payout to people who have children, a form of redistribution throw the tax code. >> right, straight subsidy. prevents you from deeper rate cut that is produce the economic growth that parents and families want. >> and the problem as kate has layed out is that politicall

and paxton and utah senator mike lee are on. >> we are looking forward to that tomorrow night on fox news channel. it's been a while since north korea testfired one of their missiles and in fact not since president up about to the united nations to destroy north korea if it attacked. some are asking is the president top talk strategy actually now working with kim jong-un in. plus, that tax reform bill was supposed to be unveiled on wednesday on capitol hill but will there be enough in it to convince publicans who are critical of the bill to vote for it? we will break it all down tonight as you watch fox news channel with the latest coming up. >> the house and took up the senate budget so we could move two weeks faster to get tax moving. we have the criteria and we wanted to be simple and we wanted to be progrowth and we want to help the hard-working americans.ch ♪ ms chewy bites. eric: the head of puerto rico's government power company says it will scrap the controversial printer million dollar contract with the montana -based whitefish energy holdings. once it finishes the current w

something mike lee talks about. there is a parent penalty.t social security, we want medicare. who pays for that? today's workers pay for today's retirees. when i retire, tomorrow's workers pay for medicare and social security. if i have four children and another has no children and i retire, i spent a quarter of a million dollars per child to raise four taxpayers for your retirement and you have no children. the tax code should account for that. the 2,000-dollars per child doesn't come close to making up the gap. it accounts for increase, most certainly a way to help families move ahead. if we don't do the child tax credit, don't make it refundable, you will see middle-class families get tax increases. the president will not sign that, people will not support a middle tax increase. it won't pass. neil: you think it opens up very best of intentions, senator, but slippery slope we end up giving tax breaks to those -- you're quite right, they pay fica related taxes. they don't pay federal income taxes but we're in battle to provide for those no

senator mike lee is going to join us. he's one of -- on one of the senate committees.e has said the white house and the president have been very cooperative, so we will ask him tonight about whether that continues to be the case and where those senate investigations go. >> bret: i will be there too. >> yes, bret baier will join us. we can't wait. >> bret: up next, another week and another nfl protest. this one for a very different reason. here's what some of our fox affiliates on the coverage covering. we fox 11 in los angeles. kevin spacey has apologized for rapp, publicly announcing he is gay. in baltimore, a disciplinary trial. the officer was the driver of the police van that transported freddy gray the day he suffered deadly spinal cord injuries. live look at new york from fox 5. the big story there, hundreds of thousands lose power as a storm ripped through the northeast, wind gusts more than 70 miles per hour. downed trees and power lines. flash flooding also reported in some areas as it moves through. that's tonight's live look outside the beltway from "special

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something that mike lee talks about, there's a parent penalty. so all of us, when we retire, we want social security and medicare. who pays for that? today's workers pay for today's retirees. if i have four children and someone has no children and we both retire, i just spent basically $250,000 per child to race four taxpayers that will pay for your retirement and you have no children. the tax code should account for that. the $2,000 doesn't come close to making up for the gap but it accounts for the increase and is a way to help families move ahead. by the way, if we don't do the child tax credit and we don't make it refundable, you'll see middle class families get tax increases and the president won't seen that. people won't support a middle class tax increase. it won't pass. >> neil: you think it opens up with the best intention but a slippery slope where we give tax breaks to those that don't necessarily -- you're right. they pay fica and related taxes but not federal income taxes. so we're in a battle to provide benefits to those that are no

we have senator mike lee to talk about the russian investigations continue on the hill.d debate about this case out of texas, illegal minor crossed over into the u.s. and wanted to get an abortion. the aclu, the naral on one side versus the attorney general ken paxton. both of those folks joining us live tonight to debate that. >> tucker: shannon bream not only super nice but super smart. you are going to kill it i'm going to watch. i will be home. shannon bream. first episode fox news tonight debuts. laura ingraham launches too at 10:00. it's going to be fantastic. she interviewed white house chief of staff john kelly for tonight's show. good luck to them both. not that they need it. good night from washington. sean hannity is next from new york have. a good night. >> thanks, tucker. good night to shannon and laura tonight. we have more of that in a little while. you do not want to miss a minute of tonight's show. welcome to hannity. this is a fox news alert. this may be one of the most important monologues i will ever give on this show. tonight we have a major crisis i

we talked about mike lee, rand paul, ted cruz, we don't have enough voices like that in congress right. what you teach your kids? when you have an opponent, when things are difficult, just quit. no. if my girls are going to a gymnastics meet and they were going to compete against homeschool girls are trained twice as much as they did, what i say stay in the car, let's go to mcdonald's and get make flurries because you're never going to win so let's just quit? absolutely not. that's the issue that i take with that. >> sandra: is in their reason to take issue with the media that in that line of questionin questioning, you just thought it didn't bring up the fact that he was looking at incredibly low approval ratings and suggesting that possibly there was some other reason why he chose to retire? >> lisa: a tough primary and a tough general election as well. i've seen people be critical of him and pointing to people like rob portman are pointing to people like senator john mccain who were able to win their reelection battles in 2016 without being the president's biggest cheerleaders durin

he joins senators ted cruz, mike lee and rand paul in endorsing moore? what do you make?ot together? >> this is a problem for republicans because if roy moore is elected he's going to say some controversial things and a reporter is going to go to every republican senator do you agree with him. on health care if they were united they would have pad that bill. they didn't. mitch mcconnell said earlier this year if we unite, we win, and they haven't been able to unite. >> 50 to 52. i remember the ronald reagan phrase, the 11th commandment, speak no ooel of a fellow republican. >> if you're a republican who is facing a primary in 2018, i think you keep your mouth closed. because the people who show up for republican primaries are the trump base, are the far right wing of the republican party. now, elected in a general election, that we don't know yet. >> now for something on the lighter side. for kimberly in the spirit of halloween, president trump met today with the children of white house press corps people. let's watch that enter mingling. >> i cannot believe the media pro

marco rubio, ben sasse, mike lee, these are all people that mitch mcconnell worked against. now the future, the young guys, the stable of the future republican senate. he is this much right, but he has this much wrong. >> melissa: richard, if they do get passed to the primary opposition, they are that much stronger. you end up with a very strong candidate if they happens win, do you agree with that? that's what kevin said. >> i think the republican party is an interesting conundrum, you have the republican voters in 2016, recently a couple of weeks ago in alabama have made it clear that steve bannon and donald trump are the head of their party. they did it in the primary election by knocking out a couple of dozen contenders and saying that donald trump is a party. donald trump picked steve bannon as the chairman of his campaign. they have taken the party forward. they elected roy moore as their nominee for the senate race there. so it is very clear that steve bannon is ahead of this party, and donald trump is also the leader of the party. and they are the ones taking it forw

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mike lee, ted cruz, rand paul.mmon, mitch mcconnell opposed them before they became u.s. senators. they have outsized presences in the republican party and all ran for president. when you kind of assess this, what you should assess is that mitch mcconnell is sort of desperately trying to hold on to some power here. conservatives are upset at him, rightfully some there are lot of legislative achievements when you have a senate, white house, all congress and they have a lot of blame that they lay at must have mitch peace feet. connell: the enthusiasm is on steve bannon on his side, don't you think. >> anti-establishment enthusiasm is undoubt the lid why donald trump is president of the united states. why you have seen so much discontent not only from the base and president himself this year as he challenged senate to change rules for instance, in order to get legislation passed. connell: we've seen it on the other side, think about a democratic centrist that existed in either party, a lot of people think about joe ma

collins, mccain, rand paul, mike lee, and even marco rubio has expressed some concerns about this willl realize it would be catastrophe if they don't pass something. >> charles: and of course the irony is they balance each other out, right because you've got three who oppose it for almost the reasons the other three oppose it and again, someone's got to step in and say to someone that you've got to make a decision beyond this ideology. >> there's supposed to be an entire infrastructure in the senate to maneuver these individuals. we've not seen that again unless senator mcconnell has liked the procedure so far which would be unfortunate. but i do like that the president has ruled this out properly a great pr campaign meeting with senator mcconnell is helpful. >> charles: emily that's a critical point, but president trump, he is really invested in this big time. he's traveled to different states, appealed to the american public and i believe ultimately he's the one who has to drag this across the finish line because i believe the gop just given up to themselves are incapable of doing it

i'm joined by boyd masterson, a former chief of staff to mike lee.n for the senate again? >> thinking about it right now. we've got a number of people from the trump loyalists to people who were the never trumpers. i might have found the one thing that unites them all. it's the frustration and disdain with the united states senate. things aren't getting done. to me it's all about -- >> boyd, you seem like you know your stuff. are you expecting the people who watch this show right now to believe that you're sort of waiting for the people to tell you to run? i remember student council races where guys who always ran would say a bunch of the guys got together and thought i should run. that's not the way it works. >> i agree. >> do you have the ego and the ambition toation on orrin hatch? do you have the stuff, first of all? do you have the stuff? >> first of all -- >> do you have the stuff to take him on. that's a simple question. >> yes. absolutely. >> what do you mean by that? >> the question to me -- you know this is a former chief of staff playing t

. >> you've got some interesting things that senator mike lee and marco rubio from florida have beennd the white house on in terms of the child tax credit. that may be the only thing standing between hard-working american families and some pretty brutal things inside of the bill, but we'll see tomorrow. liz: that distresses me because you are a republican and have worked for a republican senator. [laughter] you've been on the inside of -- chris hahn, i was expecting a fight here. [laughter] i'm guessing you agree. >> i mean, basically, he just said everything i was going to stay. [laughter] -- say. there are a lot of things in that bill that are going to have to come out of that bill before it passes. thanksgiving is three weeks and two days from today. i don't know why the president thinks that's going to happen if he wants to completely change tax policy in america in three weeks. he might be able to get it new the house in three weeks, but the senate tends to take some time, as i'm sure my colleague will tell you. >> yeah: >> they like to take it slow there, and there are a lot of

kennedy: tim collins and mike lee do not belong to the same party. they don't fit the same word republican. now, speaking of flesh, a little bit later on, first up, democratic senator dianne feinstein just weighed in on the las vegas shooting and our nation's current gun laws. and for a california liberal, her stance may surprise you. watch. >> could there have been any law passed that would have stopped him? >> no. he passed background checks registering for handguns and other weapons on multiple occasions. kennedy: well, then this morning, feinstein announced that she was running for reelection and quote ending gun violence as one of the reasons for doing so. but left solutions of whether gun violence works. and joining me now, fox news contributor, katie. so she admitted herself that there are no laws that could have been passed prior to this that would have stopped a psychotic, cold-blooded killer like steven paddock. >> which makes the left's argument surrounding this particular issue and issues in the past when we have these tragic mass shootin

fox news at night, and shannon's guests will be texas attorney general ken paxton and utah senator mike leeo new shows start tomorrow night right here. how about that? arthel: how about that? meanwhile, a pivotal moment in the russia investigation could be only hours away with an arrest possibly coming tomorrow. where does robert mueller's probe go now? we'll discuss that. >>> plus, a somber tribute in northern california as a community remembers the dozens of lives lost in those devastating wildfires. how the victims are being honored, still ahead. >> to the 42 people that lost their lives and the family members that are affected, this will truly change us forever, and we must always remember these great folks. ♪ ♪ these friends were on a trip when their windshield got chipped. so they scheduled at safelite.com. they didn't have to change their plans or worry about a thing. i'll see you all in a little bit. and i fixed it right away with a strong repair they can trust. plus, with most insurance a safelite repair is no cost to you. >> customer: really?! >> tech: being there whenever you nee

but first, republican senators jeff flake of arizona and mike lee of utah are demanding that puerto rico be made permanently exempt from the jones act, a 1920 law that has complicated efforts to send supplies to the hurricane-ravaged island. all of this comes as president trump said on thursday his administration deserves a "10 out of 10" for i i response e to the ongoinhumamanitarian c criss in puerto rico. pres. trump: i think w we've doe a really great job and we've had tremendous corporation from the governor. we are getting there. people are releasing the effort that is been put into puerto rico. it is been a very, very difficult situation for many people. middleright through the of the island. right through the middle of puerto rico. there's never been anything like that. i give ourselves a 10. amy: puerto rico is saddled with a $73 billion debt and now faces an estimated $95 billion in storm-related damage. many are now questioning what the recovery effort will look like -- who will benefit and who will be left out. in a new piece for the intercept, puerto rican activist elizabeth

can change their minds about things, can compromise but also a number of other people like senator mike lee from utahed are voluntary cautah ed advocating a larger child tax credit. the plan as written according to the tax policy center would lead to more than $2 trillion in deficit increases. you have people saying they want to give out new goodies, you have people who want a bigger child credit, you need to take stuff away to fit things in the box. so that's going to be the really hard political part, making those decisions about who wins and who loses and that's what i think makes it really difficult to actually get a tax reform done, if you did the plan as it is now, you have 25% of american families actually paying more taxes than under current law by 2026. that would be very unpopular, the changes you have to make to avoid that unpopularity. >> the way this will potentially squeeze 401(k) plans, that will be a huge discussion point. your concerns as well on this? >> i think they're trying to thread a very thin needle here. passed with the thinnest of margins, the budget before we get

in this valley of decision, it's not about mark meadows, donald andp, ted cruz, mike lee the great leadersthe conservative moment -- movement. the burden is on you. the burden is on your shoulders. 8, ie morning of november , i got inresident there in august when he was 16 points down. no money. not a lot of organization. thing, if we pull this together, 100% metaphysical certitude you will win. on billy bush saturday, everyone was jumping ship. no one is making justifications for what the president he said, including the president. i told him, 100% metaphysical certitude you will win. folks are looking for change in this country. they are looking to take their country back, and you are the vehicle and instrument that is going to do it. they don't care about locker room talk. because we are going to bring to that debate the women that will you jefferson clinton attacked and his wife covered for him. we're going to let the american people decide between your words and his action. that's why i am mystified her. i am about winning. you know why? we have to win. this next 15, 20 years, and i w