mike lundell famous conspiracy theorist. conspiracy nonsense about january 6th. so we've seen it time and again juliet. there's a connection. but why can't we figure out the connection before the violence happens. >> because there are nurtures of this type of violence coming from leadership of the gop. the person that's likely to get the nomination. donald trump. uses the language of fighting. he targets people. we don't have to be shy about it. we don't have to do both side. let's be clear about this. there's violence that is directed and nurtured. and that's denied, supported or embraced. and there's people who say that's just trump or whatever. especially from people of his party. that's actually helpful for the radicalization because there's no shaming. >> but would the shaming help. >> imagine that world in which the party shunned the violence. it would be a totally different world. and yes, there's going to be outliars. there's going to be people who are still violent but they're not going to be supported by an apparatus that gives them legit legitimacy and