that's cross live to form a patent gun security policy on this is mike maloof. michael is, i'm happy you could just be right now. these are the troops read at the biggest hospital in the gaza strip, say again, was being used by him as, as a command center. now i wonder how are you interpreting this allegations a well, it's just an assessment. and if the united states claims that it's uh, got independent information based upon a has their own independent assessment. the only place that could have come from was the x ray was and, and even then i don't think they know for sure. and besides that, uh, as your previous person pointed out, they have the places to everywhere and it's multi layered tunnels. i might add and if they, if there was any come in center. yeah. it could have moved it by now because of all the publicity and m. m. and even if the israelis themselves to go down there to make sure that they've got that they can flush out almost militants. it's gonna be very, very tricky in long, laborious it's gonna be very difficult to flush any of them out any tim

and the office of the secretary of defense, who better to talk to the mr. maloof is so good to have it on the program today. mike, thanks for coming on so quickly as well. it's a hell of a story this, you know, spooky tales from the united states have put in a mean to take over europe or washington's funds for key of keep guessing small uh seems to be a bit of a contradiction and to understand what are your thoughts on this as well, my thoughts are quite a few. number one, there is no indication that the president putting has designs on taking on europe. it's it's, it's that old scenario. well, if we don't do it here, it's going to be like hitler taking over the rest of your and we say no indication of that. in fact, just the opposite. number 2, i think that lloyd austin's efforts are an attempt to try and reinvigorate nato number one, but number 2, to try to keep the spotlights of the public relations spotlight on ukraine in light of the this really come us more because that is sapping a lot of our funds and available stockpiles and, and it's, it's, it's an open acknowledgment even by i missed as a wednesday of