some people -- mike milken got caught up in the crisis. it made money off of takeovers, traded on inside information, one of the most aggressive to use on mall street. one thing -- and you know, i hesitate to admit it, but it did know him personally. and even work with them. you will go any farther than that, but not on wall street investments. he would it make, like many of these people were created these fantasies about the good that there were doing in america, he would've meant that what he did was against the law. he was calling to iraq. pled guilty. a lot of commentators, smart people said that's what brought him down as novel brought him down. he was going down anyway because he is making bad loans. where was washington? no where to be found. paul volcker was a little bit worried. financing of these takeovers. these huge takeovers. an absurd crisis. who benefited? wall street. they had a little piece of the action every time the takeover price of up. they got a bigger piece. they made fortunes, leveraged buyouts. some of them. peopl