mike miller: my name's mike miller.versity of california davis, and this is my genetics lab. my goal as a geneticist is to use genetics to improve conservation outcomes for threatened and endangered species. we've probably worked on more species than just about anyone else on the planet. we've been pretty interested in the genetic basis of migration characteristics, and we've worked on that in a number of species from, you know, monarch butterflies to pacific salmon. in many ways, the application of genetics to issues in conservation have been pioneered in salmon for the last 50 years. salmon are always at the forefront of how to use genetics in the most efficient way to help conserve species. and one of the reasons is that many salmon populations are threatened or endangered or are already extinct. and over the last 20 years, as methods within genetics have changed, and some of these methods are methods that i was involved in developing, it became possible to really do high resolution genetic analysis of virtually any

>> the way i look at it, mike, tim miller was on the show yesterday and he referred to the fact-based. it's part of a fact-based community in america. i still look at that ruling yesterday -- i mean, i heard everything danny said, all the qualifications about what giuliani wasn't admitting to, but the truth is that giuliani did not -- he's not objecting to what these women are saying he's done, and that is a win for the fact-based community. that is a win for truth, and i mean, i look at it, yes, mike. i guess at some level, giuliani may skate on this, but democracy, you know, if you step all the way back as i know you do, democracy has been under a major stress test for the last eight years that trump has been apart of our political system and now is the accountability phase in the justice, you know, with criminal justice in these civil cases as well, and, you know, trump is being held accountable, like, we may get another indictment today. we've already had one federal indictment. we have had the new york indictment. giuliani had to back off on his statements. you saw mark meadows y

dozens of witnesses from current and former members of trump's circle including mike pence, steve bannon, and stephen milleris nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian and paul butler, former federal prosecutor and professor at the georgetown school of law, he is an msnbc legal analyst. what else does this analysis tell us about the scope of the special counsel's focus here? >> good morning, jose. it shows that this a far reaching, sprawling investigation into any efforts to thwart the lawful transfer of power, which is the other mandate of special counsel jack smith, in addition to investigating the classied documents. we just chronicled that dozens of witnesses who have traukd to prosecutors, everybody from low level state officials who were pressured or higher level state officials like brad raffensperger the secretary of state of georgia and rusty bowers to members of the trump team to secret service agents to as you said, former vice president mike pence. when you look at it, it appears that jack smith is investigating this case as a expertise to thwart a lawful transfer of power. w

>> the way i look at it, mike, i saw tim miller was on the show and he referred to the fact based community, i still think the show -- that's a good way to describe the show, the fact based community in america. i still look at that ruling yesterday, i heard everything danny said to qualifications about what giuliani wasn't admitting to, but the truth is that giuliani is not objecting to what these women are saying, and that is a win for the fact based community. that is a win for truth. i mean, i look at it yes, mike, in some level, giuliani may skate on this but democracy, you step all the way back as i know you do, democracy has been under a major stress test over the last eight years that trump has been part of a political system. now it is the accountability phase in the justice, with a criminal justice and the civil cases as well. you know, trump is being held accountable, we make another indictment today, we've had one federal indictment, we've had two new york indictment, giuliani had the back off on his statements you saw mark meadows yesterday say not wanting to talk about january

mike valorio, cnn, california. >> we are now joined by cnn meteorologist brandon miller. so when can people expect to experience some relief in any way? >> and it's not just the people in the west with the heat, people all over the country are suffering the impacts of this heat dome. the heat dome we've been talking about for weeks on end. i'll draw you a little picture. this is the high pressure, this is the heat dome, centered here over the four corners. and from that high pressure, you get winds coming from the south that are getting hot, dry air, baking the southwest, even during the hottest times of the year, making it 5, 10, 15 degrees hotter. and on the north side of that, you get cooler winds, coming down from canada. now, the unfortunate part there, they are bringing smoke from the unprecedented california wildfires and blanketing parts of the upper midwest and the northern plains with smoke. this morning, we have about 60 million people under air quality alerts for that smoke. you also have, as this colder air and these fronts meet the moisture coming from the a

son-in-law, jared kushner, people like hope hicks, stephen miller who he was on the phone with discussing what he would say on the ellipse and mikee this all together and put it on top of what the special council's office has also been confirmed to be looking at. these state officials they've talked to across seven battleground states where trump had fake electors and was trying to send people out in different ways or put pressure there. all of that together, john, is quite the investigation. we'll see what's in the charges ultimately, but they have a lot to work with. >> katelyn, very quickly, if donald trump was given days to appear which no one expects him to do, when would that put the earliest day for a possible indictment? do we even know? would it be friday? >> that sounds like it could be a possibility. also thursday could be a possibility. we don't know if there is a deadline when he needed to inform the justice department, but yes, we do know that there will be grand jury activity on thursday and there has already been some this week. things could happen very fast. john? >> very quickly potentially. thank you. >>> joini

mike, if you're out there watching, which we hope and think you are. thank you for all of the work. you do. he is also a senior fellow here at the miller center. so with that over to you, barbara. great. thank you so much, bill. we have just marked eight years of bill's tenure here as the director and ceo of, the miller center and so he's served the equivalent of two presidential terms. and we hope, unlike presidents, that he can carry on with at least one more term, maybe get up to the fdr mark. we also want to thank him so much for, his interest in oral history and joining us frequently, in fact, this week we did an oral history for the obama project that we're now into. and bill joined us with that particular person he has known over years. and it's really makes all the difference the world for russell and me to have, who knows the person that we're interviewing. so thank you to bill and thanks so many of you here in the audience in person we have a full house today well as online and with c-span, many of you support the work of the miller center that is varied and particularly for those of you who support presidential studies and our recor