and, finally, mike morris, the ceo of american electric power is going to be co-leading our work on energy policy a long with fred smith from fedex. so thanks to each of you for what you're doing, your leadership. second point, this issue came up a couple times in conversation. i think tony raised a. if members of congress feel that they have now to raise more money to protect themselves from outside groups, at the same time they say they don't like a system, why don't they fix it? they can do it. they can do it immediately. third point, ced is back in again. as fred mentioned. and we're going to look forward to continuing and deepening the relationship we have with each other partners that we've had for many, many years. and forth, what are we going to do about it? first we're going to continue the campaign around the company, excuse me, around the country. we want more companies to do exactly what these three leading company's are doing and i would point out that the statement that charles made about no money going to state courts, that is extremely important. if more companies in this c

morris. caller: couple of questions. medicare, durable medical equipment, would eliminate a lot of the fraud. many years ago, when george bush was president, mikeevitt, head of hhs, wrote a piece about this, durable medical equipment. he was talking about oxygen concentrators. you can buy one for cash, $600, and medicare pays $200 a month for a three-year lease, and it still has not been fixed. address thesebody issues? is outrageous. guest: two interesting points. first, the one related to managed care, medicare advantage -- there has been a lot of analysis of whether the managed- care model is more cost- effective. much to the surprise of many, it does not save the medicare program much money. i don't agree have found a silver bullet yet, although we will keep looking for it. the other example of using -- the other issue of using the oxygen concentrator, for example, is that certain amount of money paid for something that if you went into a drugstore you could buy for a whole lot less. some of that is the antiquated way we price for services. some of that, to be very frank, is the powerful lobby in washington to make sure the status quo remai

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