okay, mike nichols, the movie. we all want to know did he come to you and say, i want you to do the movie? did you go to him? how did the movie come about? >> we had nothing to do with each other at that point. movies are made and decided by people in california that none of us knows. [laughter] in this case those we don't know were infiltrated by a very close friend of mine whom i'd known in new york when my partner and i were comedians and who my grated to -- migrated to california roughly around -- [laughter] you're fired. >> oh, my god. >> thank god you weren't in the audience. >> oh, my god. go ahead. >> nicely handled. >> i'm sorry. >> no, i've forgotten everything i was saying. >> john talley. >> joe heller, what's that book? something happened, right. >> so tell us how the movie got made. >> so he was working for this unfortunate person in california, and they were making not good movies. but he was in hollywood, this old pal of mine, and he came, and he said for me it was right after my second movie, it wa

novel is true the universal even though it did not hit in the year times best-seller list until mike nichols made into a movie nine years later at which point* it sold 1 million copies in six weeks. but among his many admirers was bertrand russell the british philosopher, i am for peace type of guy. soto is visiting england and corresponding with the russell and he said by all means you must come out to visit me. geo arias and knocks on the door to announce to himself word -- whereas russell flies into a red-faced raging and began screaming at him saying get at -- go way, i get out of here, horrible man, i get away so he fled and he was in the car looking for did your shift when bertrand russell butler came running out no, no, no. is okay he said you were edward teller. [laughter] >> host: perfect. we will turn the questions to the audience in one minute. i have a final question from me. when joe heller wrote to "catch-22" one flew over the cuckoo's next was being written and also on the road and curbs on again was readying cat's cradle. what was said that produced the year reverence? eisenh