okay, mike nichols, the movie. we all want to know, did he come to you and say, i want you to do the movie? did you go to him? how did the movie come about? >> we had nothing to do with each other at that point. movies are made and decided by people in california that none of us knows. (laughing.) >> in this case those we don't know were infiltrated by a very close friend of mine whom i'd known in new york, one that my partner and i were comedians and who mygrade to california roughly -- [laughter] >> you're fired. >> oh, my god. [cell phone ringing] >> thank my god you weren't in the audience. >> no, i've forgotten everything i was trying to -- >> joe heller, what's that book? something happened, right. >> so he was working for this unfortunate person in california and they were making not good movi movies, but he was in hollywood, this old pal. and it was right after my second movie, it was right after the graduate. and he said if i bought catch-22, would you make it? and i said, i don't think so. it's too hard.

ok, mike nichols. we all want to know, did he come to you and say i want you to do the movie or did you go to him? how did the movie come out? >> we had nothing to do with each other. movies are made and decided by people in california that none of us know. in this case, those we don't know were infiltrated by a very close friend of mine who i knew in new york, my partner and i were comedians who migrated through california roughly around -- [cellphone music]] >> you are fired! are am glad you were not in the audience! i have forgotten everything i was saying. joe heller. something happened. >> tell us how the movie got made. >> he was working through this unfortunate person in california and they were making not good movies but he was in hollywood so we came in -- he said for me it was right after my second movie was after the graduate. and he said if i bought catch-22 would you make it? us at i don't think so. it is too hard. i don't know how to make a huge surrealistic movie that says war is madness

my mom's a teacher and she encouraged me to do that and also took me to movies and say this is mike nichols, this is a very talented man. it's like okay, there's als this. these two things come together. rose: but was there also the sense that... from writing to directing, was that inevitable? >> not in the beginning. it was kind of... that was the dream beyond the dream. i think the first time i got published in olling stone" and particularly when they sent me a copy of a story i did on led zeppelin and it arrived in the mail and it was on the cover. >> how old were you? >> 16. >> rose: the led accept lin story at 16 was on the cover of roling own? >> it was bizarre to think about it but i wasn't second guessing anything i loved that music. >> rose: this was conicled in what movie? oh, that's right. >> so it ended up being the subject of the movie i was able to make later. so i'min blue sky sailing now. it's all good. >> rose: so talk about people you've worked with. clooney. how competitive did you find him? >> he's unbelievably competitive. unbelievably competitive. i talked with jn abou

my mom's a teacher and she encouraged me to do that and also took me to movies and say this is mike nichols, this is a very talented man. it's like okay, there's als this. these two things come together. rose: but was there also the sense that... from writing to directing, was that inevitable? >> not in the beginning. it was kind of... that was the dream beyond the dream. i think the first time i got published in olling stone" and particularly when they sent me a copy of a story i did on led zeppelin and it arrived in the mail and it was on the cover. >> how old were you? >> 16. >> rose: the led accept lin story at 16 was on the cover of roling own? >> it was bizarre to think about it but i wasn't second guessing anything i loved that music. >> rose: this was conicled in what movie? oh, that's right. >> so it ended up being the subject of the movie i was able to make later. so i'min blue sky sailing now. it's all good. >> rose: so talk about people you've worked with. clooney. how competitive did you find him? >> he's unbelievably competitive. unbelievably competitive. i talked with jn abou

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