that's why i wrote the book. >> mike nyfong himself was removed from office, was disbarred, was jailedogized to these young men and bought into the attorney -- i know all of this from you, by the way. >> right. >> bought into the attorney general's conclusion that they were absolutely innocent. >> innocence is not a word that's used in jurisprudence. but anyway, go ahead. >> not guilty. how could he come to the conclusion -- how could you come to the conclusion that justice wasn't served here because there wasn't a trial? i mean, because this woman made an allegation if this woman had evidence on her of having had sex with several individuals at the point in time, none of whom were duke lacrosse players. >> well, and that is, of course -- >> and someone's son or daughter should go to trial based on that kind of claim? >> well, she made the claim. she made it repeatedly. she was examined by a nurse on the night of the incident at the duke university hospital. she was examined by doctors. they made reports. in that report, the nurse claimed that she believed she had been raped. and sexua