mike oneill is a serious guy.e needs to tell us what the business model is going forward and i will be more comfortable see your typical investor get involved in the stock. it moves a couple of points a day and got almost no dividends. >> but that's the question that's the question. can mike o neill run it? what's his agenda? clearly he's in charge here. >> any chairman is in charge, that's not the point. good corporate governance. >> the point is, can he do it? >> i think so. if anybody can he can. what he did with bank of hawaii was quite remarkable. i'm encouraged. >> all right, we'll leave it there. >> really appreciate it. we have 25 minutes before the closing bell sounds for the day. >> our next guest is falling off the fiscal cliff may be the best thing for the nation's debt problem if congress can't strike that grand bargain role. chief investment strategist listann saunders explains next. >>> preparing the portfolio ahead of the fiscal cliff, scott spurling later on "the closing bell". >> which stock is o