we'll talk about the swamp in washington, mike osanian. here's the house report. god bless them, i'm sure they mean well, but the specific advice that steve and rich just gave isn't in this report. it looks frankly like a united nations report. >> dave, unless there's something in there that talks about taking control of the caliphate, then it's not going to be effective at all. that's why, no matter what you do in terms of trying to cut off their finances, unless you have strong military action, it's not going to be effective. >> and sabrina, by the way, you also have people here that are trying to send money over there. as i reported in virginia, they caught one guy. unless people think this is just an isolated case, you go in to search in the justice department website, look for material support and you find a whole list, dozens of individuals in this country, that are sending money or trying to, to isis. >> right, and david, i feel like this has been a conversation we've had since september 11. because we knew that people were being funded to initiate these at