now let's turn to america's lawyer mike papen tonio mike welcome to the big picture to be here thanks for the invitation these david and goliath lawsuits get lots of media attention but how many actually went what are some notable examples of the little guy beating the big corporation well you can do that but it has to be under the right pleading it has to be under the right theory the reason these climate change for cases for example are being dismissed is because the pleading is not where it should be really interesting dichotomy about just the climate change case alone. the for example rhode island just filed a case a couple of weeks ago and there their argument is that they want to go after all of the oil companies and they want to hold them responsible for the damages that's a evident to everybody who's honest and paying attention but what they've done they've they've overreached holland the best way and it'll be dismissed that's my prediction it'll be if it's not if it's not dismissed at the trial level it'll be dismissed at the appellate level there's a problem that they have i