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come true for president obama and i guess journalist and the very very ugly republican congressman mike pence now the feeling of the republicans may be just playing politics with this whole government shutdown thing but mike pence aside if you could affirm those suspicions with this curious freudian slip last night on fox news take a look you're trying to score a victory for the republican faithful for the american public if you're going to score a victory for the american people not for the republican party. that victory is going to going to come in stages here i think first what's there you have it republicans only care about scoring a victory for other republicans and not the rest of the country and that's very very ugly. right the secretary of defense robert gates was in baghdad today we spoke to american troops telling them that if the iraqi government asks hey i have to remain in that country past the december thirty first withdrawal deadline take a look at folks here are going to want us to have a presence. we're going to need to get on with it pretty quickly in terms of our planning.

you and mike pence are saying we are headed for a showdown we might as well pick this fight now the typef cuts are needed the democrats might agree with 20 billion more. if you have a 3.7 trillion dollar budget, 1. 5 trillion deficit this year, 20 billion is peanuts. if anything, you're trying to get the leadership to be more an guess sieve and fight in battle now. -- more aggressive and fight in battle now. maybe there's resistance? >> we've been working on this store some time, king of iowa, gomer of texas. it is time for -- -- gohmert in texas. it is time to change the arch of history. the money hidden in the obamacare that no one discussed prior to the vote on the bill. that needs to come back. >> sean: if the republicans want 61 billion democrats only willing to give 20 billion. republicans are promising that their budget is going to deal with entitlements and go back to 2008 spending levels. my question is, is there any movement on this where they say way, we need to take out prefunding of obama care as well as the 61 billion. anyone in the leadership saying that is a good idea? >>

i talked to mike pence who said we want to pull all funding from planned parenthood. issues, is that enough to get women involved? >> it might be. women, that's another bloc that's very important in the elections both to democrats and republicans. democrats have been losing ground with women voters. and it's not -- the planned parenthood debate i think really shocked a lot of women across the country. democrats, republicans, independents. as you pointed out in that interview with pence, it's not just about abortion services but basic health care services that really shock so many women. i think between that and some of the other extreme measures -- >> arizona. >> arizona where we saw a measure passed. we saw in indiana there was a republican house -- state legislative member who said perhaps an exception for rape could create a loophole, that women would basically fake that they had been raped in order to be -- get an abortion. that's the kind of thing that angers women arkansas cross the political spectrum. so it could create an opening particularly among independent

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people like mike pence, mish em bachmann who are taking advantage of the situation to expand their ownminence. pence led a rally. shut it down, shut it down. and so i think that's a problem for boehner too. not just the freshman, but also the older members who are trying to take advantage of the situation. >> woodruff: and meanwhile the president, or i should say the democratses are getting some heat from the left. they're saying the white house, the democrats have maybe give then too much already. >> the explanation you get from the white house is that the president was seen, as too intimately and personally and completely involved in the legislative process the first two years. and so they have distanced him from this. and there is this grumbling. a, that they have given am too much too soon on the cuts that were talked about. and that the president himself is not personally sophed. it's not simply mike pence and some of the others, newt gingrich, of recent and fond memory, and presidential ambitions, appeared before the house republicans yesterday and urged them to be even tougher.

the republicans really care too much about it because you know people like mike mike pence who is the third ranking republican and the house saying you know shut it down if you doesn't get what he wants. so you know i think it's really going to be a big deal you know in some ways it could be argued that this whole argument over the budget is a warmup for a bigger fight that's looming which is over there whether or not to raise the debt ceiling do you expect the lines in the in the sand to be drawn along similar lines here and could we see a stalemate over that yeah yeah i mean i think you're seeing a lot of the same republicans who are saying shut it down also saying we will not raise that that's you know we have a treasure trove the secretary come out and say you know to the house republicans look this has to happen we have to raise the debt ceiling or we're going to default on our loans. but these tea party backed republicans are you know they're sort of beholden to this whole you know right wing faction and they're not budging so i think there's going to be a lot of parallels betwe

[cheering] thank you, a congressman and now we have congressman mike pence from indiana. jericho i'm mike pence, from indiana, the two-party patriots americans tell all welcome back to your nation's capital. [cheering] with a deficit this year of $1.65 trillion in the national debt of $14 trillion a defiant little majority in the senate it's time to pick a fight. [cheering] in 2010 the american people send a deafening message to both political parties in washington, d.c.. they said it's time to end of the borrowing and spending and the bailout's and to end of the congress of nancy pelosi once and for all. [cheering] and you did it. and house republicans have gone to work since being awarded the majority again. we cut our budgets. we repealed obamacare lot of stock and barrel on the floor of the house of representatives, and we voted to cut spending to the pre-stimulus bailout levels, defunding obamacare and ending all public funding for planned parenthood of america. [cheering] [applause] but house republicans have run headlong into harry reid. harry reid took to the floo

congressman mike pence on january 7 id this, quote, if we are going to put our fiscal house in order, we have to be able to look at defee. we need a strong defense, i'm a supporter of a strong defense, but to take those dollars off the table is irresponsible and inconsistent with the presentations that our republican friends have made. those words are sounding very hollow, however, today while republicans breaking their word, madam speaker, because in my opinion they know that the on way to get their conference to support this spending bill is to bribe it with a year of defense spending left untouched. and a divisive social policy provision as well. which is what they said they would not do. what we need to do is sit down and over the next 72 hours now the next 48 hours, frankly, come to compromise, that's our job. my way or the high way is never going to get it done. finally, republicans showed their priorities in their budget for the upcoming fiscal year, we'll have a lot to say about that in the days ahead. their budget ends medicare as we know it. seniors thought that they were go

you played mike pence's moment where he was one of the few speakers to bring up the shutdown as something they might be interested in. you cut it right before the crowd started to chant "cut it or shut it," which didn't -- i think that last bd three cheers before they realized it sounded more like a sugar hill gang record than a good slogan. but they're not fighting as hard on this because they know there's two other big chances to win these -- to win these economic fights if they wait on it. it might be surprising. this is a movement that fought really hard to take back congress, and this rally they said was about stiffening their backbone, but i didn't find a lot of people saying they were going to bail on it if the republicans failed to do this. >> dave weigel of slate and our tea party watcher, thank you very much for joining us tonight, dave. obama birth certificate shtick on fox news and gets laughed at by bill o'reilly. >>> plus, the man running president obama's re-election campaign isn't a favorite of progressives. "the nation's" ari berman takes us behind the scenes for a critic

sarah palin, mike pence, michelle bachmann. they say it's our way or no way.hat's not how the american government works. here's the good news. the american people are seeing the tea party for what it is -- extreme. their popularity is declining. they now have only 33% of people in support of them. 47% against them. when they lose clout, it makes an agreement much more likely. it's another reason i'm optimistic. >> let me ask you this, today, rather, this week, you sort of stepped in it, sort of recording wise. you were caught briefing your fellow senators on how to address this issue. didn't know that the reporters were still on the conference call. let's play that. it plays right into the spin and the language of what is going on right now. >> i always use the word extreme. that's what the caucus instructed me to do the other week. extreme cuts and all the riders. and boehner's in a box. but if he supports the tea party, there's going to inevitably be a shutdown. >> now, you know, i have no problem with reporters hearing that. i said it a few hours before on

. >> reporter: indiana republican mike pence countered that it's the democrats standing in the way ofompromise. >> we are going to pass this continuing resolution. we are going to fund our troops in harms way and stationed all across the world and all across this nation. and if democrats here in washington would rather play political games and shut down the government than support our troops, defend our treasury and respect our values, than i say shut it down. and i'm certain the american people are going to know who to blame. >> reporter: the one-week extension passed on a mostly party-line vote, but it appeared to have little chance in the senate. the president has already signed two stopgap funding bills, including a total of $10 billion in spending cuts. he has said he'd accept another short-term measure so long as no policy provisions are attached. >> lehrer: and to two reporters who have been covering various aspects of this story. naftali bendavid, congressional correspondent for the "wall street journal." and ed o'keefe of the "washington post." naftali, how close are we, in t

there are people like congressman mike pence of indiana who's a leader of that group and he has sortsaid look, i don't want a shutdown but if that's what we have to do, that's what we have toe do. but everybody else in both parties is saying they want to avoid it at all costs because it would lead to a volatile political environment. nobody knows for sure who would be blamed. nobody knows what the outcome would be. so it's something both parties are shying away from with the exception of those tea party conservatives you mentioned. >> lehrer: so when in doubt if you don't know who will be blamed you may be one of them so forget it if you can possibly do so, is that it? >> that's it. i think polls show a split as to who would be blamed but it's interesting because if you talk to people if congress privately both people think the republicans are a bit more at risk from a shutdown than democrats and speaker boehner has said very openly to his colleagues, to his republican colleagues, is look, democrats think they would benefit more than we would from a shutdown and i agree with them. so

week" when she sits down with the president's top adviser david plouffe, republican congressman mike pence and democratic congressman chris van hollen. now we sit down with dan claiborne with the other headlines this morning. good morning. >> good morning. >>> firefighters in west texas are bracing for a tough battle today. a massive wildfire has burned as much as 125 square miles. and the situation could worsen because of dry, windy conditions. two homes have burned down and several communities have been told they may have to evacuate. >>> and a second person died from a shooting at a party outside of philadelphia friday night. eight others were wounded at the party hall which was filled mostly with teenagers. the shooting is said to have started after someone set off a firecracker. one suspect was arrested and charged with murder. >>> four people in california are lucky to be alive after their small plane crashed into a storage facility on saturday. the plane reportedly lost power as it prepared to land and burst into flames after going down. three passengers walked away with only minor

[cheering] thank you, a congressman and now we have congressman mike pence from indiana. jericho i'm mike pence, from indiana, the two-party patriots americans tell all welcome back to your nation's capital. [cheering] with a deficit this year of $1.65 trillion in the national debt of $14 trillion a defiant little majority in the senate it's time to pick a fight. [cheering] in 2010 the american people send a deafening message to both political parties in washington, d.c.. they said it's time to end of the borrowing and spending and the bailout's and to end of the congress of nancy pelosi once and for all. [cheering] and you did it. and house republicans have gone to work since being awarded the majority again. we cut our budgets. we repealed obamacare lot of stock and barrel on the floor of the house of representatives, and we voted to cut spending to the pre-stimulus bailout levels, defunding obamacare and ending all public funding for planned parenthood of america. [cheering] [applause] but house republicans have run headlong into harry reid. harry reid took to the floo

i think what mike pence is talking about is the continuation resolution, the deal boehner got with the president. this budget, we had unanimous republican vote in the budget committee just this week. this will be on the floor thursday and friday. and i expect we will pass this from the republican caucus on friday. >> what about members who are running for the presidency? who's with you on this? >> i don't pay attention to all that. honestly, i'm busy trying to write a budget -- >> but you can operate in a political fashion if you want it to become law. >> but i've heard all of the candidates have been in support of this. >> chairman ryan, we'll keep tabs on it. >> thank you. >> thank you for being here. appreciate it. >>> coming up, the government shutdown threat was just the beginning. more tough issues ahead on spending, including next year's budget and a vote to raise the debt ceiling, all of this against the backdrop of 2012. the tea party is clamong for change. president obama gears up for his re-election bid. what does the political landscape look like? we'll analyze it all with

there are some members, the older guard, so securities such as mike pence and members of the budget committee, jim jordan, the smaller conference within the entire gop rank-and- file, they really wanted those $61 billion. they actually wanted more in cuts. they were not happy with this deal. host: as far as the tea party influence, it was mentioned a lot. what is the reality? guest: the tea party reflects the frustrations of the older social conservatives that had been in the house, like mike pence and jim jordan. and they did have an influence on in. but to say -- most people have been talking about the freshman, the tea party pressman, the ones who opposed it -- i do not think that that is necessarily accurate. and the bigger issue of keeping -- this is what republicans say, we keep our eyes on the uprising go to the next day's fight, the budget. that is something that people who would like to vote for more draconian cuts keep in mind when it comes to long-term funding. i was talking to greg walden. he is the house gop leadership chairman. the deputy national republican congressional commit

here's mike pence, one of the leading republicans in the house of representatives, one of the leaders of the tea party caucus. what does he say? "shut it down." that's what he wants. either he thinks he's going to get his way by shutting it down. you know, i group on streets in brooklyn, and there were people who thought just by bullying they could get their way. shut it down if you don't do it all my way. well, bullying doesn't work and we will not be bullied. we will not hurt millions of people. we will not abandon our principles because the other side believes that we will do whatever they want, falsely believes that we will do whatever they want because otherwise they will shut the government down. we don't want to shut the government down. i have not heard a single democrat say what mike pence has said, but i've heard lots of republicans -- i've heard sarah palin talk about the shutdown be a good thing, i heard about newt gingrich talk about the shut down be a good thing. i heard some of mr. pence's colleagues, probably a dozen or so in the house of representatives saying shut it

see this man, mike pence, along with like-minded colleagues he greatly complicated boehner's effort to the government by insisting that the budget cuts specifically take money away from planned parenthood, a group that supports the right to abortion which pence opposes. >> liberals in the senate would rather shut the government down so they can continue to borrow money from china to fund the largest abortion provider in america. >> reporter: it let the democrats say things like this -- >> they can shut down america's government over women's access to health care. if that sounds ridiculous, it's because it is ridiculous. >> reporter: in the end, the deal did not cut planned parenthood's funding, but it forced a vote to come up on the issue later. ♪ so the government shutdown, good that it didn't happen. good that our troops will be paid and that our parks will stay open and that tourists in washington can enjoy museums along with the ducks. but believe this, the orchestra is only warming up, and the next round won't feel like a dance at all. john donvan, abc news, washington. >> what a

mike pence said it's a, quote, trampling on the traditional rules of the house and senate even on the constitution of the united states. that was on march 16, 2010. eric cantor termed it a, quote, malfeesant manner, unquote. and those who might support it as having, quote, discharged the duties of their offices, on march 18, 2010. and here we are, the elephants never forgetting but the elephants repeating. with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia. mr. woodall: madam speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. i associate myself with the gentlewoman's remarks. those comments on the bottom of the board are as true today as they were a year ago. there's no deeming in this bill. i give my colleagues on the other side of the aisle the benefit of the doubt that they know that and that's just the spin for today. there's no deeming in this bill. this bill says one thing and one thing only about h.r. 1 and that is that if the senate cannot act we're going to give the senate some cover. if the senate doesn't want to commit to h.r. 1 for the remainder o

furthermore, mike pence said the procedure like this, he said, denounced deem and pass and, quote, trampling on the traditional rules of the house and the senate and even on the constitution othe united states of america. . michelle bachmann, apparently may be a candidate for president said this, the deem deem and pass, quote, ignored the constitution and warranted the impeachment of the house speaker. quote, there should be people that are calling for ieachment off of something like this. this resolution -- can i have an additional one minute? i thank the gentleman. something like this. which says contrary to the constitution, if the senate doesn't act, this bill becomes law. nobody on your side surely believes that that can happen. nobody believes that that joke that we are trying to play on the american people on april fool's day will be believed by any of them. and my friends do not tell me about your concern about the deficit because the deficit during my period of time except for the last two years trying to deal with the deep depression in which the last administration left this econo

we would vote for a man like mike pence. host: all right. kim is 44 years old and she is calling from california. caller: good morning. i think the cuts to social security are totally unfair. they're listed as an entitlement. however, that is something that people work all their lives and pay into. by no means, it is that government funded -- by no means is that government funded, or it should not be. hello? host: we are listening. caller: as far as custom medicaid and medicare, if it would eliminate the illegal residents -- as far as medicaid and medicare, if they would eliminate the legal residents, that would eliminate a lot of the wasteful spending. i do not think it is fair that they're getting the medical attention, food stamps, having babies after babies. they are eating up the majority of the titans that natural-going bang people -- the entitlements that natural-born people have. host: we are talking about cutting entitlements to cut the deficit. if you want to send us a sweet, you can -- a tweet, send it to twitter.com/cspan. good m

congressman mike pence on january 7 said this, quote, if we are going to put our fiscal house in order we have to be able to look at defense. we need a strong defense, i'm a supporter of a strong defense, but to take those dollars off the table is irresponsible and inconsistent with the representations that our republican friends have made. those words are sounding very hollow, however, today while republicans breaking their word, madam speaker, because in my opinion they know that the only way to get their conference to support this spending bill is to bribe it with a year of defense spending left untouched. and a divisive social policy provision as well. which is what they said they would not do. what we need to do is sit down and over the next 72 hours now the next 48 hours, frankly, come to compromise, that's our job. my way or the high way is never going to get it done. finally, republicans showed their priorities in their budget for the upcoming fiscal year, we'll have a lot to say about that in the days ahead. their budget ends medicare as we know it. seniors thought that they w

congressman mike pence on january 7 said this, quote, if we are going to put our fiscal house in order, we have to be able to look at defense. we need a strong defense, i'm a supporter of a strong defense, but to take those dollars off the table is irresponsible and inconsistent with the representations that our republican friends have made. those words are sounding very hollow, however, today while republicans breaking their word, madam speaker, because in my opinion they know that the only way to get their conference to support this spending bill is to bribe it with a year of defense spending left untouched. and a divisive social policy provision as well. which is what they said they would not do. what we need to do is sit down and over the next 72 hours now the next 48 hours, frankly, come to compromise, that's our job. my way or the high way is never going to get it done. finally, republicans showed their priorities in their budget for the upcoming fiscal year, we'll have a lot to say about that in the days ahead. their budget ends medicare as we know it. seniors thought that they

the tea party caucus people, representatives michele bachmann, mike pence, for example, they are calling a hard-line. behind closed doors, speaker boehner has encouraged freshmen and those on the right side of his party to really keep up the rhetoric. the idea did here -- there is a lot written about john boehner being pulled by the tea party. but the more that they clamor for cuts, the more boehner can go into a room with president obama and say, i just cannot sell this deal to my people. it plays into his advantage. but ultimately, it could also prove a major problem. we have seen some outreach from republican leadership to fiscally conservative democrats, and this has been one of the more interesting developments -- some people see it as a way that boehner can go to the tea party president and say that i have all other alternatives. others view it as much less than that, just feeling out of long- term deficit deal. host: under 15 minutes left for this initial segment. if we need to, we will go back to erik wasson for more detail. some reaction to it coming up beginning at 7:45 a.m. ja

we had mike pence, another freshman, and i were the are far out on the tea party side.y want to be ahead of this. they want to be the darlings of the tea party movement. take a look at who is capturing the attention of the presidential field. michelle bachman, the congressman from minnesota. she is hugely popular. and she is raising the money to prove that she is popular beyond just showing up on glenn beck's show. in the last quarter, she raised more money than mitt romney reyes, which is -- raised, which is an interesting way to gauge her strength. she is a big deal, in terms of her support with the tea party crowd, and that has made her a big deal with the republican field at large. that tells you a little bit of how influential the tea party is. all of the contenders will try to kowtow to the tea party base to convince them they are the best possible candidate, the most conservative, the most able to reflect those values. we have seen less of an argument of about who is the more electable candidate, more about who is most conservative, most in line with the tea part

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mike pence, who is the former chairman of the house republican policy committee, conference, actually, has worked with me over the last five years on trying to pass a federal shield law to protect the confidentiality of sources. mike's one of the most conservative member of congress but he believes quite deeply and passionately that the news media are the only real check on government power in real time. that is his phrase, not mine. and he believes that the work that we do as well as the work that the "the washington post" and others do is essential to the proper functioning of this democracy, to the accountability of office holders. it is an interesting question about whether government funding will tend to compromise independence, but in fact, we have more than 40 years of experience now. i think we have built a very good record of independence, accountability, of balance and fairness and so forth that is there for anyone to see. i sit -- so i think this is not a theoretical issue. this is 40 years of experience we have had that has worked out pretty well. >> joyce, we know npr has

the same day, the same rally, pence, mike pence, said to them, it looks like we may have to -- it looks like we're going to have to shut down the government. and what did the tea party crowd do? they started chanting, "shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it do down." according to his own account, when speaker boehner told his republican colleagues that he had taken -- his caucus, he had taken steps to prepare for a shutdown, he said, "i got a standing ovation." there have been no standing ovations on our side. about a prospective shutdown. come on. we're trying to keep the government working. we desperately want to keep the government working. the republicans are busy fighting ideological battles. for them, this is not about the deficit. it's not about the budget. it's certainly not about jobs. this is about ideology. i was on the floor today -- i was presiding today and i had the opportunity to hear some of my colleagues talking about the bill the house passed today to fund the troops. we want to fund the troops if there's a shutdown. we do. and there's all thi