but let's be honest, every other contender minus, maybecoup a couple like mike pence actually has a sholemike pent ag something within this movement, within this america first gop resurgence, conservative movement first, all have a placa they think has a place. >> pence is a serious guy, ser a candidate. >> he's been a governor. hens been a congressma you know, he's a he's a mayobviu have disagreements, obviously, at the end of the administration with trump. buslheration wump,t he's a serii he's in this for his reasons. r. oh, he certainly is. i think he's unserious. ng the n it comes to actually getting the nomination. and i don't think that he has much of a futured i don't thinks new conservative movement. dertaineverybody else, by an large, does. chris christie certainly does not. he's there for himselflyno. he's indulgent, narcissistic. and again, this is all aboutarcs chris christie. and they're putting him on tv because he's willing to bash hi trump. >> and that's really the extent of it. would refk junher do a whol town hall with rfk jr because he's far more interesting. iouse he i one of t