thank you to mike pompeo and to all of you for being here. today more than ever is an important moment for the future of education and future of k-12 education. this last year has laid bare many problems many families have experienced in any way and the status quo, union bosses and bureaucrats that support the status quo have overreached and this is an important moment to introduce policies that will empower families and kids to find the right fit for education. so thank you for being here to talk about this subject with us and i look forward to the conversation. [applause] >> i want to bring our next speaker, mike pompeo served under the trump administration as director of the cia. he was elected to four terms in congress from kansas prior to that and has an illustrious career in business and graduated top of his class at west point. he served in a patrol unit at the iron curtain. he graduated from harvard law. i also want to ask him, given everything that has happened in afghanistan, to say some comments on that. mike, come on out. [applaus

thank you to mike pompeo and to all of you for being here.oday more than ever is an important moment for the future of education and future of k-12 this last year has laid bare many of the problems that many families have experienced in a whole new way. the union bosses and all of their allies and bureaucrats that support everything about the status quo have overstepped and overreached and now is an important moment to really introduce policies that are going to empower families and kids to find the right fit for education. fit for education. so thank you for being here to talk about this subject with us and i look forward to the conversation. [applause] >> i want to bring our next speaker, mike pompeo served under the trump administration as director of the cia. he was elected to four terms in congress from kansas prior to that and has an illustrious career in business and graduated top of his class at west point. he served in a patrol unit at the iron curtain. he graduated from harvard law. i also want to ask him, given everything that has

thank you to mike pompeo and to all of you for being here. today more than ever is an important moment for the future of education and future of k-12 education. this last year has laid bare many problems many families have experienced in any way and the status quo, union bosses and bureaucrats that support the status quo have overreached and this is an important moment to introduce policies that will empower families and kids to find the right fit for education. so thank you for being here to talk about this subject with us and i look forward to the conversation. [applause] >> i want to bring our next speaker, mike pompeo served under the trump administration as director of the cia. he was elected to four terms in congress from kansas prior to that and has an illustrious career in business and graduated top of his class at west point. he served in a patrol unit at the iron curtain. he graduated from harvard law. i also want to ask him, given everything that has happened in afghanistan, to say some comments on that. mike, come on out. [applaus

they describe how then cia director mike pompeo sought revenge over wikileaks publication of sensitivecia hacking tools called ball 7, which the agency considered the largest data loss in cia history. later in the broadcast, we will speak with mike isikoff and jennifer robinson. the international criminal court's lead prosecutor said monday he is seeking approval to resume his investigation into war crimes committed in afghanistan by the taliban and the militant group isis-k. notably absent from the icc's statement was any mention of alleged war crimes committed by the united states, its allies, and the former u.s.-backed government in kabul. patricia gossman of human rights watch tweeted in response -- "it seems there is no end to the betrayal of afghans -- now so many victims of torture and other abuses by u.s. and former afghan government forces have been told there is no justice for you." meanwhile, the taliban-appointed chancellor for kabul university said monday that all women would be indefinitely barred from attending courses, either as professors or students. and afghanistan's

it started at least in the public phase in april of 2017 when mike pompeo gave his first talk as cia he referred to wikileaks as a hostile non-state intelligence service. at the time a lot of us thought that was a grabby talking point, click bait line that mike pompeo was using. it actually had significance inside the cia because by designating wikileaks as a hostile intelligence service, it opened the door for the cia to do all sorts of stuff. >> yeah. >> offensive counter intelligence activities that would have otherwise required both the presidential finding and congressional oversight. but free of that designation, they drew up some pretty drastic and extreme plans. >> you have to encourage everyone to read that report. but you bring up an interesting report about that investigation because when we talk about wikileaks, it leads to the issue of freedom of the press. today that freedom of the press released this statement saying the cia is a disgrace. the fact it contemplated and engaged in so many illegalwikils is an outright scandal that should be investigated by congress and th

next, the former secretary of state, mike pompeo speaks at an event on school voucher policies hosted by the club for growth. >> hello. i am david mcintosh, president of the club for growth. welcome to the national forum on school choice. i want to think everyone at the theater. they've done a great job of helping us get set up. it's great to be in concorde. all of you from the granite state, thank you for bringing us here. we have an exciting program i cannot wait to present. club for growth

some of trump's most loyal advisors privately expressed concern after the election and suggested mike pompeo told milley that trump was in a dark place right now. milley had just won gold ensuring the peaceful power transfer of power and he told you, milley telling pompeo, we got a plane, four engines. we have got no landing gear. but we are going to plant this plane and we are going to clean it safely. i have known you a long time, mr. secretary. is that true? >> i have no recollection of the conversation like that. we were about to head over the ridge of foreign policy to this administration. we have seen what that means for the united states of america. if someone asks, what was i excited about january 20th and the fact that we were no longer we were no longer going to have the capacity to secure american freedom? what is important to know is all this has the predicate that some help there was this fear. there were members concerned that don trump was going to engaged in some kind of drug activity or some kind of act of work to flesh out. this never happened. it is patently absurd. the en

withdrawal, and this morning, the first interview with former secretary of state mike pompeo. what he's saying about former president trump's deal with the taliban long before the chaos in kabul. >>> plus, the new turmoil behind the scenes at "jeopardy!" >>> the new pests wreaking havoc in the u.s. the danger posed by the spotted lantern fly. >>> and later the weatherman and the unexpected interruption from his dog. >>> good wednesday morning, everyone. we begin with the wildfire emergency in northern california at this hour. >> flames described as a hundred feet high are just miles from lake tahoe. the caldor fire is now surrounding popular tourist locations. new video shows firefighters racing to save the kirkwood ski resort south of lake tahoe. >> a photographer for "the new york times" capturing this image, a firefighter in his badly damaged truck. overnight we learned two firefighters have been hospitalized with burns. abc's christine sloan has the latest. >> reporter: this morning mandatory evacuation orders around lake tahoe are expanding as a massive wildfire approache

i want to thank former secretary of state, mike pompeo, mike i really appreciate you being here todaycome into our many distinguished guests. especially i want to have a shout out to frank. [applause] this last year has really made many of the problems many families have experienced in a whole new way and the forces of the status quo, the union bosses and all their allies and bureaucrats that support everything about the status quo have i think overstepped and overreached and now is an important moment to really introduce policies that are going to empower families and kids to find their fit for education and so we thank you for being here today to talk about this important subject with us and i look forward to that conversation. thanks. [applause] mr. mcintosh: our next speaker, secretary of state mark pompeo served under the trump administration in that position and as director of the cia. he was elected to four turns in congress from the kansas district prior to that. he has an illustrious career in business before and graduated top of his class at the united states military academ

and that statement from mike pompeo was a real line in the sand moment. was doing? good question. like many in the press, _ wikileaks was doing? good question. like many in the press, i— wikileaks was doing? good question. like many in the press, iwas- wikileaks was doing? good question. like many in the press, i was at i like many in the press, i was at that talk that he gave that you displayed a clip from and like many, i assume that mike pompeo, the reference to a non—state hostile intelligence service was kind of a rhetorical talking point that either your speech writers came up with. in fact, is quite significant in the cia because by branding wikileaks as a hostile intelligence service, it opened the door for the cia to plan all sorts of aggressive measures to dismantle wikileaks about getting a presidential finding and without having to brief capitol hill. the intelligence committees and so what we report is that there were some extreme measures that the cia was cooking up in response to this designation which a snatch operation and from the ecuado

here is mike pompeo. the biden team is trying to reboot trump's remain in mexico policy, but mexico didn't want to play. your reaction? >> we left him a perfectly good plan and in afghanistan and they turned that into chaos. left him a good plan to handle the southern border and maintain sovereignty. they ripped that up and i am confident they will blame our administration the same way had a did afghanistan. the american people can see. the humanitarian crisis is very significant. the burden it will place on the united states is real. schools will have to put these kids through school. it will deny the citizens and the kids that live there the education they need. and the "wall street journal" article, everybody person thinking maybe i should come, will see these haitians who came from central and south america who had been there quite a while. every person thinking about coming to the united states will see a green light and they will be released inside the united states. we are at the front end of a sig

will hear from a journalist that the former cia director mike pompeo refuses to confirm or deny at 2017 murder plot against julian assange. but say that whatever happened, he's not sorry it did. the current wiki league ball said the revelation shows his son, his life would be in danger if he were sent to america. its fate when he was ground would be in the hands of those who were planning to kill ah, from moscow to the world. this is our t, thanks for choosing us for your global news update today. i mean, and russia has slammed you too for deleting ortiz, german language channels, over alleged community guideline violations. the foreign ministry believes the move couldn't have happened without approval from the german government. russia's media regulator is now threatening to block the u. s. video sharing platform. the actions of the video platform youtube against those channels violate the key principles of free distribution of information and unhindered access to it. if the owners of youtube disregard the warning from russ kinetzer russian law allows for the full or partial blocking o

there were a series of proposals, ideas, plans that were flooded by the cia after the director mike pompeowar on wikileaks. it started at least in the public phase, in april of 2017, when pompeo gave his first top a cia director at a washington saying tank, and he referred to wikileaks as a hostile non state intelligence service. at the time, a lot of us thought that it was sort of a grab the talking point, click bait line that pompeo was using. it actually had significance inside the cia. because by designated we can links as a hostile intelligence service it opened the door for the cia to do all sorts of stuff. offensive counter intelligence activities that would've otherwise required either a president show fighting or congressional oversight. but freed of that with this designation they drew up some pretty drastic over stream plans. >> again i encourage everyone to read the report, but you bring up an interesting point about that designation, because when we talk about wikileaks. it always leads to the issue of freedom of the press. and today the freedom of the press foundation release

we are also reaching out to mike pompeo.o-author of that report, michael isikoff, chief investigative correspondent for yahoo! news. this is a big one, michael, as i welcome you. let's talk about julian assange, who had been on the radar of u.s. intelligence agencies for years. what sparked these plans for literally an all-out war against him? >> right, right. you know, assange and wikileaks got a lot of attention after the 2016 election when it was revealed, you know, their role in getting emails that were hacked by russian intelligence and then were being published by wikileaks to damage the hillary clinton campaign. although that was viewed as quite serious and alarming by many top officials in the then-obama administration, mike pompeo, when he comes in as cia director, was not all that alarmed about what the russians had done in using wikileaks during 2016. but then, early in his tenure, wikileaks starts publishing these very sensitive hacking tools known as vault 7, details of some of the vault 7 hacking tools, and pom

here is mike pompeo. the biden team has been trying to reboot trump's remain in mexico policy but mexico doesn't look like it wants to play. >> this is another example we left a perfectly good plan in afghanistan and they turned it into chaos, with respect to handle the southern border and kept our sovereignty, the humanitarian crisis and they are trying to get back to it. they will try to blame our administration as well but the american people can see these folks implemented their ideas poorly. the burden this will place on the united states is real, schools will have to take these kids and put them through school, huge burdens, the kids that live there, education they need and you mentioned the wall street journal article, every person thinking maybe i should come, we will see the haitians who often came from central and south america, they didn't just flee haiti in the last week or two and every single person thinking of coming to the united states illegally will see there is a green light and they wi

you think mike pompeo and president trump had no interaction whatsoever when it comes to negotiatingwithdrawal? are you also send they should have negotiate with them even though it was obvious the taliban was in charge? >> look, there are a lot of things here. i'm not placing blame on democrat or republican. kennedy: yes you are. >> number one the military are telling us the afghan military was not ready or prepared and would never be ready. we knew we had to get out we never should have gone in there. >> we did not know these people is never going to work. >> we lost dollars, we lost lives for what? at the end of the day every family overtook the taliban we would leave an area, they would resurface again place before that's not really. >> isis-k is an offshoot of this place before we are screwed, thanks president obama. the panels going to stick around you better believe it. write a present biden facing a crisis of confidence over his handling of afghanistan, foreign policy experts to u.s. credibility have diminished as world leaders perceive the biden administration is weak and fe

mike pompeo spoke of iran's illegitimate contacts with the tora bora group, some groups that experts believe our taliban -- our taliban splinter groups. that is not clear. what is clear is that iran had relations with both the government and the taliban. for instance in july, tehran hosted a meeting of the acting government representatives and a high level taliban political delegation and a day after the taliban took control of kabul, the president of iran described the withdrawal as a military failure, adding that it must become an opportunity to restore security, lives, and peace in afghanistan. it backs efforts to restore peace to afghanistan, adding that as a neighboring nation, iran invites all groups to reach a national agreement. taliban have reassured countries in the region not to worry but some countries such as iran are -- to a g cassette -- to dig biggest on are concerned already. iran warned the taliban to be the part of the future solution, not the whole, but now the , taliban has seized control of all of the countries strategic province, and we know there's been animos

maria: joining me right now former secretary of state mike pompeo.ry, good to see you this morning. good morning to you. secretary: good morning, maria, thanks for having me on the show this morning. maria: your thoughts on the missed drone strike killing civilians. the latest upset from this withdrawal from afghanistan that was obviously botched and not planned. secretary: well, maria, it's a tragedy that civilians were killed and to the families and those around them, my apologies, we pray for them, this was just another example, it looked like they were in a rush and hurry. you can see the political pressure. one thing that drove deadline that president biden set, cap of the number of troops that could be there so that we could secure american departure and equipment. these were political decisions driven down to the military and i'm confident that the military was under enormous pressure and biden said we would strike back at the one who is killed 13 americans. this is just another piece of an evacuation that was driven by politics and not puttin

so i was stunned a few days ago to hear this interview by mike pompeo that you just played because pompeo had to be reading the same intelligence as milley. >> and milley told him. shouldn't pompeo -- shouldn't meadows, shouldn't miller and esper be put in that same position as milley today and say why didn't you tell us when you heard us making the accusations, why didn't you tell us that you knew that he had done this? and why was it okay for you? because if it was wrong for milley to do it, it would have been wrong for them in different ways. shouldn't that be done now? >> well, i think -- i think we know why they haven't said it. there are political ambitions at stake. pompeo is running for president. i think that's pretty clear -- >> what about the senators, rubio, hawley. how can have questions for milley and not have them for the people you told that didn't let you know that they knew? >> yeah. may i just say, i'm not sure pompeo would have communicated to those people or mark meadows that milley was calling the chinese because it was so standard operating procedure, so regular ord

second case just after the storming of the capital, everyone else would be looped and including mike pompeosecretary of state and the chief of staff at the white house. donald trump has also called mark milley a traitor for speaking to his chinese counterpart. laura: to the u.k. which is in the grip of a fuel crisis. gas stations are running out. amid panic buying, the army is on standby to deliver gas. simon jack has the latest. >> think this drivers responding to reports of fuel shortages. it is a crisiof confidence that is having real-world consequences. debbie moulton was verbally abused while filling up petrol cans on the road as some have been delayed, waiting to refuel. >> the first call is at seven. she got to the client at a quarter to eight so she was 45 minutes late for the person who could not get out of bed until we were there. they were uncomfortable, in bed, needing their meds. >> 16% of stations are fully stocked compared to 10%, far below the 40% considered normal. >> supplies are coming back onto the four thoughts. when you really needt. there has been no acute shortage so

we have not gotten a response yet from mike pompeo but he was the driving force in this.port, you know, not just -- he was embarrassed by what happened to the cia, so much so that he didn't even want to brief president trump on it. he was afraid it would make him look bad. he was told he had to do so. trump says a very interesting comment for this story, while denying that he ever requested information about a possible assassination. he says assange has been treated unfairly. this is the guy his own administration then later indicted and now here trump is reverting to his earlier sympathy for julian assange and wikileaks no doubt remembering all the help they gave him in the 2016 election. >> you said it, this is jason bourne stuff. everyone should read this article right now. it is deeply fascinating. michael isikoff, thank you very much. >> sure enough, thank you. >>> and "new day" continues right now. >> i'm brianna keilar alongside john berman on this "new day." the active threat to america's

secretary of state mike pompeo says he is in a very dark place right now, and there's a showdown betweenn-attorney general bill barr and president trump, and he sort of confronts trump about his chances of getting re-elected and he says to trump, they just think you're an -- you can read on the screen what he says. but -- >> we got it, yeah. >> -- the number of shouting matches, the -- word is used in this book more than i would say every quin ton tarantino movie, "the big lebowski" and another combined, it really shows how milley came to the point he was at because of just explosion after explosion. >> jamie, it is fascinating. obviously it is not just the expletives that got all of these officials' attention. >> yeah. >> it was just the behavior and the seeming unhinged quality that is depicted, that you describe and bob woodward. jamie, stay with us, if you would. >> sure. >> we are joined by cnn global affairs analyst susan glasser, a staff writer for "the new yorker." and retired general mark hertling. general, i will start with you because all of the stuff about obviously have the

coming up, former secretary of state mike pompeo is here on the china threat and the consequences toome from handing over there strategically located and fortified bagram airbase to the taliban as congressman michael mccall told us on this program last week. >> thegr reason why it is so important is because it's a national security asset for the united states or it was so the taliban take it over, this provided eyes and ears not only in afghanistan, but china, russia and iran. they are now emboldened. we can't see. we're going dark now and that's very dangerous. the administration talks about over-the-horizon capabilities. this is like six, eight hours away in qatar, uae. bagram, the loss of bag rap, i can't -- bagram, i can't emphasize how destructive this is. maria: as the biden administration promises green cars for afghan refugees, the southern border is overflowing with migrants. there are 15,000 people waiting to apprehended under one bridge in del-rio, texas. joe biden's refusal to close the border as terrorist want-to-bees join the fight, as michael waltz predicted last week.

we, by the trump administration, trump and mike pompeo, delegitimized the afghan government, in effectrecognized it, and contributed very significantly to the collapse of morale in the government and in the afghan army. >> we see what's happening in afghanistan right now, 20 years of u.s. involvement with the nato allies, completely destroyed. >> i think this is changeing the debate from, well, we wanted to get out but we didn't like the execution of the withdrawal, as the american people see the consequences of the withdrawal, the return of the terrorist threat, the negative reaction by our allies, the advantage our opponents may take of it, they will see that it's not just the execution. it was the decision itself that was wrong. >> ambassador bolton, thanks very much for coming in. >> glad to be with you. >> coming up, president biden is facing a crucial test as democrats clash over key pieces of his agenda. i'll ask the chair of the congressional progressive caucus about the status of these negotiations. >>> plus, former president barack obama officially breaks ground on his presid

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nikki haley, mike pompeo. we have a lot of younger people that are coming out.espected conservatives for years, now excluded from your party full she has decided there is no place in the party for donald trump. that is the litmus test right now, is it? in my view there is a place in the republican party for donald trump. we will have this interview next year when we win. and how do you explain the fact... crosstalk. if the republican party does take over the house and we take over the senate is that a damning indictment of the american people? you would have it believe that... it may be that... ..you're voting for extremism, authoritarianism. that is a bunch of garbage. why has your party seemingly decided to fight a culture war against science? i'm thinking particularly of the handled covid—19. get vaccinated. what is your message to senior republicans who are actually fighting so—called mask mandates? if it was up to me and i am not a governor, i would like local communities decide whether or not a mask was appropriate for school at the workplace and all i can

ah, ah, we're back. former us secretary of state and see a chief mike pompeo has refused to confirm or deny a report that washington plotted to assassinate julian assange in 2017 pump. did make it clear though, that whatever the trump team hushed, he's not sorry, couldn't tell you who they have is their sources. but the sources didn't know what we were doing. i make no apologies for the fact that we and the administration were working diligently to make sure we were able to protect this important sensitive information from whether it was cyber in russia or the chinese military. or anyone who is trying to take this information away from us or the yahoo news article on the plan to a doctor and potentially kill julie. nathan's maid global headlines this week after it was corroborated by several former officials. but the story is not new. it was fresh for the last year by journalist mux blumenthal and an invitation for his website. the great on he spoke to this program a little earlier. what i reported relied on not just the testimony of intelligence officers who often lie, but on internal

you then me the it is nearly 20 past here in the russian capital, former us secretary of state mike pompeo has refused to confirm or deny a report that the u. s. plotted to kill julian assange. although upon pay, i made it clear that whatever the trump administration did do he's not sorry. i couldn't tell you who they have is their sources, but the sources didn't know what we were doing. i make no apologies for the fact that we and the administration were working diligently to make sure we were able to protect this important sensitive information from whether it was cyber in russia or the chinese military. or anyone who was trying to take this information away from us. reporters without borders has joined an international outcry over the alleged plot against assange. it goes back to 2017. the press freedom organization said the reports corroborated not by multiple sources show that the wiki leaks found his life is still in danger, and he should be released apparently from a u. k. prison for his own safety. meanwhile, were helix editor in chief christians, ramson discussed the case in our p

he has since said he'd go with what his secretary of defence, general mattis, and cia director mike pompeolike to see waterboarding brought back? because of course barack obama stopped the enhanced interrogation techniques in 2009. i think some form of legal coersion and, and let me emphasise the word "legal" is apt to be necessary, because at the very top, that handful of people, people like khalid sheikh mohammed or abu zubaydah, they are not going to freely give up that information. in fact, this is what i would say... what general mattis had said was — and i've got a lot of respect for the man — but he said, "give me some beer and a pack of cigarettes and i think i could get more." that's the rapport—building approach. yes. here's the problem with that. you've got to ask yourself, would general mattis give up information that could potentially get his countrymen killed and disrupt our attacks for a michelob and winston? he's not going to do that, and neither would ksm. the only thing standing between another catastrophic attack from some senior person is whether or not that person is w

. >> reporter: milley insisting everyone from the secretary of state mike pompeo to the white house chief of staff knew about this. and he pushed back on another story in the book, that in a phone call with house speaker nancy pelosi after the january 6th riot, he agreed with her assessment that trump was "crazy." >> i'm not qualified to evaluate the mental fitness or the health of a former president, present president or anybody else or anybody in this room. that's not my job. that's not what i do. and that's not what i did. >> and martha raddatz with us live from washington. martha, we all watched today as chairman milley was pressed about the danger in afghanistan right now. and whether that country could again become a safe haven for terrorists. >> reporter: exactly, david. and general milley acknowledged thattal qaeda is still operating in afghanistan, saying a reconstitutioned al qaeda or isis with aspirations to attack the united states is a very real possibility. and he summed up our 20-year war, calling it a strategic failure. david? >> all right, martha raddatz leading us off to

nikki haley, mike pompeo. we have a lot of younger people that are coming up. for years, are now excluded from your party. well, she has decided there's no place in the party for donald trump. ah, so that's the litmus test right now, is it? well, in my view... is it? there is a place in the republican party for donald trump. here's — we'll have this interview next year when we win. and how do you explain the fact... crosstalk. that the republican party does take over the house, and we take over the senate, is that a damning indictment of the american people? you would have it to believe that... crosstalk. it may be, it may be... ..that if you vote for the republican party then you're voting for extremism, you're voting for authoritarianism ? that's a bunch of garbage. let's talk specifics then. why has your party seemingly decided to fight a culture war against science? and i'm thinking particularly of the way you've handled — the way your party has handled covid—i9. i — i've, i...get vaccinated. so what's your message to senior republicans like ron desantis an

s. secretary of state mike pompeo has refused to confirm or deny a report that the u. s. had plotted to kill julian assange, where they can pay a, made it clear that whatever the trump administration was doing at the time, he is not sorry. i couldn't tell you who they have is their sources, but the sources didn't know what we were doing. i make no apologies for the fact that we and the administration were working diligently to make sure we were able to protect this important sensitive information from whether it was cited in russia or the chinese military. or anyone who was trying to take this information away from us. those reports of a plan to a duck don kill julian assange made headlines earlier in the week after they were corroborated by several former officials. but the story is not new. it was 1st revealed last year by journalists max blumenthal investigation for his website, the grey zone. and he spoke to my colleague mill harvey. what i reported relied on not just the testimony of intelligence officers who often lie, but on internal documents from the spanish cont

may, june, july we will come paul ryan, vice president pentz and secretary mike pompeo to offer their answers and we ask the answers to these questions be very direct. knowing governor christie as i do, i have a distinct feeling direct answers will not be a problem. [laughter] new and serious foreign-policy challenges have confronted the united states the aggressive reemergence of the coronavirus and the public health measures involving schools and nations disastrous evacuation or someone say retreat from afghanistan. a continued open invitation for millions of undocumented , once known as illegal immigrants to cross the open southern border. governor christie, tough issues lord only knows what others may confront in the future but what i do know is that if a former federal prosecutor who never lost a case and a two-term republican governor who never lost and election in a deep blue state you are no stranger to things called tough fortunately no stranger to the reagan library. i know you remember when you were here ten years ago during the reagan centennial celebration a woman way up

laura: tonight senator mike pompeo and former dni radcliffe indicated they weren't aware of this call and it didn't go through regular order s and if u do freelance foreign-policy the secretary of state was not aware of it, against china at any time, he had these off-line conversations. is that not enough regardless of the content of the conversation but quibbling about some of the lines but isn't that enough that he has to go because of the clear and present danger he presents to the country right now. >> unelected generals don't get to have their own personal cognizance. the general as conceded he had communications with the chinese communist party and its military wing. wend need to see a transcript. the white house needs to release the transcript. they don't need to release it in a classified setting, they need to release it in an unclassified sitting with minimal number of redactions. this is serious. this is more than insubordination. as a people we decided we want to maintain a wall between our commander-in-chief who must be a civilian is duly elected, a wall between the presid

senator mike pompeo and former dni radcliffe indicated that they were not aware of this call and it did not go through regular order. if you're going to start doing freelance foreign policy to this extra estate was not aware of this. and also was not aware of any pending contract that the limitation was going to launch willy-nilly. so what we know is he did have these are fun conversations. is that not enough regardless of even the contents of the conversations. i think he is quibbling about some of the lines. isn't that enough that he has to go because of the clear and present danger that he presents to the country right now? >> well, unelected generals do not get to have their own personal foreign policies. and i think the general has conceded that he did have to mutations with the chinese communist parties. we need to see e-transcript and the white house needs to release the transcript. they don't need to released it a classified setting. they need to released it in an unclassified setting with as minimal number of reductions as possible. this is serious. this is more than just insub

delivered incompetence, you can't make the mistake this man is making, secretary of state under mike pompeon informed, directed the things we needed to do. blinken has been absent at the wheel on everything. is it too much to ask to get the guns and weapons and helicopters out of afghanistan before leaving, to make sure all americans were out, to say he was surprised by the taliban you are not dealing with sunday school teachers which you got to get somebody else and as secretary of state 22 of us think somebody else should be at the helm. jillian: he claims he's holding himself accountable. >> i'm responsible for the decision i make, i'm responsible for the actions of my department. i'm responsible for learning any lessons that flowed from those decisions or actions and i'm responsible for holding myself accountable. jillian: do you think he is holding himself accountable and the second part is he and others are accountable to give information to the american people and there are a lot of questions about that. >> if you listen to his testimony it is just words. when you say you're holding