joining us now, democratic congressman, mike quigley from illinois.se intelligence committee and a member of the congressional ukrainian caucus. so, i'm just going to ask you a human question, a personal question. when you see that. when you see hospitals being shelled. when we hear reports that a woman who was taken out of a hospital pregnant, that she died, her baby died, what goes through your mind? >> we have to do more. our earliest members, probably, of understanding world war ii, were the black and white footage of the blitzkrieg and the devastation left behind on a human scale and we knew that we could never let something like that happen again, and yet it's beginning. >> well, you heard what the ukrainian president said. we just had a member of parliament on. their argument is, every day we wait for it to get worse, so, for example, a nato country gets hit. obviously, poland already feels threatened. our people on the ground there say that the folks are extremely nervous at how close the attacks come to the border. people die every day, the a

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co-chair of the congressional ukraine caucus, democratic congressman mike quigley.ith us, congressman. what can you tell us about the zoom call and which request do you see as actionable on our end of things? obviously, the no-fly zone sounds like something that the white house, nato, not going along with, but are there options short of that? that could be considered? >> yeah. let me begin by the impressions when you got on a call like that. unprecedented, historic, powerful. we're going back monday into session in congress with an agenda that includes a $10 billion aid package to ukraine. half humanitarian, the other half military in nature. i can't think of a more powerful inspirational message to take back with us towards that end. i took notes, but i barely do that and i'm not a stenographer, did the best i can because there's something special about this. try to think of something comparable, it's churchill during the blitz, but clearly president zelenskyy is at even greater risk and so calm and thoughtful, and to your point. i don't think he was just making th

i had a congressman on yesterday, mike quigley, who said ukrainians earning the support of the west for every day that they're able to withstand this russian aggression. is that a -- should that factor into our decisionmaking? >> i believe it does. i mean, after the holocaust, we said never again. so now we have to look at what's going on in we going to find ourselves in a couple of months or a year saying never again. and i'm not dictating that we take these risks but i think we need to consider them. i think that right now we are focused like laser focused on sanctions and additional sanctions and more sanctions. and the impact of the sanctions. they have not -- they have not changed any of mr. putin's behavior. and we need to look at all of the other instruments of a nation's power, diplomatic power, informational power, military power, on top of the economic power, to see how to move forward. >> putin seems weak right now, seems vulnerable. how do we avoid looking back on this moment in three years and wonder, boy, we had a chance here when he was really weak? >> well, i won't argue

joined by one of the intelligence committee members is congressman mike quigley., appreciate you giving us a few minutes. i know you're about to go into the closed session which means you get the scarier stuff, perhaps. let me start with the state of the russian military. one of the former russian aides to boris yeltsin said he spent a bunch of money on the military and the oligarchs pocketed most of it. is that what your u.s. officials see? >> look, i think the world was surprised at some of the incompetence that they're witnessing with the russian military, a convoy 40 miles long stuck in place, logistical nightmares. but in no way do i want to diminish the extraordinary threat they pose to ukraine and europe and the rest of the world. obviously, they have a nuclear arsenal and they have a president who seems to be making any kind of threat that he thinks he can justify. >> now, we know that putin has sabre rattled on nukes, but our folks say he's not actually done anything internally. let me ask you this, congressman. do we have an idea of how their nuclear sor

joining me right now, congressman mike quigley, democrat from illinois.the intelligence committee and also co-chair of the congressional ukraine caucus. good to have you here, my friend. let's get into this. first thing, you were on the call this morning with ukrainian president zelenskyy. from what you can tell us, what was his message, and what is your assessment on the current situation? >> yeah, alex, we're going back to work on monday in washington, d.c., to consider a $10 billion aid package, humanitarian and defense purposes. this was the ultimate, lack of a better way to describe it, a pep talk. you couldn't help being moved by the president's demeanor, calm, powerful, appreciative. i'm no stenographer, but i took notes, and it's just -- it's hard to put into words, the things he said, he said at the end, we are all one big army, undefeatable. we represent an ideal unity worth fighting for. if we win, it's a victory over injustice. you are our biggest hope. help us. don't let our people be exterminated. >> woof. that is courage that he is embodyin

." >> reporter: congressman mike quigley, a cochair of the ukraine caucus, says zelensky's message was-- we need air support. >> either close the skies or give us the planes, one way or the other, because, you know, the battle is often won in the air. he made it clear that that seems to be critical right now. >> reporter: but what ukraineise needs is russian-made migs, an aircraft its pilots are trained to fly. >> there are planes available by nato nations, migs, that the ukrainians can fly. they're waiting to be delivered. >> reporter: lawmakers say president zelensky also called for tougher sanctions, specifically targeting russia's energy sector, a critical part of the country's economy, but largely spared by the current sanctions. it's an especially difficult subject for europe, which relies on russia for about 40% of its natural gas. >> this is an evolution on the sanctions issues, right. and things change overnight. so what were once considered off limits, that's all changed. >> diaz: natalie, another request by president zelensky was to suspend mastercard and visa operations in

i want you to listen to congressman mike quigley, co-chair of the congressional ukraine congress.n't stomach quibbling and drawing lines when putin has already said that the sanctions are war. right? we are delivering lethal aid. do we honestly think putin's going to draw a distinction between the javelins and stingers that are coming across killing russia -- russians very effectively from jets protecting the skies above? >> is he right? is sending them to ukraine simply a distinction without a difference? >> we can't know what distinction putin will draw and that's why many of the allies, in particular, are really nervous that it would be seen as a major escalation and draw us into some spiral that we don't want to go near. right? the same thing applies for the ideas of a no-fly zone. something else that potentially could really help the ukrainians but we, in nato, and the u.s. as well, are dubious about its effectiveness and nervous that it would be seen -- it would draw us into conflict directly with russia. in both cases, we look really weak. this has been a bad week for allia

your congress -- your colleague, congressman mike quigley of illinois, spoke today. >> can we stop talking about ukraine is not being a member of nato? the ukrainian fight, the ukrainian spirit are the very reasons embodied in why we formed nato in the first place. we have to protect them. we have to protect the skies. i know what that means and we don't do things like this rashly. but if we're balancing things, what needs to be on the other side of the scale for us to act? >> do you disagree with them? >> look, i understand how he feels. he represents a large ukrainian d diaspora. our constituents want us to do more. but at the same time they don't want us going to war with russia. so i think we have to continue to walk that line. make sure that we're providing ukraine with all support we can. make sure that we're turning up the pain on russia. i'm very proud to see americans in overwhelming numbers support a ban on russian oil and gas, even though that will mean more pain at the pump. but i don't think we can to go war with russia. >> adam schiff, democrat of california. thank you for yo

i want to play what mike quigley said about this a short time ago on your broadcast and get your reactionmething that has to be first and top of our agenda. yesterday, i addressed the house and i talked about idiots, members of the conservative right, not just elected officials saying things being used on russian media to help their 'cause. they're helping ukraine, russia fight against our ally ukraine. they have to be held to account. >> you see it both on election interference and parrotting russian talking points on ukraine. any consequences for this or is this the new normal? >> there aren't any consequences for this. i hate to say it but the last few years show they aren't. we're seeing normal downward. domestic policy to just interpersonal relationships that would get, forget another president, another politician potentially kicked out of office, and yet, the enabling continues. for me, jim, i think both of these things are important. i don't think we can ignore what donald trump said which, as you pointed out like in 2016, if you've got hillary clinton emails, russia, release them,

. >> i had a democratic congressman from chicago, mike quigley, say to me, you know, ukranians have earnedt, the way they fought these first two weeks. he said, they've earned our support at this point because they are fighting our fight. and he was basically leaning into the idea of a no-fly zone like this. is that where you are? >> i think it deserves serious consideration. i think we need to look at the gamut that's out there for us. we need to calculate the risk and be smart about it. but i think there is also a risk when you're dealing with somebody like putin of not responding boldly enough, because he will take advantage of that. he senses fear. >> admiral stavridis, let's talk about what you heard from jake sullivan. severe consequences. clearly they want to create the ambiguity out there. what's realistic if they use this? what can or should we do? >> i think you have to, at that point, consider aksñ no-fly zoni think is a pretty logical next step. but i'll give you a halfway house. that would be going back to the idea of getting fighters in the hands of the ukrainians. and i get

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