time for happy hour tonight and joining me this evening is our two producer jenny churchill and mike ritz associate of their magazine and reason dot com. hello mike long time no see and ok so glenn beck is in israel right now you remember his restoring honor rally that i had here on the national mall and what's the one in jerusalem called again restoring or starring i don't really know blanking on on what it was but back to the homeland i doubt that today's event compared to the event that he had here which was kind of through the roof and a little scary if you ask me how many people came out only attracted over one thousand back supporters and it was reported that most of them were evangelical christians from the us. i do not remember they did they go there for this or did they happen to be there you know really lou there with them but a lot of you know israelis are looking at it as their third and they're not looking at it so kindly because they think that he just wants to come over and preaches evangelical christian message and that's it and you know he had a big line up at first senat

weeks into the program it's already costing taxpayers more than saving here discuss this with me is mike ritz associate editor at reason magazine and reason dot com thanks so much for being here tonight. first started just give us a few the details in terms of exactly how much is this costing rather than saving the taxpayers so far at least from the cases that have documented ok so there are roughly any given time in florida between fifty thousand one hundred thousand people applying for t.n.f. which is an assistance for needy families program and as of right now our local news stations with a forged document out of forty families who have had to go through the urine test since this program sir july first only to have drugs right so. and one of them is on appeal which means they could be on prescription drugs or something like that so that's a very small portion of the fifty to one hundred thousand people but if you think about this happening at a larger scale if you think of roughly between five and ten percent of people failing and the other ninety five to ninety percent passing and then ha