we heard from mike robson, a former devotee, foreign minister of new zealand. he says washington's ultimate goal for china is to provoke an armed conflicts. the trying. the same thing with taiwan and not to directly involved united states soldiers on the ground at the stage, but to use other countries to be involved. taiwan itself. all the people who have a tie one embarked upon an aggressive strategy both against russia because of its independence policies and china buzz independent polls isn't because it also has a very strong position in terms of the, of all of those, the state governments, all of this could be resolved peacefully, cooperatively, countries can have the differences in box. they don't have to go to war for it. but unfortunately, the final step for the united states, as in any large imperialist country, is to have war to get its way. and that's the big danger for the will. i have a point in time pressure. the u. s. has been pushing its allies, the respect, i think, exports to china, including discussions with japan, the netherlands, i'm fath gr