i personally think that mike rodgers i think i have seen on the fuse he was talking to mike rodgers anden doorsing him or something. he seemed pretty cool. trump laked his ideas. he might be his running mate. i don't know. >> we -- were you saying you don't know a lot about mike rodgers? >> i don't but i saw him endorsing him. but whoever he picks i'm sure nobody will like it. everybody seems to help republicans for whatever reason. but it is like going to a doctor. a doctor, a good guy, speaks well, offered coffee and everybody likes him. but you go home and you still in pain or you want to be the injuring doctor quiet but go homeer feeling great. >> we will leave it there. your thoughts on meek rodgers running former member of the house intel chair. what is the likelihood -- is he on the list? >> i haven't heard he is on the list but you have to understand that this list is changing rammedly. i remember at the end of last year where christie nome was at the top so that is the key you never know. right now the latest name that is really hot is doug b.e.r.g.u.m. trump aides say he is very