claim was denied by intelligence officials, and the chair of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers said he was lying.

claim was denied by intelligence officials, and the chair of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers said he was lying. but your new reporting bolsters snowden's claim. >> right. one of the most amazing parts of the episode have been that james clapper an others lied to the american congress, which everyone acknowledges, about what the nsa is doing. it's amazing he hasn't been prosecuted but still has his job. it lets national security officials continue to lie to the public, which happened in exchange you just referenced. the way that i know exactly what they have the capability to do when spying on americans, the story i'm working on for the last month, publishing this week, very yearly sets forth what these programs are that nsa analysts, low level one, not just those who work for the nsa but private contractors like mr.

so when that shows up at your computer and says this is mike rogers they certify, yes, that's mike rogers here's a company within just a very short time span went from this growing, new e-commerce kind of a company, was actually by a iranians got into that company, they did something called a hand in the middle. i won't -- a man in the middle and hijacked those certificates. now, at that time the iranians but using it for political persecution back in iran. they wanted to know who certain people were talking to, so they hijacked the company's ability on these certificates to say who it was, and it was really the iranians listening in to your conversation, reading your e-mails. that company was gone in about nine months. so hoors this growing company -- here's this growing company, boom, gone. how many jobs lost? hard to measure. what would the value of that company be today? hard to measure. that's gone. i always get the name wrong. it's american superconductor. i got the thumbs up. they decided to do a joint venture in china. they had a technology that would, allows for the patented tech

we'll talk to him and house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers, who says no way. >> 54 timeshis and the other program stopped and thwarted terrorist attacks both here and in europe saving real lives. it this isn't a game. this is

representative mike rogers on "face the nation" the u.s. must exhert influence because they have reason to be concerned. noting 5% of the world's oil and 8% of the trade pass through this canal. >> so, if this spills over and they lose control of egypt they will have economic impacts for us at home and clearly it is to the benefit of the entire region and world and the united states interests to have a calm and sustained democracy grow in egypt. >> reporter: egypt is described a key to the process of the middle east. one tells us the most chaosic they come the more harder it will be to restore democracy. >> where does the u.s. apply the pressure? >> well, the important point is the military. they are going to be doing the shooting, they are the ones that will be have to be restrained if democracy will have to move on. >> thank you, don. [music] >>> it is one effort biggest turnouts ever for the pope. what the vatican hopes it it means for the catholic church. >>> caught off guard, a massive mudslide buries two people in a car, it is what ha

the latest from the chairman of the house intelligence committee, michigan republican congressman mike rogers. and our political roundtable, sex and politics, a bicoastal summer of scandal from new york city to san diego. can anthony weiner stay in the race for mayor of new york? how much more can voters take? >> it is so disrespectful of women, and what's really stunning about it is they don't even realize it. you know, they don't have a clue. >> good sunday morning. a developing story this morning in e egypt where there is a rising death toll. 72 dead in weekend clashes between security forces and supporters of the country's ousted president mohamed morsi. it is the deadliest attack by the security services since the 2011 uprising. secretary of state john kerry monitoring it all is urging egypt's leaders to, quote, help their country take a step back from the brink and allow peaceful protests. back home, the president is focused on the economy, a refocus, if you will, as washington prepares for another high-stakes budget debate. >> but over the past couple of years in particular, washington

we'll talk to him and house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers, who says no way. >> 54 times this and the other program stopped and thwarted terrorist attacks both here and in europe saving real lives. it this isn't a game. this is real. >> schieffer: it wouldn't be summer without a scandal or two and we'll get analysis on the latest in the anthony weiner saga from gather, dee dee myers, and michael gerson, columnist for the "washington post." sports columnist bob nightengale of "usa today" and bill rhoden of the "new york times" are here with the latest on the baseball steroid scandal. and we'll have a report from seth doane, who's just winding up a visit to north korea on the 60th anniversary on the end of the korean war. spies, scandals, and it's all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: and good morning, again. it has been a horrendous weekend in egypt, violent confrontations between the egyptian military and supporters of former president mohammed morsi have left at least 7

republican mike rogers who chairs the house intelligence committee said egypt's military needs that aid, whether you define this week's ouster as a coup or not. >> we should continue to support the military, the one stabilizing force in egypt that i think can temper down the political feuding that you're seeing going on now. >> rogers admits there are going to be disputes over the legality of maintaining aid. so he argues president obama should go to capitol hill and make the case for it himself. most of that aid, jeff, goes directly to the egyptian military. >> glor: nancy cordes in washington, nancy, thank you. in arizona today the fall entire fighters from last week's fire came home. 19 hearses, one for each member of the hot shot crew made the 125 mile trip from the medical examiner's office in phoenix to prescott. american flags draped each of the caskets. and will be turned over to the families at burial. vice president joe biden will be at the memorial service on tuesday. more than half a million defense department employees face furloughs this week. unmarked police cars goes aft

, yes, that is mike rogers. man in the middle and hijacked those the certificates. at that time, they were using it for perth -- for political persecution in iran. they wanted to know who people were talking to, so they hijacked the certificates to see to it was. it was the iranians reading your e-mails. that company was gone in about nine months. here is this growing company,boom, gone. what was the value of that company? hard to measure. another name, american superconductor. they decided to do a joint venture in china. they had a technology that would allow for the conversion of solar and wind and getting into the grid, basically. if the engineers heard me explain it that way, they would probably be all over me. but in a nutshell, that is what it was. the company was worth about $6.3 billion. they do the right thing and do a joint venture with the chinese government. in less than a year, the chinese basically steals every bit of their intellectual property, cancel their contracts, threw them out of the countr

and bob's guests this sunday on sune the nation" including congressman mike rogers, rs,ublican of michigan; and democratic senator mark udall of colorado. this weekend marks 60 years since the armistice that ended the korean war. rmsth korea is mark the date rth a massive festival. seth doane was given a rare opportunity to travel to the capital, pyongyang. tonight he reports on what the north koreans allowed him to see. >> reporter: only in north korea etuld a flower show get this much international press, but we're guests of the government, and they select what we see. iois pyongyang flower exhibition was set up to mark 60 years since the end of the korean war. it made for an odd arrangement of missles and begonias. this guide told us she was asked to assist here. her usual day job is with the some americans would think it's odd that in a country that has trouble feeding its own people and is at the center of so many international controversies, that we're being brought to see this flower show. what did she say? >> she said it's a great t's aure to see you. >> reporter: she said it's a p

so the senate intelligence chairs senator dianne feinstein and mike rogers come out and say that this is unwise we can't be defending the funding this n.s.a. program that's that's helped save lives so really has a long way to go to the past but it's really important because this is the first time that members of congress are going to be put on record on what they think about about the n.s.a. spying program that's been revealed from edward snowden's leaks now is it fair to say that none of this would be possible without the leaks. yeah i think so i mean clearly this this provision wouldn't really have any contacts without the leaks or would even have a chance to limit the surveillance powers of the n.s.a. without anyone knowing that this stuff was going on but we've seen a lot of other action on the hill since these leaks came out in the senate the chairman of the judiciary committee patrick leahy is moving a bill that he says he has sixty votes for that's going to change the electronic communications privacy act to prevent law enforcement agencies from confiscating people's e-mails an

. >> us intelligence committee chairman mike rogers, the michigan republican said the panel harbor'sery strong concerns about the strength of the administration's plans. the committee haseservations. other lawmakers drafted amendments to a pending defense authorization bill aimed at forcing the administration to set here to the war powers act and not deploy u.s. troops absent congressional authorization. minority whip of maryland told fox news that that would not cause great problems for the white house, but other democrats demanded more and put. >> give us a vote. that estimate. let as meet our responsibility. there will be men and women that will go into harm's way, stumble ahead because we did not stand up and take responsibility. >> the house top republican offered only ter support for the administration's anti program. >> i tnk their effort to help the right set of rebels is in our nation's best interest. >> beyond fears of the u.s. waiting into another mideast war lawmakers expressed concern that weapons could fall into the hand of syrian rebels. still others on the right voice

bob schieffer welcomes mike rogers and colorado democratic senator mark udall.n c-span radio, brought to you by a public service by the networks and c-span. rebroadcast of the show begin at noon eastern with "meet the press," 1:00 is abc's "this -- k,"@2:00 is fox news " listen to them all on c-span acrosst 91 point fm, the country on channel 119 on xm sattellite radio, or you can listen online at cspanradio.org. collects the first lady represents the schism of the united states of what women are supposed to be today. are we we supposed to be mama chief? are we supposed be first mate? to navigate that if the president is supposed to be head of state and head of government, is the first lady supposed to be the ideal fashionista? is she supposed to be mom in chief? if she is going to be first helpmate she needs to understand what is going on in the administration. she needs to understand what is going on in the country, and she needs to understand her husband's political agenda. you cannot separate how the first lady presents herself. and the conflicting expectati

the two intel chairs, dianne feinstein and mike rogers both say it caused severe damage, i mean evenn ker raoerbgs secretary of state said people will die because of this disclosure. how in the world can greenwald claim, oh, none of this harmed national security. he doesn't know that, does he? >> jim and i actually are in total agreement on this particular addition in that the burden should not be on greenwald. the burden is on snowden, that is where the focus should be. and indeed just like james rosen, or jim or myself, and particularly greenwald happens to be an advocacy journalist who stands for something. he does have a point of view, the word journalist encompasses a lot of things and and that's one of the things that greenwald does. greg: would you agree that there is no way that glen greenwald would know that this harmed stphaeugs tphal security? >> susan rice has said she doesn't know of any evidence. greg: would you agree that dianne feinstein and mike rogers and secretary of state john kerry would know better than glen greenwald whether it hurt national security? >> look,

privacy technology project responded by saying -- meanwhile, house intelligence committee chair mike rogers and democratic ranking member dutch brokers parker issued a joint statement that justice had been certification. served. adding -- today we spend the hour on the manning verdict and its implications. we begin with julian assange, the founder of wikileaks. according to numerous press reports, the conviction makes it increasingly likely the u.s. will prosecute assange as a co- conspirator. prosecutors portrayed him as an information anarchist encouraging manning to leaked hundreds of thousands of documents. ulian assange is with us via video stream from the ecuadorian embassy in london. as he wasfugee there wanted for sex charges in sweden. the british garment promises to arrest him if he steps foot on british soil. this is his first interview with a u.s. tv show since the verdict. what is your response to the verdict? >> thank you. first of all, i must correct you. i have been given political asylum in the embassy in relation to the case in progress in the united states. it is a common

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are we going to listen to folks like mike rogers who say trust us when we still have someone like jamesill being paid. he worked directly for the president of the united states. we have much work to do. this story is far from done. >> joe johns is live with us from our d.c. bureau. let's talk about the comments by the attorney general or snowden's asylum request. he wrote that letter challenging the question. why does he say it's without merit and what are the chances he'll be listened to? >> reporter: this is very tricky. it's about public relations and optics between the united states and russia. the attorney general wrote this letter to the russian minister of justice confirming that edward snowden is not going to face the death penalty. he's not going to be tortured if he's returned to the united states to stand trial. for those of us in the united states this is a no brainer. the u.s. has never suggested any of those things would happen. snowden has. the attorney general felt it necessary to put all of this down on paper. the letter state what is we already know to be fact that the

. >> reporter: that was republican congressman mike rogers from michigan, excuse me. earlier this week, an amendment to support nsa's ability to collect so much informs very nearly passed with support from 111 democrats and 94 republicans, with strong bipartisan opposition to data collection and dick durbin said heed would support that amendment in the upper chamber. >> i think we should limit the metaidatasm the notion that we will collect all phone records, on the off chance that someone in that area code may be a suspect at a later time goes way too far. >> reporter: but a key republican senator said he has been assured that nobody at the nsa has the ability to listen to any phone conservation or monitor any email without a court order. >> eric: peter, thanks so much. >> jamie: keeping an eye on heavy rains that are triggering flashfloods in north carolina. already, there is rushing water, swamping cars in buildings and forcing an emergency swift-water rescue. janice dean is live. there is so much water accumulateing there. >> absolutely. we have this front moving

are we going to listen to folks like mike rogers and dianne feinstein who say trust us, when we stille someone like james clap his or her lied to congress. is he still being paid. he is still serving this country. he worked directly for the president of the united states. we have much work to do. this story is far from done. >> laura: meanwhile attorney general eric holder has made an offer to russia telling him we won't torture or kill snowden if they hand him over. well, joining me from new york with reaction, fox news host geraldo rivera. >> hi. >> laura: geraldo, first his father comes out. snowden's father comes out o, defends him, defends his integrity. surprise is there? >> no. i find it very hard not to be sympathetic to the dad. the dad is doing what any father would do, i think, under the circumstances. my son is a computer nerd and i could see, you know, he and his friends are so behind edward snowden, i could see how there is, you know, kind of ethical or more ambiguity about what he did. look what happened in the congress of the united states yesterday you had 94 house re

. >> reporter: house intelligence committee chair mike rogers, michigan republican, says the panel harborstrong concerns about the strength of the administration's plans, but that the committee with reservations now a sense to them. other lawmakers, however, drafted amendments to a pending defense authorization bill aimed at forcing the administration to adhere to the war powers act and not deploy u.s. troops, absent congressional authorization. minority whip steny hoyer told fox news that would not cause great problems for the white house, but other democrats demanded more input. >> give us a vote. let us debate. let us meet our responsibility. there will be men and women that will go into harm's way, stumbled ahead because we did not stand up and take responsibility. >> reporter: the how's top republican offered terse support for the anti-assad program. >> i think their effort to help the right set of rebels in syria is in our nation's best interest. >> reporter: beyond fears of the u.s. wading into another mid east war, lawmakers express concern that american supplied weapons could fall

the latest from the chairman of the house intelligence committee, michigan republican congressman mike rogersl roundtable, sex and politics, a bicoastal summer of scandal from new york city to san diego. can anthony weiner stay in the race for mayor of new york? how much more can voters take? >> it is so disrespectful of women, and what's really stunning about it is they don't even realize it. you know, they don't have a clue. >> good sunday morning. a developing story this morning in e egypt where there is a rising death toll. 72 dead in weekend clashes between security forces and supporters of the country's ousted president mohamed morsi. it is the deadliest attack by the security services since the 2011 uprising. secretary of state john kerry monitoring it all is urging egypt's leaders to, quote, help their country take a step back from the brink and allow peaceful protests. back home, the president is focused on the economy, a refocus, if you will, as washington prepares for another high-stakes budget debate. >> but over the past couple of years in particular, washington has taken its eye

and joining us now from capitol hill, mike rogers.ing weapons to the syrian opposition? >> well, i have said in the past, wolf, that i think it's very important that we re-establish with the syrian opposition in a way that's helpful to the united states. i think we have long damaged that relationship. and so i've laid out some things that i thought publicly we should be engaged in. i do think that the administration has presented a plan that did not get wild reviews on the committee. including from me to do certain things in syria of which i can't provide the details obviously. i do think that we have to do something to establish that relationship not only with the opposition, but our arab league partners of which has deteriorated greatly after two years of doing nothing. and it's created real problems for us. >> how do you guarantee that if the u.s. were to supply weapons, whether shoulder-fired missiles or anti-tank rockets or whatever, if the u.s. were to do so, they wouldn't wind up in the homes of al nassera or al qaeda supporter

you hear the house intel chair mike rogers saying no way, who do you believe? >> i believe snowden. you know, you look at these documents, they don't look fake to me. it appears that an analyst can put in your cell phone number, your credit card number and come up with these -- what's called a skip trace and run through all the data bases, whether it's verizon or at&t. and pretty well get a clear picture of you. you know, i always go with the documents. the government at this point has been trying to down play this invasion of privacy. i think so far they're failing. right now i'd go with snowden's version. >> so far you bring up the government. we've heard, ben ferguson, part of the reason, the justification behind this kind of surveillance program is because this is stopping dozens of terror attacks. we saw senator leahy there grilling this nsa official. he also said today he has seen the classified information and he actually believes that not to be the case. what do you make of that? >> you know, well, i look at this and one of the things that we just heard from snowden, he said

. >>> i'm joined now by congressman mike rogers. mr. chairman, thank you for joining us. you about esd ward snowden and his options. but first i want to pick up on things that i talked about earlier. and one of the things both of them said was this is a really good time for the u.s. to exert some of its influence. and by influence, i think sometimes we think the money that we give them. do you think that the u.s. should stop playing games and call a coup a coup. or do you think the u.s. should continue giving made to the egyptian mill tearian egypt in jen? >> i think the irony of us not falling the law after the egyptian crisis would be too much to handle. i do believe the law is very clear on this. i think what the president needs to do and i do think the egyptian military is the one stable factor. they were great and did not over react during the mu bar rick overthrow. i think they were reacting to the calls of the more moderate faxes in egypt. they should be continued to be rewarded for that type of activity. and it is the one cultural structure stabilizing force in eg

house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers says egypt's stability is key across the globe. >> it will have real economic impacts for us at home, and clearly it is to the benefit of the entire region, world, united states interest to have a calm and sustained i think democracy grow in egypt. >> his remarks come as egypt's interim government issued a new order that could set the stage for more confrontation inside that country. connor powell in the mid east newsroom with more. >> reporter: tensions are mounting in egypt as new military backed transitional government is on the verge of a massive crackdown on muslim brotherhood. yesterday, egypt's military opened fire on peaceful protesters demonstrating in support of morsi. dozens were killed, hundreds injured. however, muslim brotherhood continues its protest, vowing to stay in the street until morsi is released and the military restores him to power. now there are reports that the interim government has granted the military the right to arrest civilians, a power that potentially signals a massive crackdown on the muslim brother

yesterday house intelligence committee chair mike rogers offered this explanation. >> i would not trycircumvent the law by calling this something it is not. clearly, the muslim brotherhood was using the instruments of democracy to try to islamicize, which means the brotherhood going through all of the agencies of the government and trying to take over. >> we'll discuss the definition of revolution and get a live report from cairo coming up next. hi! i'm sandy, and i know savings. this metal frame pool on rollback, you save $80! and this 4 burner grill on rollback, you save $11. get more summer for your money at walmart's super summer savings event. >>> egypt has gone from coup, or not a coup, to chaos. demonstrators came out for another day of protests in cairo today. according to the ministry of help, 51 people were killed and 435 were injured early this morning when violence erupted as supporters of mohamed morsi held a rally to demand his release. military officials said this morning that one police officer and one army officer were also killed. egypt has been without a fully funct

are we going to listen to folks like mike rogers and dianne feinstein who say trust us when we still have someone like james clapper who lied to congress? he's still being paid. he's still serving this country. he works directly for the president of the united states. >> the attorney general has written a letter to the russians saying that the united states would not seek the death penalty against snowden trying to seek extradition but there is still no treaty and no movement on that front. chris, we saw an extraordinary vote on the house side which was a very close vote, closer than anyone expected it would be. snowden has changed the debate about the fisa court and about the surveillance programs. >> snowden has won here, andrea. his whole movement it was to get americans talking about what was happening and he has really done that. we saw on the house floor, you split a lot of republicans who had been national security republicans. the more libertarian wing was almost able to defund that entire program which would have shut it down. that was pretty amazing. then you had the spat b

. >> reporter: republican congressman mike rogers, the chairman of the house intelligence committee has proposed legislation that would deny issuing visas to chinese citizens involved in cyber theft, and to freeze their assets, too. >> this is all about making sure that those actors that we can identify, and believe me we can identify them. they understand that they understand that there is a cost for their cyber espionage. >> reporter: democratic senator carl levin and three senate co- sponsors want to take the profit out of cyber-crime. they've introduced legislation that block products that used stolen intellectual property from entering the u.s. market. >> you got to hit people in their wallet. if you want to finally act against cyber theft of your intellectual property, if you really want to stop it you got to have some remedy that bites >> reporter: some cyber security experts demand a more direct approach. hackers stealing your intellectual property over the internet? use the internet to go steal it back! right now, that's against the law. dmitri alperovitch: >> what we want is f

you obviously disagree with the chairman of your committee, mike rogers. >> i do.e the phone book analogy, there's a lot of obviously information, a lot of data that the government is gathering which i don't think the government has the need to gather and this is one of the critical questions. i think when we look at those nsa programs, we should be asking are they constitutional, are they getting effective results and are they structured in a way that minimizes any imposition on the privacy of the american people. certainly on that last criteria, is there a different way this program could be structured where it wouldn't be necessary for the government to get all those phone books. i think the answer is absolutely yes. and in fact just last week the director of the nsa disclosed publicly there was no technological reason why the telephone companies couldn't hold their own data and only be queried when we had reasonably that a number was connected with a terrorist plot. i think we can get the same national security results in terms of protecting the public without

mike rogers, the chairman of the house intelligence committee, who has been a dogged supporter of theserograms, you know, to hold the vote down to win yesterday's vote, he went to the house floor and promised that this fall when he develops an intelligence policy bill, he's going to put more safeguards in there, more privacy protections. i talked to dianne feinstein, chairman of the senate intelligence committee. she said she met for four hours yet on this matter. they just are feeling enormous pressure, and they're going to have to respond. they can't just dig in their heels and say everything is fine. >> you're absolutely right, but for those who support the current surveillance program as it stands, they point to how we, meaning the american people, felt after 9/11 and what people were willing to give up. god forbid another incident of any magnitude happens here in the united states. these numbers that we see from our new nbc news/wall street journal poll can quickly shift with what happens after something so tragic. >> absolutely, that is true. events change public opinion, because

you have, for example, mike rogers, the ranking member as well of the intelligence committee saying justiceerved today. meanwhile, the defense attorney for bradley manning is saying today is a good day, referring to the fact his client was found not guilty of giving information to it the enemy. he still faces a maximum of 136 years in prison. what's your reaccidetion, jane? >> i think it was good he wasn't found guilty of aiding the enemy. if he was, it would have turned the espionage act into a state's secret act and called into question the ability of anyone to do foreign war reporting. obviously, everyone is really pleased. i don't think the defense expected he would be found innocent of aiding the enemy. it's still quite serious that he has been found guilty of five charges under the espionage act, which is an outdated act that was meant to suppress anti-war sentiment after world war i. people are very concerned that he's going to be eligible for 136 years in prison, as you said. >> which is why it's intriguing that some progressives see this as a victory. i understand the argument of a

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me now, the chairman of the house intelligence committee, republican congressman from michigan mike rogers. chairman, always good to have you back. >> david, thanks for having me. >> before we talk about the nsa programs, let me mention this developing story in e egypt this morning. you have violence in the streets. off provisional government. really the military cracking down on protesters with dozens who have been killed already. i wonder whether you believe that the tacit support by this administration for a military coup is not leading to stability as was forecast but leading to something far worse. >> well, i do think that in a circumstance like egypt you need to pick your friends, and clearly i think the muslim brotherhood-led government, although democracy without freedom is certainly no democracy at all, and that's what they were trying to get to, changing the constitution, reducing the rights of women in e egypt, reducing the rights of religious minorities in e egypt. they weren't concerned about the economy at all. they were concerned about pushing towards an islamist state. to t

to be more legislation coming down the pipe to even the hard line defenders of this program like mike rogers who's the house chair of the intel committee they're going to have to what i'm guessing is some watered down legislation just to kind of put people at ease a little bit and i guess the odds are fairly high that they'll do that and they thought on the other hand the. program is still up and running on the walls if that's true but if we can put that vote into context this was a vote that nobody expected it was not expected to even get a vote and as soon as it was scheduled a vote the head of the n.s.a. came to the hill the very next day for four hours of classified briefings two hours with democrats two hours with republicans the white house had a full course lobbying on this republican leadership they actually did offer a watered down amendment to give members in a chance to express their anger without actually changing policy and leader pelosi whip democrats on this after all that they still only won by twelve votes seven members could have flipped this vote and what's really interest