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i am the reporter form the washington post and i am pleased to be here today with mike rogers and chris this week president trump and lawmakers with the national security community have been discussing russia's meddling in the 21 -- 2016 election nasa want to say i don't think we could have time to thisti event on the monday to friday we just experienced but mike rogers chairman of house intelligence committee through 2015 and as an fbi agent now a national security commentator and a host of a popular show declassified. chris was a former coordinator of cyberissues at the d state department as a top cyberdiplomat with president trump and president obama as senior director for cyberpolicy and the acting cybercoordinator. thank you both for being here. i like to remind our audience in the room you can tweet your question to preview your #. i cannot imaginee a better week to talk at the washington post about cybersecurity as the nation andit our position on the world stage. i want to start by asking a big open question what did you think about the president's comments standing next to vlad

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i mean, i listened to your discussion between mike rogers and jane harman at the top of the hour. this is not just a political calamity. this is a real concern for our national security. the fact that vladimir putin holds all the cards here because they were alone for two hours and even the president's national security team, susan glasser, wrote a great piece in "the new yorker" yesterday revealing that even his own national security team doesn't know what happened in that room. i mean, this is a frightening situation. as far as the politics goes, you know, what's interesting is you remember donald trump once said i could stand on 5th avenue and shoot someone and my people would still stay with me. we're putting this to the test right now because this was a blatant submission to a genuine foe of our country on a global stage and, you know, variously polls say 68% to 79% of republicans approve of what he did in that summit and that's what gives him encouragement. he always plays to the base and foot to the pedal saying, you know what? i'm doubling down and bringing putin here. >>

mike rogers was the republican chairman of house intelligence committee until 2015 and earlier in the square was an fbi agent. is now a national security commentator on cnn and the host of popular show, declassified, which explores the stories that american spies. chris painter was a former coordinator for cyber issues at the state department where he was the nation's top cyber diplomat serving under both president trump and president obama. before joining the state department chris served in the obama white house as senior director for cyber policy and the acting cyber coordinator at the national security council. thank you for being here. i'd like to my audience in the room and online you can tweak your questions to us and tried ask someone at the end. and please use the hashtag #202live. i will try to get to them later if i can. so again, i can't imagine a beta week to have of you talking at the "washington post" about our cybersecurity as a nation and our position on the world stage. i want to start by asking you guys a big, open question. what did you think about the president's

mike rogers was the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee until 2015. and earlier this his career was an fbi agent. he's now a national security commentator on cnn and the host of a popular show declassified, which explores the stories of american spies. chris painer also with us was the former coordinator for cyber issues at the state department where he was the nation's top cyber diplomat, serving under both president trump and president obama, before joining the state department, chris served in the obama white house as the senior director for cyber policy and the acting cyber coordinator of the national security council. thank you both for being here. >> thanks for having us. >> i would like to remind our audience in the room that on-line you can tweet your questions to us. i will try to ask some of them at the end. please use the hashtag 202 live. i will try to get to them later, if i can. so again, i can't imagine a better week to have both of you here talking at the washington post about our cybersecurity as a nation and our position in the -- on

mike rogers, it's been a bizarre week. was just saying to john yesterday, did helsinki only happen on monday? i cannot believe everything, all of the different topsy-turvy turns this week has taken capped by the president extending an invitation to vladimir putin to the white house this fall. can you just make sense of everything that we have seen this week? >> no. i cannot. what worries me about that, i thought dan coata fine job of trying to play it off and try to make a -- put a little humor on that problem, but that is significant problem if you're director of national intelligence coordinating the information flowing through the intelligence agencies, doesn't know what happened in the meeting which means there was no agenda to try to accomplish and then no debriefing on what that could or couldn't accomplish in the meeting, all of that is problematic. what bothers me most is vladimir putin had the defense minister say we have been so successful in information operations, we are creating special units in the defense mi

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i want to bring in mike rogers. a former chairman of the house intelligence committee.ood evening, sir, nice to have you on. i hear you're like the energizer bunny today, up since 3:00 this morning. >> i flew out, did an interview and no woe is me, i'm fine. >> the nerg energizer bunny. >> >> now, i was going to give it to wolf and now all you. >> i have been having trouble saying words, i haven't been drinking but with words coming slowly. >> we have been talking about rudy guiliani moving the goalpost in this investigation and went from there wasn't a meeting to collusion -- he knew nothing about a meeting. what's the strategy here? >> i know rudy guiliani and he's a fine man. a good lawyer. i knew him when he was doing mob cases in new york when i was an fbi agent in chicago. i think he's having a bad week here. it appears to me there is no coordination between what the white house communication shop is doing or at least his lawyer shop is doing, i should say, the president and what this guiliani shop is doing, they have this go out and fix this thing. guiliani isn't

for too long, whether it's a company and mike rogers just mentioned this, chairman rogers just mentioned this, about this chal challenge that he sees, no company out there, no state out there will be able to overcome this challenge by themselves. we have to work together. we are pushing a collective security model, a collective defense model where we work together to manage risk, to counter the threat over there, and that's the intelligence community and that's the department of defense, and we address risk here domestically. that's where my organization is -- >> speaking of working together, the justice department just announced this new policy that's going to start alerting the public about foreign influence campaigns as part of its efforts to combat these attempt to disrupt u.s. democracy. where does -- where do you fit into that? where does your agency fit into that? >> there are a number of efforts across the u.s. government to operate in the -- to counter those influence operation space. this is a little technical and there's a bit of this that we've built out. but foreign -- and m

>> first while you are right about there had been other areas but certainly when chairman mike rogers and the ranking member were running the committee into things on a bipartisan basis. they didn't agree on every issue were to say that they were handmaidens of the intelligence committee. they were tough. but fair. certainly i do not agree with everything they said and did. but they were bipartisan and that carry great weight. now are in a situation where you have one party aligned with the white house which is strange. wade is the poster work is there's three coequal branches of government. they're supposed oversee the executive branch not align with it. and that's an unusual situation. there's never been quite another thing like that in the history of the committee. it's not good for system or for oversight. >> it will take time to climb out of that hole. we are conscious of the fact on the committee that you need to trust us that we worry about leaks and -- what is going to be done with a sense of organization that we hand over will abuse or political purposes or oversight? >> a bi

>> search in the winter man mike rogers did things on a bipartisan basis. certainly not to say and didn't agree with everything. so that carry great weight. and to have that party aligned with the white house. the way it is supposed to work with the three coequal branches of government. nobody could oversee so it was an unusual. i don't think it is good for our system. >> and i will take some time to climb out. and then to trust us. >> and with this sense of information that we hand over or is this used for genuine oversight? >> the book is called facts and fears. and how challenging it is to deliver truth to power when it becomes objective and a lot of people are talking about that. how serious is this historically? you read the newspapers of 100 years ago are we in a place now we have never seen before? or is that an echo? >> in my memory. so i don't recall that circumstance. maybe because i was young and naÏve that i never felt our institutions were really in jeopardy. and not just a cell phone but not like the intelligence community without law enforcem

in 2017, there was daylight between the nsa and mike rogers, the fbi and james comey, and interviewednalysts, the differences were not politically motivated. and opposition research by christopher steele and paid for, no role in the 2017 assessment. is unverified. in a separate development federal judge ordered special counsel lawyers and national security adviser mike flynn to appear in a dc court july 10th. under both sides, flynn at sentencing put off for the third time. clinton supporters emphasize new information the december guilty plea pointing to republican backed congressional report, deputy fbi director andrew mccabe and james comey, agents found no sign of deception during flynn's interview. legal analysts warn against jumping to conclusions about next week's status hearing. >> flynn stood up in court, he said he lied, and if he ended it it all goes away as well as this one. >> the house judiciary committee for agent stzrok to testify in a tent, he is one of two agents. shannon: protest against government agencies, latest on political instability and the democratic national

i know just recently the ambassador from israel, along with cnn's mike rogers were here discussing middle east peace and global security and other weigh ty topics. very important probably a little bit more exciting than health care. but i'm here to talk to about health care. instead of the present, i would like to talk to you about the future. and the future of health care, to me, is a woman like marie. i diabetes, she has had it for 35 years. she does everything a patient should do. she exercises, every day, and she religiously takes her medications. yet, during only three periods in her life did she have her type i diabetes under control. two times were when she was pregnant with her two children, she received extra attention, extra checkups, ultrasounds, nonstress checks and other test make sure that her and her unborn children were in good shape. fourthly, they were -- fortunately, they were and she controlled her diabetes well. that this was an enormously expensive care. the third time has been in this past year. marie started seeing a new endocrinologist. he asked if she would allow

>> well, mike roger stone has been a long person of interest in the special counsel's investigation and that is the in no small part because contact with hacker group 2.0 which was operated by russian intelligence officers, investigators have already interviewed a long list of folks with close ties with roger stone and kristin davis would be the latest edition to that group. in addition, roger stone one of the best friends and called witch hunt, quote, in terms of russian collusion, i know nothing, they seem to be going back with him and picking up people who work for roger and some people who are disgruntled. while davis and stone have worked together on various projects over the year, someone said in the interview last night that she wasn't working with him in 2015 and the reasonable reason he can think why mueller's team would want to speak to davis because of close ties to him and in open hopes of finding something. mike: we are knowing about a conversation before he was president trump, what can you tell us about? >> sources tell fox news this recording was made in 2016, a couple o

>> well, mike roger stone has been a long person of interest in the special counsel's investigation and that is the in no small part because contact with hacker group 2.0 which was operated by russian intelligence officers, investigators have already interviewed a long list of folks with close ties with roger stone and kristin davis would be the latest edition to that group. in addition, roger stone one of the best friends and called witch hunt, quote, in terms of russian collusion, i know nothing, they seem to be going back with him and picking up people who work for roger and some people who are disgruntled. while davis and stone have worked together on various projects over the year, someone said in the interview last night that she wasn't working with him in 2015 and the reasonable reason he can think why mueller's team would want to speak to davis because of close ties to him and in open hopes of finding something. mike: we are knowing about a conversation before he was president trump, what can you tell us about? >> sources tell fox news this recording was made in 2016, a couple o

our concern -- now i'm speaking specifically, jim comey and john brennan and mike rogers as well.t is it the russians were doing to interfere in our political processes. as i said before, i've seen a lot of bad stuff in my 50-plus years in my intelligence but nothing that disturbed me as much as this. it was about the russians. and there was no attempt to undermine president-elect and later president trump. it's an absurd allegation. >> why do you think it's taken the president so long to finally, finally acknowledge that russia was, in fact, behind the cyber attack of the 2016 presidential election. >> only because he was kind of forced to. again, to dan coates' great credit, i think his forthright statement about the threat that russia poses to this country sort of, i think, helps force him to at least grudgingly or reluctantly agree. although as he did when he read his statement the other day -- yesterday, i guess it was. of course, he does his ad lib, it could have been others. no, it wasn't others. it was the russians. nobody else. it wasn't the chinese, a guy in new jersey.

. >> "the new york times" has a lengthy article on what happened at the briefing when you, mike rogers, james comey, gave the president that briefing that you gave in january of 2016, presenting evidence of putin's involvement in hacking. "the times" says it included information including from a source so sensitive it couldn't even be put in the presidential daily briefing for obama, that it had to be given to him in a white sealed envelope. so president trump has known about this long before this recent incident. >> the refusal to accept information that he doesn't want to hear. and from the outset, when we presented our briefing on the intelligence community assessment, and we did go into some detail about the sensitivity of the sources which gave us such high confidence, and we've had insight into that by virtue of the special counsel's recent indictment of the 12 gru officers, you read that carefully and you get some insight into the forensic detail that we had. but nevertheless, the president could not and cannot again today accept the extent, magnitude, depth, aggressiveness of t

what about people like ryan fitzpatrick, mike rogers, good republicans to say something odd is goingn between the russians and president trump. >> jesse: it is more than retribution against what you call the deep state, juan. some of the things they've said have been outrageous, as greg mentioned. but now that you have the fisa warrant, carter page. it shows extreme abuse of the system. they did not disclose it was funded by the dnc. did not disclose it was funded by hillary. this was never verified at all. any of this information. >> juan: this is not true, america. >> jesse: juan, i read the whole thing. did you? >> juan: yes. not only did i read it, i had to discuss it on fox news sunday. >> jesse: was the dossier the primary element in obtaining the warrant? it was right there in front of the judge and they did not disclose it was funded by hillary. >> juan: they said it was funded by his political opponents. >> jesse: it was funded by a candidate, juan. a candidate. >> juan: did you see he didn't name donald trump? he is candidate 1. >> jesse: if you are going to lie to a fisa j

. >> reporter: former house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers who worked on the president's transition was just as candid. >> it was setup to helsinki i think candidly was a disaster. so you had the president of the united states really crossing europe insulting many of our allies and, you know, a little bit rude. my mother used to say rude is a very poor imitation of strength. >> some white house staffers are angry with dan coats, but the director of intelligence insists coats is exactly who the president needs on his team, someone to be honest with mr. trump even when he doesn't want to hear it. as for the michael cohen saga, the first lady has put out on a statement on behalf of mr. trump. it's a very brief statement. it says mrs. trump remains focused on her role as a mother and as first lady of the united states. we should point out the first lady did travel up to bedminster this weekend without the president. >> the president now separately flew up on air force one to new jersey as well. jim acosta, thank you very much. >>> also breaking tonight we're learning that rob

this morning, he also carved out time to attack the nsa, led by admiral mike rogers tweeting -- >> if you're keeping track at home, that's two more new breaks between the president and his own intelligence agencies. he may find himself at odds with the bipartisan assessment of the senate intel committee. in the last hour, they released their report on the intelligence community assessment that russia interfered in the 2016 election in order to help trump and hurt clinton. did you get that? they agreed that the intelligence community assessment to help trump and hurt clinton is true, writing the conclusions of the assessment are sound. here to discuss the day's surreal developments, some of our favorite reporters and friends. joining me now is hans nichols, and with us at the table, jason johnson, politics editor, and jonathan capehart. most msnbc contributors. i have to start with you, malcolm. let me read you this list. who says russia meddled to help trump? the cia, fbi, dni, senate republicans, senate democrats, house democrats and trey gowdy, who doubts that russia meddled to help

i'm sure you watched the hearing two months ago when the chiefs of the intelligence agencies, mike rogers they were asked by senators whether they've been instructed by this president to do something about election interference, to take action to prevent those attacks, and they all answered no. how is that presidential leadership? >> oh, i think there's leadership there in making sure the ballot box is secure. >> but the intelligence chiefs said they're not told -- >> fraud and abuses are outlined, too. >> they have been told they've been given those specific instructions by the president. you, like me, want the system to be the integrity to be unchallenged there. but doesn't that disappoint you as an american? >> well, let's just be clear. each state controls its election process and making sure the integrit the. we in the federal want to make sure the election process is secure. there have been resources given to the states to make sure that the process is secure. and the fact is, you know, people filter this information. people are not stupid. people get this information and they come

gloria borger and mike rogers and matthew rosenberg national correspondent for the "new york times," international security analyst. chairman rogers, you have the invitation being extended or us learning about it on the same day director coats wasn't informed of the invite and doesn't know what happened in the private meeting between president trump and vladamir putin, should that be cause for concern? >> absolutely. i think putin is getting exactly what he wants. he set up the conditions for the meeting and got trump to meet alone by the way, trump said he didn't want leaks, but he met alone and there weren't a lot of prepared staff people around the table to deal with thorny issues and subsequent to the meeting he began his campaign for the next one. about $100 billion in u.s. debt, treasury bonds russia has dumped since may. after the meeting, he starts broadcasting how his military prowess and technology exceeds, in an implied way, the united states of america, does two things, tells folks thinking whose team they should be on. sends a clear message russia might want to be on tha

this morning, he also carved out time to attack the nsa, led by admiral mike rogers tweeting -- >> ifou're keeping track at home, that's two more new

. >> reporter: the former head of the national security agency mike rogers warns a summit in d.c.ea. >> you don't want to roll out the carpet for a guy murdering dissidents, reporters as we speak, occupies 20% of our ally, georgia, annexed crimea. the list is huge and long and don't give him a parade with a state dinner in washington. >> reporter: trump ignoring those warnings telling cnbc, he's been tougher on russia than his predecessor. >> look at the sanctions i have put on. look at the diplomats i threw out. look at the things i have done. nobody else did what i have done. obama didn't do it. obama was a patsy for russia. >> reporter: while warning that if talks go south -- >> if that doesn't work out, i'll be the worst enemy he's ever had. >> reporter: now a visit to washington and the white house is much different than a visit to a neutral site like helsinki. it must be much more higher profile and show a chummier responsibility than said in the past for vladimir putin and the russia president an stunning timing around the midterms. >> can it be chummier than what we saw in

in fact, two former intel chiefs, jim clapper and mike rogers, they disputed brennan's claims that the dossier was not part of their assessment. rogers in a letter to congress and clapper last october on cnn. >> some of the content of the dossier, we were able to collaborate in the intelligence community assessment. >> laura: given brennan's history of lying and obfuscation, any sane person would question his objectivity and credibility. trump is right to be skeptical on brennan and call him out on his misinformation campaign. as "the wall street journal"'s kimberley strassel noted, brennan has been bragging that it was he who started the ball rolling on this entire russian closure narrative. -- collusion narrative. >> i encountered and am aware of information and intelligence that revealed contacts and interactions between russian officials and u.s. persons involved in the trump campaign. that -- i was concerned about. i know that there was a sufficient basis of information and intelligence that required further investigation by the bureau to determine whether or not u.s. persons were

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in february, the chief of the nsa, jeff admiral mike rogers testified he needed the president or secretary of defense to give his authority and said it's not granted. take a listen. >> if granted the authority. i don't have the day-to-day authority to do that. if granted the authority. >> you would need to be directed by the president through the secretary of defense? >> yes, sir. as in fact i mentioned that in my statement. >> have you been directed to do so given the strategic threat that faces the united states and the significant consequences you recognize already? >> no, i have not. >> at the time, sarah sanders said nobody was denying the authority. obviously, admiral rogers has a different take. this is the fear. the president not taking it seriously enough means actually our defenses are not as strong as they need to be. >> right. i think sanders said there's not an election going on right now. there is. yesterday there was one. primary election. the white house claims it is doing things to protect the election security. that said, it has to come from the president's mouth. i mean,

level by the people that steve just mentioned, clapper, brennan, comey, and, probably -- steve: mike rogers confirms it. putin was orchestrating it. if president came out, i know putin did it, i know he was behind it, i am looking to get past it. whether he did it or not i have to deal with him. goes back to the chris wallace interview on with vladmir putin you twice seem to get along. we'll get together to fly across the atlantic, what good it is to yell at each other. it happened in the past. even though he is responsible for it. so this to me, now here we are on thursday, on monday legitimate outrage. i get it. but the fact we're still talking about this on thursday, in respects just shows i think many ways the democrats saying 45% approval rating. the economy is beginning to roar. even the generic poll shows a narrowing gap. no one really thinks the senate is going to flip. this is our opportunity. there is blood in the water, go to the mat with this issue. ainsley: intel community from the former administration, people investigating this current president and collusion and they're send

the ranking member cooper is is actively involved as mike rogers is, as. there's silence on this site for the most part. but they've not shown opposition to the speaker. so the cycle, this is not going to go away. i believe german rogers will be resolved to boarding some kind of legislation. >> let's go to you. please wait for a microphone once i call on you and identify yourself. we will say about two questions around. let's start in the front two rows and a gentleman in the sixth row. >>. >> for rose. i look at the panel here and i see no faces look as old as mine does. but maybe you have some historical information about the development of the air force. >> i was born before world war ii and remember that when we went from a poor, the party airport to the air force, i'm wondering whether you see any, the situation was different then and we have today but was there any consideration then that might be applicable today in making this decision? or transition. >> thank you. thanks all for having this panel today. i wanted to pick up on secretary james point

chairman vice ranking cooper is just as involved as mike rogers is, as is max thornberry. hey're solid on the senate part, but not shown opposition to speak of. so, the cycle is going to -- this is not going to go away. i believe chairman rogers will be resolved to boarding some kind of legislation. >> high money on that. >> absolutely. thank you, let's go to you. please rate for a microphone once i call on you and identify yourself. we'll take about three questions per round. we'll start in the first two rows and then the gentleman in the sixth round. >> i look at the panel here and i see no pafaces that look as hold as mine does. maybe about the air force, i was born before world war ii. when we went from a core, the army air corps to the air force, i'm wondering whether you see any the situation was different than than today. were there any considerations then that might be applicable cod in making this decision or transition. >> thank you, right behind you. thank you for having this panel today. i wanted to pick up on secretary james' point about momentum and the air fo

i think, mike rogers setting up a testimony that the percentage of her cyber security problems wouldocedure that would use to come after what is necessary but it's effective. people respond. we all have done it. it's unfortunate six i would go for magazine prescriptions and they say password is not strong enough. you folks using password as the password. maybe there are certain things that obviously we should be able to print. the russia defense minister is saying the ready to boost cooperation with america but how much credence you give that? >> i'm not at all surprised that's what the russians was a but we put russia in a position where we appear statesmanlike or they can appear to be the player on the scene but when they come to korea there is honestly very little the russians can't afford us. their relations with north korea another song. diplomatically, militarily, and economically. again, russia is not a major economic power in the world so they cannot afford much economic help. on syria, yes, obviously lots of fertile territory for cooperation but that cooperation needs to be

>> well, mike rogers bill in 2017 last year that funded the border wall call for a 2% tax on remittancesrs to mexico and i think to central america. i would make that a 10% tax rate we should have a 10% tax on all individual money transfers from the us to mexico or central america countries. that could yield, charles, about $15 billion over five years which is 60% of the cost of funding the $25 billion border wall. it would also reduce the incentive, quite quickly, for illegal immigration and increase the incentive for buying american goods and services by these workers that are from overseas or for mexico versus wiring all that money home and also gross up what they earn which reduce the gap in wages between these immigrant workers and legal residents of the united states are citizens of the united states. it would lessen that downward vortex on wages that we had at the lower end of the scale. charles: greg, your thoughts? >> we cannot afford a government shutdown politically before the midterm elections. we have to get brett cavanaugh confirmed by the senate and were playing with fire.

the fact that the president conflates his legitimacy of his presidency, i think, mike rogers thinks, with anything related to this topic is causing problems in unleashing the entirety of the u.s. government to help us push back on this problem. that's the part where i get concerned. the other piece, the national security institutions are not, i don't believe, we'll let the president go too far in some of this. i wish he would be better prepared. i don't think he should do a helsinki summit, another summit here. you don't want to roll out the carpet for a guy that's murdering dissidents, murdering reporters, as we speak. occupies 20% of our ally of the country of georgia. annexed crimea. i mean the list is huge and long. you don't give him a reward by parading him with a state dinner in washington, d.c. that sends the wrong message. >> and mike and chris, you've both talked about the community and the systems and how those could be damaged. but ultimately those are made up of people. what is the message that the president is sending to you know, what many americans consider are patrio

rogers. >>> carter and mike got to the platform for another "options action" tag team charter breaks down thes, michael gives the trade. chart master, chick it off there's more pain ahead for mcdonald's back to 1980 to show where mcdonald's comes from. s&p and what we know, of course, is that double performance the s&p, now for fun, add mcdonald's, and nasdaq looks small, one of the greatest growth stocks of all time. the issue is as of late it's starting to stall, at least that's my view first, compared to the lead-in, this is great performance year to date. you see the names. we've been to the restaurants. 30, 40, 50% gains across the board year to date cheesecake factory, deny's, and yet down by itself struggling is the one that is the most important, if you will, in terms of its place in the american land scape so now look at the current one-year chart if reversed mcdonald's is not at the high, but started to stall the s&p and nasdaq leading the great winner long term is now the one losing that's a sign of exhaustion. so put this right here on the chart. trend lines one way. what we know

back over to you >> thank you >> kate rogers >> carter and mike have both made their way to the plaza another options action tag team. >> give us his trade and chart master, why don't you take things off >> you say there's more pain ahead for mickey ds. >> going back to 1980 just to show where mcdonald's has come from and mcdonald's is not on here yet >> s&p and what we know is, of course, is double the performance of the s&p is the nasdaq composite now for fun, let's add mcdonald's, and it makes the nasdaq look like a piker, meaning one the great growth stocks and the issue of late, it's very choppy and starting to stall at least that's my judgment so first, compared to peers and we just heard the lead-in. you've seen the names and you've all been to these restaurants. 30, 40, 50% gains year to date cheesecake factory, denny's and down here all by itself struggling is the one that is the most important, if you will, in terms of its place in the american landscape so now look thea the current one-year chart it's all reversed and mcdonald's did not weigh up at the high and mcdonald's h

surprised he doesn't pick sean hannity or roger ailes, or even mike lee. >> roger ailes is dead.ean hannity on fox news. >> i didn't know he had passed away. excuse me for my ignorance. obama and democrats had to remove that threshold is because congress would not work with these guys. they would not help. them saying orrin hatch will move heaven and earth. he would not help democrats. now that republicans are in charge they called the democrats destruction nests -- destructionists. they started it with their fake news. i am blown web by the hypocrisy in d.c. right now. host: thank you for the call. two nominees are now trump's friend's focus for the top court. that is from nbc news. " none of the four contenders being considered as the president's nominee has been excluded but the greatest focus has fallen onto candidates. brett kavanaugh and thomas hardeman. cavanaugh sitting on the d.c. court of appeals. hardeman is the judge in the third circuit court of appeals. amy coney barrett from the seventh circuit court of appeals and raymond caf au lait -- dge.le you can read that on

despite dan coates, admiral rogers, even mike pompeo, truhi is something that has been acknowledged that russia would try this again. the fact the president either wouldn't know that or wants to call this into question is clear from today. >> i think pompeo, not just his ally, someone he was close with, he's now head of the state department. rogers and coates are his appointees, these are not the career people he likes to rail against like he does the fbi and did doj. >> if you go back to the hearing in the senate intelligence committee, the warning was more pronounced than the hearing. dan coates was warning about the fact that basically trump was not taking this seriously enough. he had not been given authorization -- roger said this as well. they had not been given authorization to go above and beyond normally what they would do to guard against this. this has been a subplot a long time and the president knows it probably. >> there is a law in white houses that are admired in crisis. i know, i was in one meyered in crisis. this white house took a shovel and dug itself 2 feet deeper. w

hearing with more on that coming up but joining us in the conversation, south dakota senator mike brown is here, roger williams joining us as well. herman cain is here, fox news host janine. oh stopping by with a new book. you don't want to miss a moment of it and our top story is trade and getting to work, donald trump set to sign an executive order forming a new council and advisory board focused on boosting job opportunities and vocational training for workers. the president explained the initiative from the white house yesterday. >> so many companies are moving back to the united states like nobody ever thought possible. we need people, trained people, and we are starting a very intensive program of training people so when they come back into the country many of them left years ago they are coming back because of that and it means jobs and that is why the unemployment numbers are so good and you have seen nothing yet. dagen: ibm, lockheed martin, fedex among those signing on to the white house counsel to advise governments on dealing with the threat of automation facing workers. and ibm and fedex

roger ailes. so there is nothing surprising about bill shine being there. >> mike, kerstin makes an important pointallowed to have a life after, you know, paying a price for something they are alleged to have done, or in this case, he denied any wrongdoing and was never accused directly of any harassment himself. is it -- was it a mistake for the president to hire him for this position? >> well, i don't believe so. and, look, this is the white house communications director job. you and i have talked about this. the communications director of the white house is donald trump, and we've had a number of different people that have worked on this. but i will say this. one of the approaches the president has is that he goes towards people from new york, people from the business world, people from show business to come in and help communicate him because he doesn't believe political professionals in washington, d.c. necessarily know how to do it. now part of me is offended by that because i'm a political professional in washington, d.c., but then i look around and see how things are done here, and i go wel

rogers? >> yes, and i think this would be a good topic to get into greater detail this afternoon. >> mike pompeo was the cia director when he said that. he is now the secretary of state. he sat right next to president trump today when the president seemingly claimed russia was not targeting the u.s. nbc white house correspondent kristen welker joins us from the white house. here with me tonight's panel, nick confessore, reporter for "the new york times" and msnbc political analyst. elise jordan, former white house aide to george w. bush and msnbc political analyst. jonathan alter, msnbc political analyst. kristen, another day. more fire for this white house for what the president said. how can sarah sanders say with a straight face that we didn't hear what the president said we heard him say? >> we were frankly astounded, katy, and here are the reasons why. one, as you pointed out, if you look at the tape, the videotape and the audio, what we can see and hear with our own ears and eyes, you see the president respond to my colleague, cecilia vega's question, does he still think russia is a threat

mike emanel in for jon scott. she served time for role in u.s. prostitution ring, it's not clear what mueller wants to ask her, what we do know that davis use today work for rogerne, former trump campaign adviser over alleged contacts with kremlin-hillary clintoned hackers, stoneman maintaining he did not collude with the russians. >> sure, mr. mueller has