mike rutherford. mike rutherford. donna has very passionate . you donna has very passionate.ieves that there can be benefits for asthmatics. i question that . given that the question that. given that the ulez to the north and south circle has made almost no difference to air quality at all, generally the air in london is sight better was is a sight better than it was 5100 years ago. we're very grateful for that. of course, what would your argument against the ulez as the ulez extension be or ulez as a well i you know who a whole? well i you know who doesn't want a clean air? >> we all do this notion that somehow the motorist is happy to live with dirty air is ridiculous. we don't want that ehhen ridiculous. we don't want that either. but why oh why , oh why either. but why oh why, oh why is the exhaust pipe of the car being blamed for everything, is the exhaust pipe of the car being blamed for everything , for being blamed for everything, for all the pollution? i actually you know , i think i'm have sent you know, i think i'm have sent it to you at the time, nigel. i wrote a