mike veach wrote the foreword to "the history of bourbon in kentucky," discussing the impact durbin has had on america. >> early distilleries, ben franklin -- frankfurt caught just like anywhere else, anywhere from 20 gallons to 200 gallons. and they were making whiskey in the fall, winter after the crops ran and the corn had reached a good percentage of dryness so that they could grind it and make whiskey added that. these distillers' made their whiskey for their own consumption, and they also made their whiskey to sell. they would sell it to grocers who would then turn around and sell it to buyers, celebs, whenever. all through the 19th century it was extremely profitable as a business. there was a lot of it being made. there was a lot of it being sold. they were making good money off of it. there were problems to the 19th century. you have to remember, the 19th century, the main package for selling bourbon was not the bottle. bottling of bourbon did not really become something that was standard until the 1890's. the main package was the barrell back to your question about frankfurt,