mike whashg mike, what do you think? >> yeah, i think it is a little bit. i'm not sure, maybe some optimism coming from the fact that there's going to be some car purchases related to what obviously the disaster going on in houston but the fact of the matter is that the secular headwinds for the rental car companies and major auto manufacturers remains intact even know with the stocks having done well this week, multiples tell you this. you wouldn't see them trading at seven, eight, nine times earnings i think they believe we already maybe hit the peak already >> i typically agree with miketer they're smarter than i am. look at ford over the last three and a half, four years series of lower low, lower highs on a broader market tape that's been effectively straight up in an industry where they were selling cars at record paces my question is, if the stock couldn't go up then, could it go up now? if you want to be in the space for a trade, when shunned it yesterday, autonation is the place to be. >> that's definitely going to see a short-term boost for sure. but you know, one quick thing. texas is the leading place for pick up truck sales. it's the most profitable vehicle ford sells let's assume you've got a half a million to a million new cars sold it's going translate to about 35,000, maybe 40,000 f-150s, 350 million to 4$400 million in net profits would be the effect of that, versus 7 billion that's a one-time potential boost. it's not something to trade off of >> there are moves in principle are enduring, it could be the beginning of something longer lasting and moves