cloudy , it was difficult and expensive to wash them, and two people came to my office, mikhail aleksanovich ulyanov and kirilla yulievich lavrov, whom i naturally i knew as a theater critic, the boys, they are 15 years older there, they are like that , they are the same artists, they came in like, mish, well, you can’t fire us, that means they started it, that means this is their wonderful theatrical teasing, and ulyanov there was a turandol for the princess, one of the dzaniyas, such a brighe, he could play both the dzaniya and the marshal... that’s all , so i started to find out with them how in general, what was going on, and when i realized how much they were getting, two great artist, as theater managers, as artists, yes, and we then, the idea was born, then there was a yuri khatovich temerkanov and valeriylovich gergiev were also involved, then ivanovich techin, who worked in the administration, helped. and the idea was simple: it was necessary to make grants for artists. i explained it very simply: in 1943, stalin during the war appointed such extra salaries to five groups, a state orchestra