while she backed mikhail coro child -- macau gorbachev, she was extremely -- mikhail gorbachev, she was extremely skeptical about unification. a lot of germans remember, particularly, thatcher's combative style, which they never warmed to. they did not like the idea of a politician who try to assert her vision and ideology, undermining or revolutionizing the whole economic basis of communities -- that's not the sort of thing german politicians would attempt. they did not like her approach on europe, moving, it seemed, britain away from europe. >> what was the reason for her stance? why was she against german reunification? >> her attitudes toward germany were very much rooted to her experience in growing up during the second world war. her hometown was bombed. she once told the former german president that her view of germany had not changed since 1940, as strange as that may sound. i think she was worried by the prospect of an overly mighty german economy under reunification. she worried that the new germany might outshine britain within europe, so her attitude to germany was sort of d

could drive their speed to be a better iraq and in a statement mikhail gorbachev called margaret thatcher a great politician and an exceptional person who helped end the cold war a former member of the conservative party to load from hesketh who used to work with this is that sure in the late eighty's says some of the signature aspects of a character is sorely missed in the current british leadership. chief whip and i was a minister under five years. she was the most dedicated. intellectual. intolerant. of me as. anyone i've ever worked for. all of which are outstanding qualities she said what she believed and she did she believe here. we have i mean i remember and i wouldn't mention names but i remember one prime minister. who was of various figures came to see if we have. seen we've heard it's fantastic several has it occurred to you that he told you exactly what you wanted to hear which is absolutely useless you have to have someone who says i'm going to do what i'm going to do the death of margaret has prompted david cameron to cut short his european trip the british prime minister wa

let's talk first about mikhail gorbachev. when she first came out and said, i can do business with him. how influential was that? because at the time we had no communication, there hadn't been a summit. and we were just evaluating this new soviet leader. >> i think it was very important. for one thing, it enabled, when she said, this is a man i think we can do business with, it enabled republican president reagan and bush, to, to be able to approach their base with the idea that we should negotiate a peaceful end to the cold war. with the soviet union. because after all, if the iron lady felt this is someone we can do business with, then perhaps it was someone we ought to do business with. it was very, very important. she was of course a strong advocate of free market and of freedom. i heard your, a little bit of your broadcast earlier. she of course broke the oppressive grip of the trade unions in the united kingdom and she pushed privatization. so she had a very, very important role to play economically, but also geopolitic

. >> thatcher convinced reagan that mikhail gorbachev was a soviet leader that could do business with. >> he was willing to admit that some things were wrong in the soviet union, which was very unusual. >> and reagan backed the prime minister in britain's 1982 faulkland's war with argentina. the conflict cost 255 british lives and cemented thatcher's reputation as a resolute leader. >> the prime minister never expects top send people into battle. i was agonized over it. you couldn't leave our people captive. >> thatcher was the only british prime minister to serve three consecutive terms. in 1990 after a leadership struggle within her own party, thatcher was forced to resign. though no longer on the frontlines, thatcher still had political sway as barroness thatcher, sitting in britain's upper chamber, the house of lords. later in life as her health deteriorated public appearances became rare, but thatcher's reputation was already set as a dominant figure of the 20th century whose influences constitutional are being felt today. i'm karen, reporting. >> i'm joined on the phone by pi re

when margaret thatcher met with mikhail gorbachev, she invited him to britain before he took over, and she declared i like mr. gorbachev, we can do business together, talking about the influence on reagan, do you think her relationship then with mr. gorbachev influenced his? >> i would say that comment that she made, we can do business together, influenced a great amount of u.s. policy, because there was a sense that a key ally, european ally, could do business, had met this man, she went first, and established a relationship. she saw in gorbachev something different. she wasn't at all reluctant to say we can do business with this man. and, in fact, they did huge business, of course, reagan ended up saying, mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall, he didn't tear it down, but it came down. >> the passing of another prominent lady, the iron lady, margaret thatcher. thank you, both. >>> the president's push for new gun legislation is taking him back to connecticut today, the scene of the sandy hook killings which prompted national calls for action. two days after those 26 deaths, the president

mikhail gorbachev also had praise. he first met thatcher in 1985. he said their relationship helped improve ties between their nations. >>> officials at the u.s. state department say north korea is hurting its own interests. authorities have pulled workers out of an industrial park located or operated jointly with south korea. north korean officials announced on monday that 53,000 workers will lead the complex. >> closing it would be regrettable given that more than 50,000 korean people are employed there and would not help them achieve their state of desire to improve their committee and better the lives of their people. >> white house press secretary jay carney says officials welcome efforts to persuade leaders to stop their threats. >> we will work with them to get them to abide by obligations. >> a trip that been cancelled to washington. general james thurman was scheduled to testify before congressional committees. he will remain in seoul. >>> new north korean premier has issued a fresh threat against the u.s. and its allies. >> if our supreme

arguments and so on, and then she did this important thing which was to call up ronald reagan to say mikhail gorbachev is a began man we can do business with. gorbachev was atop a collapsing organization which just, i mean, internally the contradiction, the inability to run a country of that size from ministries in moscow was appalling. all of the eastern european cups had worked out that the game was up as far as they were concerned. they were changing their regulations, they were letting people travel freely between countries and all the other things which had been forbidden. i think when thatcher said here's a man i can do business with, what she was not expecting was that ronnie ray began would -- reagan would put into ifect what he had harbored for a long time and recently george shultz, his sec tear of state in the second administration, and that is that, actually, maybe we should abolish all nuclear weapons everywhere? it could be possible. we could negotiate them away. and he went to reykjavik. you may remember story. they met for four days of solid negotiations, they could have signed on the

>> she was the first person to see in mikhail gorbachev the possibility there was a different kind ofiet leader, as he turned out to be. not willing to use force to keep eastern europe under control, not willing to use force to keep the soviet union united. but she never harbored any illusions that we were suddenly going to be in a completely peaceful world. she couldn't have foreseen what we would have been involved in now. but she couldn't have doubted the forces for liberty in the west had to stand together against threats wherever they might come from. >> i'm struck by -- i talked to very successful men who have -- vice president dick cheney, secretary of state henry kissinger, yourself, bud mcfarlane and everybody has an enormous amount of respect for her. but everyone's saying she's tough. no one's complaining about her. >> obviously people have remarked she was the first female prime minister of great britain and the only one so far. we haven't had a female president. to me, the most important thing about her was where she came from. she was the daughter of a grocer, lived over

she was among the first western leaders to recognize mikhail gorbachev as an ally at the kremlin. in 1989, she saw another emerging threat, a changing climate. >> what we are now doing to the world by degrading the land surfaces, by polluting the waters, and by adding greenhouse gases to the air at an unprecedented rate, all of this is new in the experience of the earth. it is mankind and his activities which are changing the environment of our planet and damaging in dangerous ways. >> well ahead of her time with those words with news of her death, paul johnson of the "wall street journal" wrote not since katherine the great has there been a woman of such consequence. eugene robinson called her a towering and polarizing figure. the former prime minister's funeral will be held next week, her spokesman said she specifically did not want a state funeral or flyover, because she thought it was waste of taxpayer money. margaret thatcher was 87 years old. >>> now to business. investors remain hesitant ahead of what is expected to be a modest first quarter earning session. yesterday stock

what did mikhail gorbachev call her? a brilliant person.m netanyahu, strong words from him as well, calling her a friend of the jewish people of the israelis. he said she was a woman of determination, of conviction, of strength. gregg, martha. martha: the funeral plans, gregg, we understand are now in the works. this will be quite a gathering of so many of the world leaders, perhaps some of whom you just mentioned. >> reporter: exactly. we're getting some word in the past hour or so what will be happening. there will be one step down from a full state funeral but it will have all the trappings for something of a very important person. it is being described as a ceremonial funeral with military honors. the queen herself has authorized it. it will be held at st. paul's cathedral in the landmark in london, seen so much in past ceremonies and past events. they say there will in fact be a wide and diverse range of people we could imagine who could be showing up. for her part the queen by the way expressed her sadness. we're hearing from folks ac

communism had earned her the nickname the iron lady relations improved under reformist soviet leader mikhail gorbachev famously saying we can do business together in one thousand nine hundred seven she won a third term to become britain's longest serving prime minister in one hundred years but eventually. after the introduction of the unpopular poll tax which led to nationwide protests. following that she resigned but she did remain active in politics gaining a seat in the upper hanks of parliament policies is still in place today and continue to influence contemporary politicians she will be remembered as one of the most dynamic yet controversial leaders of the twentieth century andrew farmer. riper means to have any fire and water cannon to disrupt a mass protests on sunday present court in istanbul in turkey several hundred people a healthy on trial over an alleged plot to overthrow the government that's all trying to live up to rub his producer lizzy feel and find out the latest what's the problem to solve the protests. today i'm right now i'm currently standing in the prison compound in syllabary

union chernenko died and she came to moscow for his funeral and he was replaced of course by mr mikhail gorbachev and mrs thatcher is famous for having said you couldn't do business with mr gorbachev so when she came for the food or of mr turton and co she had a one on one meeting with mr gore would drop and you know i remember this very vividly when she saw him her face lit up and her eyes sparkled you know i had a feeling and i still have that she was in rapture right mr gorbachev and lady was something that came from the from the russian side as well something that she loved to call it let's just listen in to margaret thatcher a second when she was using that. infamous iconic phrase as it is now the russians said that i was an iron lady. thank you and they were nice. if three kids and i am lady but she took it as praise i'm not sure initially park in nineteen seventy six the term our lady was actually meant as praise was it no of course not that was a huge blond. which played right into the hands of the aryan lady because by using that phrase they actually wanted somehow to be a little but she

earned her the nickname the iron lady although relations improved under reformist soviet leader mikhail gorbachev famously saying we can do business together in one thousand eighty seven she won a third term to become britain's longest serving prime minister in one hundred years but eventually lost her grip on power after the introduction of the unpopular household poll tax which led to nationwide protests after just over a decade ten times finally. forced from office in november. after a challenge to her leadership from within the conservative party following that she resigned but she did remain active in politics gaining a seat in the upper hanks of parliament the policies are still in place today and continue to influence contemporary politicians she will be remembered as one of the most dynamic yet controversial leaders of the twentieth century andrew farmer. u.s. secretary of state john kerry is in israel in a direct a move to add to the four years stalemate between the israelis and the palestinians is now in the region to see if he can reinvigorate the peace process after many failed attemp

union chernenko died and she came to moscow for his funeral and he was replaced of course by mr mikhail gorbachev the author of many reforms in the soviet union the youngest says it leader for years before that about a year and a half or two years before that he came to london not in his capacity as the top media but as someone said and a young and aspiring soviet politician and she met with him as prime minister and she was the first person the first leader in the world to say after her meeting with mr gorbachev who at that point was a second or third ranking person in the party hierarchy and mrs thatcher is famous for having said you can do business with mr gorbachev she was the first leader world leader to have seen the mettle of mr gorbachev and he is a possibility so when she came. to moscow for the food will of mr turton and co she had a one on one. i know i was there during term britt and you know i remember this very vividly as if it had happened just yesterday when she saw him in the office in the kremlin her face lit up and her eyes sparkled you know i had a feeling and i still have tha

union karen enco died and she came to moscow for his funeral and he was replaced of course by mr mikhail gorbachev before that he met with him as prime minister and she was the first leader in the world to say after her meeting with mr gorbachev who at that point was a second or third ranking person in the party hierarchy and mrs thatcher is famous for having said you can do business with mr gorbachev so when she came for the food or of mr turton and co she had a one on one meeting with mr gold with her all and you know i remember this very vividly as if it had happened just yesterday when she saw him in the office in the kremlin her face lit up and our eyes sparkled you know i had a feeling and i still have that she was in rapture right mr gorbachev and lady was something that came from the from the russian side as well something that she loved to coin let's just listen in to margaret thatcher a second when she was using that. infamous iconic phrase as it is now the russians said that i was an iron lady. they were knights. of the of. britain needs an iron lady but she took it as praise i'm not su

throughout their careers, but they both came to realize that they could do business with mikhail fosh gorbachev. in many ways it was the beginning of the end along with gorbachev. gorbachev had enormous influence over it. but dismantling the fall of the soviet empire came toward the end of the reagan/thatcher years and they were very important forces in that. >> david gergen, thanks so much. we appreciate it. >>> talk back question for you today, should americans be allowed to travel freely cuba? you heard about beyonce and jay-z going there on their fifth anniversary. if there was a pill to help protect your eye health as you age... would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. now that's a pill worth taking. [ male announcer ] ocuvite. help protect your eye health. only hertz gives you a carfirmation. he

some of the peers declined to travel because of their age nancy reagan and mikhail gorbachev to name a few but henry kissinger is here as well as james baker and former vice president dick cheney is also here. a congressional delegation from the u.s. will be in attendance. queen elizabeth and prince philip will be here as well as who's who of british politics. thatcher's coffin was moved yesterday at the palace of westminster and it will travel along a two-mile route along parliament ultimately to st. paul's cathedral. the hers will be tran-- hearse transported by a horse drawn carriage. this is a military honor funeral. last received winston churchill. fears of demonstration by those who were opposed to margaret thatcher's policy and also after the jitters following the bombings at the marathon in boston. 4,000 police officers are on duty. the funeral at st. pauls will get underway in about an hour. after that funeral there will be a couple of gatherings for friends and foreign dignitaries to honor the memory of barrmarg thatcher. she will be cremated at a ceremony today. bells will

to the world, first of all, it was her embrace of the then soviet leader and reformist mikhail gorbachev in 1994 that started to put the pressure on soviet to change. she called gorbachev a man with whom we can do business. she worked alongside, hand in hand, with ronald reagan to really keep the pressure up on the soviets and within five years of her making the comment about gorbachev, of course, the berlin wall was coming down. eastern europe was no longer under soviet control. then in terms of projecting britain's own power, she sent british forces to war to regain the falkland islands. british territory off argentina. argentina invaded. that was a turning point in her leadership. she was deeply unpopular up until that point. that changed it completely. these were her thought tons projection of british power she made during her resignation speech in 1990 in parliament. listen. >> there's something else that one feels as well, mr. speaker that is a sense of this country's destiny. the centuries of history and experience be sure when principles have to be defended, when good has to be u

just a cold warrior, because she was the first, as we all know, to recognize the potential in mikhail gorbachev. i talked to jim baker today. he said they had a seamless relationship. only one dispute over grenada. his invasion. >> he never called her. >> he called her the night before. and she said, ronnie, that is not consultation, that is notification. >> he did the same thing to tip o'neill, by the way, that night. anyway. let me go to doug. it seems to any a key to a leader is understanding your culture, your nationalism. her sense of british nationalism was very close to reagan's. it was very nationalistic. her sense of how to connect with her people. we love britain, we want her back. >> well, that's right. i mean, she waved the union just like ronald reagan waved the american flag. at the time she arrived in 1979, there was a fatigue, exhaustion, in the '60s and '70s. britain didn't know what they were doing. dean acheson said at west point in 1962, britain had lost an empire and hadn't found a role for itself. by the time thatcher came in, she was able to get them to be proud of being

yet when thatcher met with incoming soviet leader mikhail gorbachev in late 1984 she famously declared that "we can do business with him." five years later she was in power when the berlin wall came down. in 1990 when iraq invaded kuwait thatcher backed a tough response urging president george h.w. bush not to go wobbly on confronting saddam hussein. but back home, thatcher's own grip on power was wobbling after 11 years in office her public support flagged amid inflation and renewed recession. and the conservative party voted her out. >> after 11-and-a-half wonderful years. >> warner: even after her fall from power thatcher often drew large crowds at campaign events. nearly upstaging her successor john major at a conservative party conference in 1992. that same year she was named a baroness. for many of the '90s she made lucrative lecture tours. margaret thatcher's withdrawal from public eye began in 2002 when a series of small strokes prompted her to cut back on public appearances and speaking events. it was the first of many health problems, including a struggle with dementia that s

she had a meeting with mikhail gorbachev and rang president reagan and said he is a man i can do business with. and during her tenure, the iron curtain came down. the berlin wall came down in '89. so in many senses, her work as a foreign policy activist was great. domestically, it is mixed. she came in at a time when the country was in a terrible state. economically and socially. things were not functioning. there were deceased bodies literally at crematoriums and at cemeteries which had not been buried because the workers had decided to go on strike. many of the industries were on three-day weeks. she came in and was indefatiguable. she was informedable. she did great things in terms of facing down that lackadaisical attitude toward work that had somehow developed in britain. in other ways it was a very, very contentious experience. for example the worst race riots during in britain during her leadership and she was responsible for laws like stop and frisk, which would targeted against urban minorities in a most aggressive way. and those minorities then rose up and there were riots. it i

." >> catherine: thatcher convinced reagan that mikhail gorbachev was a soviet leader they could do business with. later in life.thatcher suffered from dementia and other health problems. and slowly faded from public view. from britain's iron lady - to america's sweetheart. annette funicello was one of the original mousketeers. a hugely popular children's show that began in 1955. >> it is just like we are married. >> exactly. >> she would go on to become what she joked was the 'queen of teen' - appearing in beach party movies with frankie avalon. in 1992 - funicello publicly announced her ongoing battle with multiple sclerosis. and got an outpouring of public support. have a good cryny days when because of the phone calls and mail that i got. stacks of fan mail. >> catherine: she went on to set up a research fund for neurological disorders. but for many americans - remained forever young. whether in mouse ears. or a bathing suit. annette funicello died in a california hospital. margaret thatcher died at her suite in the ritz in london.where she's been living the last few months. >> pam: our

queen elizabeth, mikhail gorbachev among many hailing her achievements.over the regulation of the city of london, made her a divided figure in the reshaping of britain. her funeral is expected to take place next week at st. paul's cathedral. mary jo, she talks about europe, one of her quote, i'm going to slightly paraphrase it slightly was we didn't roll back the frontiers of the state in the uk to have them reimposed at a european level with a european federal state from the center. how right or wrong was she about europe? is there i think the thing she was right about was she believed firmly in order to get europe right, you have to have a true common market first and other things, monetary europe, political union might ultimately flow from that. and i don't believe she felt that common market was achieved. perhaps the euro was a bit premature. get the fundamentals right and then bring in the more challenging issues. europe has challenges that america as a whole doesn't, as britain or any sovereign nation as a whole don't have, different languages, comp

. >> reporter: thatcher convinced reagan that mikhail gorbachev was a soviet leader they could do businesss willing to admit that some things were wrong in the soviet union, which was very unusual. >> reporter: and reagan backed the prime minister in britain's 1982 falkland's war. the conflict caused 255 british lives and cemented thatcher's reputation as a resolute leader. >> a prime minister never expects to send people into battle. i was agonized over it. but you couldn't leave our people captive of a military juncture of the argentine. >> reporter: thatcher was the only british prime minister in the 20th century to serve three consecutive terms. in 1990 after a leadership struggle within her own party, thatcher was forced to resign. though no longer on the front lines, thatcher still had political sway as baroness thatcher sitting in the upper chamber of the house of lords. later in life as her health deteriorated, public appearances became rare. but thatcher's reputation was already set as a dominant figure of the 20th century whose influence is still being felt today. i'm sandra endo

the two first confronted the soviet union, then reached out to mikhail gorbachev and brought the colde her people a strong dose of free market conservatism, and her own indomitable will. and when her own allies and her conservative party faltered calling for a u-turn in policy, she scorned them too. >> you turn if you want to. [ applause ] the lady's not for turning. >> reporter: her popularity soared when she led britain to victory in a war against argentina over the falkland islands. but thatcher's conservative policies were deeply divisive. her own party threw her out of power. against doctor's advice, she attended ronald reagan's funeral in 2004. >> we have lost a great president, a great american, and a great man. and i have lost a dear friend. >> reporter: at the end she was baroness thatcher, granted the title by the queen, but it is as maggie thatcher, as she'll always be remembered, the iron lady. >> they were right! britain needs an iron lady. >> reporter: terry moran, abc news, washington. >> and i love that dry sense of humor. >> yeah. so confident, right? >> absolutely. q

but this youngest new member, mikell joerg mikhail gorbachev the way in which he persuaded ronald reagans a man with whom he could do business. reagan would not have accepted that device from most people. and therefore the result was not only a remarkable set of initiatives, but the end of the cold war and the liberations and eastern europe without a shot being fired. i would like to make another point that it is the spirit one of the big issues that we had today is in the relationship with the united states. british prime ministers have to agree with the president. the more i can tell you is that it is no doubt the answer. on several occasions she has deep disagreements with ronald reagan, one of her closest friends. on the question of the soviet oil pipeline, british companies have helped contract to build it. and the americans had sanctions against british companies. i was sent off to washington as a junior minister with the american deputy secretary of state. we reached a compromise, it would be known as the dim agreement. [laughter] and she openly disagreed with the regular summit w

pressuring mikhail gorbachev to dismantle the soviet system and pursue perestroika. fellow conservative party members who forced her out of office. unhappy with a number of her policies. she lost power, but not influence. after a series of small strokes in 2004, she honored a promise to ronald reagan and delivered a eulogy on tape at his funeral. >> we have lost a great president, a great american, and a great man, and i have lost a dear friend. >> i ask the honorable gentleman -- >> reporter: the 2011 movie "the iron lady" showed thatcher's decline into dementia. the highly respected grand damme of politics passing with time. thatcher leaves an undelible mark on the world's political landscape. martin fletcher, nbc news, london. >> you know, the whole generation of people right now who really aren't all that familiar with her and her leadership back in the late 1970s and up until 1990. i'm hoping those people now are taking this opportunity to go back and learn a little bit more about her. >> i bet they will. when you google her, one of the first quotes that comes o