with between baker and mikhail gorbachev. about lacing a united germany in nato and in that meeting baker says if they are united and placed in nato nato will not move one inch further east. and i've seen that record both the translation of the russian record from charanaya. and the american record from dennis ross. it was both agree. that the statement won each further east. was said and what baker meant was that i'm focused on eastern, germany. and it is east germany that i'm talking about.

with between baker and mikhail gorbachev. about lacing a united germany in nato and in that meeting baker says if they are united and placed in nato nato will not move one inch further east. and i've seen that record both the translation of the russian record from charanaya. and the american record from dennis ross. it was both agree. that the statement won each further east. was said and what baker meant was that i'm focused on eastern, germany. and it is east germany that i'm talking about. and he was not conscious at that time. of whether hungry and poland and check and slovakia would follow he was determined that germany should be united in nato, but it is. force to think that he already anticipated the other countries of eastern europe. now as we all know now. in 2004 and subsequently the other eastern countries eastern european countries joined nato. and that has provoked the russians by now to claim that baker broke his word. and they have used this one inch further east in their propaganda to say you can't can't trust

with the soviet union's parallels because they really are parallels, you know, as early as 983 mikhail gorbachev is saying in the, among the, in the polar bureau that we have to get out of afghanistan. and, you know, he doesn't, he's not able then to get the soviet union gas in 989. but you're absolutely right . exxon. this is nothing but a strategic defeat for the united states. you can look at this in a whole bunch of different ways, but it has been an incredibly counterproductive venture when the united states went into afghanistan in 2000. and one or car had about 400 people worldwide. you know, and since then they've grown to have ranches and affiliates, right. all throughout the world and dozens of countries, tens of 1000 members, they've taken over entire cities and regions, you know, same thing to the united states. government said in 2001 they were for international terror groups in afghanistan and pakistan. and now the united states government says there's about 20 international terror groups, napkins pakistan. so not only has it been as chief defeat, it's been incredibly counterproduc

nancy reagan actually encouraged her husband to have direct conversation with mikhail gorbachev gorbachev seems like an important factor in this it couldn't possibly never have different word different russian leader it's right and in the first couple of years of the reagan administration. one thing that's important. it's a very it seems like a historic footnote, but it's it's really important right after reagan barely survives and assassins. bullet and he he realizes he in his religious belief that that god has spared him for a purpose. he sits down. he writes by hand on a legal pet a very kind of idealistic letter to the then leader of the soviet union landed brushnev saying you and i are the only two people who can bring about. peace. he shows the letter to some of his top advisors and they're kind of horrified that you know that a president would be served. so open and in fact. alexander hague, then the secretary of state says, you know if we're going to be writing letters to the kremlin, you know the pros over the state department should do it so they come back with a draft that's ve

it's the same place that you as president ronald reagan met with russian liter mikhail gorbachev back in 1985 and according to the white house press secretary, despite some criticism here in the united states that this is perhaps a reward this meeting by us president biden for some of the alleged bad behavior on the part of russia, she denies that criticism. in fact, she says, just the opposite. she says that what joe biden's goal will be is to work towards a predictable and stable relationship between the united states and russia. and that when the 2 leaders meet, that they will discuss a full range of thorny issues and differences. the leaders will discuss the full range of pressing issues as we seek to restore predictability and stability to the u. s. russia relationship and to more specific to your question, we expect they will spend a fair amount of time on strategic stability where the arms control agenda goes, following the extension of new start. obviously, we're both members of the p 5 plus one, as well as those negotiations aren't going. present will also raise ukraine, unde

the role of george schultz and could you touch a little bit on how both men, ronald reagan and mikhail gorbachev were the right man for the moment and how nancy reagan worked behind the scenes to pave the way for peace? >> i don't think that it was any strategic sense on her part that she felt this. there were a number of things. she also made a political sense that even people that liked ronald reagan were afraid that perhaps he was a little too close on the trigger which she also understood as something is somethingthat many people dit ronald reagan which sent along with his harsh cold war anti-communist rhetoric that there was a real idealism that he was a believer in the biblical prophecy and he was enough of an idealist to envision a world without nuclear weapons. that is something she understood about him that not a lot of people did at that time. and again, this is truly a marriage. the two of them would have the arguments where they would want to tone down his rhetoric and especially disturbed when he referred to the century union as an evil empire. i have a pretty hilarious scene of the

because this is the same site that in 1985 us president ronald reagan, met with russian liter mikhail gorbachev at the time. so it certainly has significance and history behind it. but there are a lot of thorny issues that these 2 are going to have to work out. not only is the us present expected to raise concerns about russian aggression along ukraine border, but also the jailing of election of volley. and also the fact that there have been hacked notice solar winds of u. s. government agencies, as well as defense contractors. and most recently the attack on the colonial pipeline here in the united states. and well, the united states says this was not state sponsored. they do say that these were russian hackers that were responsible for the disruption in the flow of gas for ordinary americans for at least a week. so there are a large number of issues to be addressed, including the concern of the nuclear escalation. so all of this is going to have to be worked out, suspect it may take more than one meeting. all right, thanks so much. kimberly how kit there. hi, iran is a noun 7 candidates who a

ultimately meet is where 1985 ronald reagan, us president at the time met with russian leader mikhail gorbachev, so a lot of anticipation for this meeting when the white house press secretary says will be about building bridges and repairing or at least working towards a workable relationship that will benefit american interests. like kimberly, how can they're signing more still ahead on the news out, including no sign of away out of a deepening economic crisis in lebanon. now, major international brands having to shut down operations, hundreds of thousands full to leave that home 2nd week. it's india and sport, the milwaukee buck take control of the playoff series story. ah, the french president and emmanuel, my call is calling for an urgent un security council meeting on molly. it comes the day after molly's prime minister and president were removed from office in a military coup. the inter and vice president colonel seemed going to lead a qu last year. now he says, the president and prime minister being held in a military facility near the capital banneker micron says the use prepared to tak