he had the best possible tour guide -- mikhail gorbachev. : so friendly was it all that at one point, president reagan threw his arm around gorbachev and, at another point, completely took back his "evil empire" pronouncement. reporter: do you still think you're in an evil empire, mr. president? no. why not? i was talking about another time and another era. the warmonger reagan is essentially saying the cold war looks as if it's coming to an end. president reagan: freedom is the recognition that no single person, no single authority or government has a monopoly on the truth. it is the right to put forth an idea scoffed at by the experts and watch it catch fire among the people. petersen: in gorbachev's soviet union, food has become even harder to get. once, there was a selection -- maybe two or three cheeses. now there is only one. there is a dangerous undertone to the complaints. "we ate better," they say, "in the days of brezhnev." there was stress in the soviet system because they were trying to change it in a system that was unchangeable

revolution parade. and their pride in their socialist accomplishments. and a new man appeared — mikhail gorbachevically, got the changes the wrong way round. freedom of speech and of the press first, took time to get going. they chant in russian about the shortages of food, the rotten services and the awful infrastructure. and by the time the kgb — the soviet secret police — and took power for three chaotic days, not many people were prepared to stand up for their new freedoms. shouting, horn beeps i watched as the coup collapsed and gorbachev returned, but he was essentially finished. and another former soviet apparatchik, boris yeltsin — pushed him aside four months later. 14 different countries, including latvia, where i am now, and, of course, ukraine, broke away from russia leningrad's new mayor announced that the city's old name of saint petersburg i went round to meet him, but alas, a certain vladimir putin. i witnessed the russian economies the economic horrors of the 19905 explain a great deal putin himself, no longer deputy mayor of saint petersburg but pushed by his kgb connections int

criticize trump for even giving any praise to a dictator but keep in mind reagan also befriended mikhail gorbachev when he brought down the wall and brought an end to the ussr. and there's a pattern with ronald reagan and trump and he knows where he's trying to go and negotiate an end to the bloodshed. with the end of the agreement is between me and donald trump and zelenskyy and prudent. >> we appreciate your times for staying up late. and the former white house chief of staff mike meadows is now coming on with us as well as kellyanne conway and intelligence officer rebecca com for who knows russian pretty well we start with the rebecca. what does a vladimir putin think? >> vladimir putin would like to ended the war but on his terms which are unacceptable to washington and president trump's team. and he maintained a wartime footing several years prior to the beginning of this war which is why he feels he can keep going unless he meets that requirement. if they did that they would look like idiots. investing $200 billion for three years and 1,000,000 russians are dead and what do they have in retu

to sit down and have these negotiations, just like ronald reagan sat down multiple times with mikhail gorbachev, you know, four times in three years they had a summit. it was just between the two of them. you didn't have all of nato leaders there. they exchanged 40 different letters. reagan even said he developed a bond and friendship with gorbachev. so i think it's inevitable that you have to take these steps to establish diplomatic channels and actually get to a lasting truce that protects ukraine's future. and as j.d. vance said last week, in europe, it's sovereign independence. >> you know that even your fellow republicans senator wicker, the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee, criticized the secretary of defense last week for basically giving up a number of concessions, including territorial concessions in ukraine, nato membership in, i'm sorry, ukraine membership in nato in 2022. you mentioned you made a direct tie between american concessions to russia and what you feared would be the wrong message china would take when it came to taiwan. take a listen. >> it's not just v