i am pleased to have mikhail khodorkovsky at this table pore the first time. welcome. >> hello. >> charlie: i looked forward to this conversation as you know since you and i met maybe six or seven months ago. tell me where you are today in your life as you see it. >> i have tried in the past few months to deal with some of the main tasks that i had to deal with in my family. unfortunately, part of these decisions were not in human hands but i still had the opportunity to say farewell to my mother and that, of course, was a big humanitarian gesture on the part of the russian authority. that's not usually in its traditions. now i consider that i'm ready to start the next stage of my life. >> charlie: which will be? i have finished with business. i consider that i've achieved what i wanted to achieve in it, the plans that i had and now i can move on to civic activity. i consider it seffic activity -- civic activity as i have before although many in russia call it political activity. i don't object to that. okay fine, if you think i'm dealing in politics, you may

ryan chilcote caught up with mikhail khodorkovsky.a's richest while spending a decade in prison. two -- a forecasting a coup. >> i believe that the problem with prudent will come -- with putin will come from within his own entourage. it could be one person, 10 people, i do not know. i cannot forecast that and i do not want to guess. i can say that it would be better for my country if the issue is resolved that way. an through the framework of clashes in the streets. coup has a lote less blood. >> how likely is a coup? >> right now, president putin has nothing but unwavering support from his inner circle. it does not look like there could be anything like that. and what -- and why would there be anything but unwavering support? you look at his personal weightings -- ratings, which have skyrocketed on the back of ukraine. russia really likes what the president has done up until now in ukraine. having said that, mikhail khodorkovsky says that the euphoria will pass. the problems will remain. he also reminds that, in 1917, who would have

mikhail khodorkovsky was once russia's biggest -- russia's richest man.erving a 10-year sentence and is now in exile, perhaps russia's most famous dissident. ryan chilcote caught up with him in zÜrich, asking him about the chances of change back at home. putinhink the chances of truly losing power are about 50/50 in the next 10 years. when i cannot say. >> a lot of people in the west say the collapse of the oil will create problems for him and speed his departure, do you agree with that? the decline in oil prices and western sanctions, individual sanctions against the putin entourage means that he has far less room to room -- maneuver financially which creates difficulties for him. as a result, the cost of any mistakes he may make could be critical. at the same time, i would not count on the regime being toppled only as the result of mistakes in the economy. you need something more. >> what? you need a black swan event. >> ryan chilcote is with us from london. the thing that surprises us most is to hear him say there is only a 50/50 chance that putin will

. >> coming up, bloomberg exclusive with mikhail khodorkovsky. we speak about why he things it will take a black swan event to unseat president putin. >> and a reminder, you can follow both of us on twitter. we are back in just a couple of minutes. ♪ >> it is 22 minutes past the hour. you are watching "the pulse." we are live on bloomberg tv. a quick check on the price of oil. the two main contracts and what is happening here, both up. nymex is up by 1.4%. brent is up by over 2% this morning. $60opec monitors went below earlier on, which is fairly significant. let me take you to what is happening in sydney now. we have been monitoring events very closely. we have a news conference taking place as we speak. let's listen in to what is being said. >> ultimately, we are doing all we can in these difficult circumstances and we will get through it. the commissioner will make a few comments. >> thank you, premier. good evening, ladies and gentlemen. , our only goal tonight and for as long as this takes, is to get those people that are currently caught i

tonight an encore presentation of my conversation with mikhail khodorkovsky. >> but i had to deal withn jail through resistance, and in prison there's only one game that you can play and that's your life. you can only stake your life. you can do a hunger strike that means you either need to put your life on the line, or they don't take you seriously. if you have put your life on the line and then you haven't held out till the end that's it. you are a nobody. i had to do this four times. i very carefully picked my