mikhail khodorkovsky, welcome to hardtalk. speaks russian.rs say that vladimir putin invasion of ukraine must fail. do you think they understand what it will take to ensure that putin's war ends in defeat? in a sense, this war is about will — it's about the will and determination of putin, about the will of ukrainians, led by zelensky, and also about the will of the west to confront putin. whose will, right now, do you think is the strongest? you know putin well — i'd be interested in your answer. really? because there is a school of thought in the west that putin cannot afford a humiliation in ukraine. and if he is facing humiliation, he will use all of the weaponry at his disposal, including weapons of mass destruction — including, some believe, nuclear weapons. are you saying that fear is misplaced? you visited washington, dcjust a few days ago. you spoke to us officials, you've seen their latest assistance package for ukraine — $800 million of new weaponry, perhaps some heavier weaponry than we've seen before, but still nothing like the l

i'm joined now by mikhail khodorkovsky who was once russia's richest man. ame a prominent critic of the kremlin before he was imprisoned for fraud and tax evasion, charges he says were politically motivated. he was released in 2013 and has been living outside russia since then. welcome, mikhail khodorkovsky. but before we begin i want people to understand why i think you have real insight into how the kremlin works. in 2003 you were the richest man in russia, brilliant businessman, you had run a whole bunch of businesses, and then you start criticizing the regime and you say you may run against putin for president. within six months your company has been taken away from you, the largest company in russia, you are in prison and you spent ten years in prison. and the company is taken away through a complicated series of maneuvers where they claim tax fraud and stuff. so you know how putin operates and who has power in that system. is it possible that the oligarchs have enough power that they can pressure putin to change course to withdraw from ukraine? >> tran

putin can make them do practically anything, says mikhail khodorkovsky, once the richest billionaire now just a millionaire in exile in london. khodorkovsky told us many of the oligarchs thrive and survive at the indulgence of the kremlin. "there's no doubt about it," he told us, "putin will give the order to recruit mercenaries, transfer money, or spread fake news on social media." he told us putin uses oligarch money to help fund the war in ukraine. and the oligarchs, putin's foot soldiers he calls them, simply comply. "i think because they feel a noose around their neck tied by putin," he told us. "i can only explain it this way." in 2003 khodorkovsky, an oil titan, dared to publicly criticize putin. d. was arrested and charged with the lion of industry was tried and convicted in a courtroom cage and spent ten years in prison. is that why more people don't speak out against putin? "yes," he told us, "putin wanted to send a message that no one was allowed to criticize him. if you don't do what the kremlin wants, you can easily be imprisoned." khodorkovsky told us the oligarchs' lin

to which mikhail khodorkovsky called on our citizens, remember, we call on citizens to general sabotagetive ways of putting pressure on the authorities that do not require personal heroism sabotage any work of military registration and enlistment offices can the cases of conscripts disappear in police departments can forget to draw up protocols on detained citizens. they can massively stop paying utility bills or delay payment even for transport to allah in large cities. failure of the traffic light system for drivers not to go to work. it will become a very noticeable event for people and will create a feeling of mass rejection of war. to lead a more radical point of view, listen to the leadership of the russian customs. i have a question for you there, customs officers, who are the azov vysushniks, so take their asses of those that stick out there and send them to mariupol and it’s not a sin here. recall the phrase of napoleon bonaparte who said the people who do not want to feed their army will feed someone else's attention all the time.

to which mikhail khodorkovsky called on our citizens, remember, we call on citizens to general sabotageere are effective ways to put pressure on the government that do not require personal heroism; you can sabotage any work military registration and enlistment offices the cases of conscripts may disappear in police stations, citizens may forget to draw up protocols for detained citizens. they can massively stop paying utility bills or delay payment, even a transport collapse in large cities. failure of the traffic light system for drivers not to go to work. it will become a very noticeable event for people and will create a feeling of mass rejection of war. lead a more radical point of view listen to the leadership of the russian customs i have a question you have customs officers there, who are the azov vysushniki now take their assholes of those who stick out there and send them to mariupol to remember the phrase of napoleon bonaparte who said the people who do not want to feed their own army will feed someone else's. all the last time, uh, the attention of citizens has been focused o

but remember mikhail khodorkovsky, we call on citizens to general sabotage; there are effective ways to put pressure on the authorities that do not require personal heroism; you can sabotage any work in the military registration and enlistment offices . they can massively stop paying utility bills or delay payment even for transport to allah in large cities. failure of the traffic light system for drivers not to go to work. will be a very visible event for the people and will create a sense of mass rejection of the war to lead a more radical point of view. listen to the leadership of the russian customs . i have a question for you there, the customs officers, who are the azov dryers, so take their asses of those who stick out there and send them to mariupol to remember the phrase of napoleon bonaparte who said the people who do not want to feed their own army will feed someone else's. all the last time. uh attention citizens focused on what is happening in mariupol as you know, mariupol is cleared and only at a huge huge plant, azovstan. there remains a fairly large group of militant

to whom mikhail khodorkovsky called on our citizens, remember, we call on citizens to universal sabotageways of putting pressure on the authorities that do not require personal heroism. you can sabotage any work at military registration and enlistment offices. the cases of conscripts in police stations may disappear. citizens may forget to draw up protocols for detained citizens. they can massively stop paying utility bills or delay payment, even a transport tick in large cities. failure of drivers to go to work traffic light system failure. it will become a very noticeable event for people and will create a feeling of mass rejection.

to which mikhail khodorkovsky called on our citizens, remember, we call on citizens to general sabotagee ways to put pressure on the authorities that do not require personal heroism. you can sabotage any work at the military registration and enlistment offices. the cases of conscripts in police stations may disappear . they can massively stop paying utility bills or delay payment, even a transport collapse in large cities. failure of drivers to go to work traffic light system failure. it will become a very noticeable event for people and will create a feeling of mass rejection of war. lead a more radical point of view, listen to the leadership of the russian customs. i have a question. you have customs officers there, who are the azov people ? take their asses of those who stick out there and

mikhail khodorkovsky by yusus. leonid of the germans. to everyone ksenia sobchak also decided to support comedians , she wrote that she was under attack because of her posts, in social networks she wished maxim patience , what the former showman has a great political future. what galkin well done i have been telling everyone for a long time that we will someday see him on the lists of candidates for the presidential elections in russia with great chances of winning marion you are on the lists no well, i think that you are the first on the list in which i am not, because they want to execute me tolstoy, then from this side they want to see in such cases. you are a very decent person, because they wet it from all sides, so i subordinate primus, and in general, as if in no way an enemy to anyone, but it seems to me that you are dramatizing, as it were, the history of this list and even promoting it, as it were. no, i'm not talking about this list. and about the one that, well, well, you won’t argue with me what it is. uh, how to call the ir

and you can watch that full interview with mikhail khodorkovsky on the bbc iplayer.fairly straightforward plan. as part of thejubilee year, various members of the royalfamily were to be dispatched to the various realms around the world. realms, of course, being independent countries, but which have the queen as their head of state. so princess anne went to australia and papua new guinea. prince charles will go to canada next month. of course we know about catherine and william who went to the caribbean last month. so this latest one was due to start today. the earl and countess of wessex flying into saint lucia in the caribbean. they were going to do some island hopping during the week. but as you say, buckingham palace has issued their statement, say that actually grenada, which was originally on the plan, is now not. as you say, there's no reason given, but it's saying in consultation with the government of grenada and on the advice of the governor—general, so that's the queen's representative in grenada that this decision has been taken. now we do know that local