mikhail kalinin is a co-owner of the very social funeral service that everyone in tomsk knows, as sps is here today on this program. let's listen to what mikhail vladimirovich will tell us . hello. that is, you are not the only one who manages the atp correctly. yes, a joint venture park. tell me how it turns out that you have, uh, 479 orders, and everyone else has 50. uh, 30. hmm, fewer orders, not because we are buying something. our price is much lower than many in the city, the consumer is the customer. he's somehow getting out of you, he's reaching out to media ads, uh, old clients. i have been in this area of ritual activities for 30 years. final as a mortuary orderly, and this is the term i have repeatedly submitted documents to become the director of a special service plant, since i know this market very well from the inside, they never let me through. excuse me. well, do you think that alena, who is investigating today here is a studio, she's less of a specialist than you, i won't talk about the possibilities. and what a specialist she is, i can say about the auction that just sounded. here, the auction is created for the transportation of unclaimed bodies, or without relatives in the absence of them at the time of their discovery. each time in our city an auction was won by a group of the cia company headed by kazakov nikolai nikolaevich , money is allocated for the auction. well, i won’t say for sure, well, on average, 2,000 per deceased, he starts trading, we are our employees - one of my partners, took part in this auction. well, this auction went minus 800,000 because of him. it is he who has to pay 800.000 to transport the rootless, but we already discussed this here before you left, what is clear that he receives just data, yes, the contract for the transport of the rootless corrects with small adjustments. there, immediately removing the rootless, which is just the transportation of bodies, the police officer is not particularly. i think will delve into this topic. well, he sees yes, he gave the phone. well, let alena call everything. well the same thing, i have information from people that the same thing comes to us. they say we are transporting, we have a contract, who will clarify. well, there is a contract and there is a contract. okay, let him carry. and if you say, that is, you think that alyona is just trying to share the market here too. uh, well, are you ready to tell compromising evidence on nikolai kazakov who installed, what monuments to veterans? tell me yes, there was a case there was information there is an article about the involvement of kazakov nikolai nikolaevich for being a veteran great patriotic war. he erected monuments, which are supposed to be allocated money from the ministry of defense for these monuments should be crumbled marble. well, something from this he installed men from cardboard, which later after the rain. naturally, they cracked up. let's see , after all, the log that alexander kozyavin saw, when he asked to open the car and how we understand the corpses there. but nobody wants. do this attention. this is how we see now just the car drives into the gate, we drive up to it. hello. tell me please, what exactly is going on here? but, what is happening here now, and what is in the car at your house? can you show? on what grounds should he, but many residents say that the bodies of the dead are brought here and here we have bases here, a garage, so i ’ll come right now, i’ll go and lie down to have a rest to eat. and yes, you can show what you have in the car, tell me. and you tell me please, you now bring your body of the deceased here is a working machine. we've arrived, come here. documents here. ah, vignettes. now we'll screw everything up and leave, you can go and see. well, as we see here a large number of cities. you have nothing more. but you can open the car, we have no right to open it. as we say to start everything will be a heating installation, working coal. you see, you keep showing the car doors you cannot open. really. are you really allowed to let journalists in here, even, let's say, well, i don’t have the right to come here either. you can look here. no, i understand, but you see, you are free to let, well, into your territory. let me tell you. so. look we were transporting, dude. yes, we were in some liposadres there, or from the second medical unit, somewhere a torn package. now it is necessary to wash it turns out that what to wash? do something? and what, well, a little blood came out of the bag. are we going to open any blood stains there? what if there will only be fifth blood. i won't even show it. open how it is not so should clean the salon inside, wash it and let me go to another address, i have a clean car and do not open it only purely for aesthetic reasons. it is clear that the door to us opens, because, most likely, perhaps, there is the body of the deceased. and look at the blood stains are different, the biological substances are 100% different, and this car drives around the city in absolutely some kind of garage, where sanitary eppendi melodic legislation. it is very unpleasant for me to see the city of tomsk from this perspective. but the problem is in the ritual service. they exist and not only in our city throughout russia , because the law on funeral services and the funeral business, in general, has not been considered since 1996 , this is a problem that has long been overdue. this business that the people sitting here are trying to share. and what it should be, but it should be not. you know, i disagree with you, my task. here it is not to divide the business, my task, but to stop the distribution of personal data of relatives, because relatives and i think, and what would you like it if your personal data, when you lost a relative or loved one, and we will lose we will all go through this and business, and each of you is losing his individual person. it should be by conscience conscience here, of course, does not fit. yes, let's, what do you say about viktor praskovsky, he heads the tomsk municipal funeral service. this is one of those candidates, in general for the tomsk municipal service, a special service plant. i can say one of the sixteenth year ta-razovsky is already the fourth director. this is a person who does not understand the meaning of ritual activity from the word at all. but when he came there, and he came there, he was a protege from the director of the moscow state university. e services of city cemeteries. he is placed there specially, as we know in the twenty-fifth year. mm, magnifiers should be eliminated. they realized the idea on the basis of this plant to create their own charter, their ritual group and monopolize the market. vrozovsky. gets in touch with us. you heard? uh, what's your name? just described, what do you say? yes, i can't. i do not even want to comment on the words of mikhail completely salty, which says that the tomsk and the unified funeral service. or whatever her name is csps, they are already so everyone. they took over this funeral business, that there is nothing to even talk about with them. do you also think that the prices are so different, and they are so comfortable that everyone runs to them, therefore, they have 500 people, unlike all the others, where you can see our prices, regulated by the resolution of the tomsk city administration, and i am not at least lower than the percentage of 25-30% than the social funeral service and other private funeral companies, that is understandable. that some kind of leak, and they're in cahoots with someone on business. yes of course, we go to every address. they call us, only relatives come. they are already there at the address. over the past 3 months, we have not had so many addresses, there are practically no addresses, as mikhail vladimirovich correctly says, we already go on a whim to the special serv