mikhail ulyanov permanent representatives of the russian federation to international organizations in vienna a mikhail good afternoon. well, how would you comment on the decision as rich as is it objective? to start, let miracles. hello andrei vladimirovich, she was accepted. yesterday in the majority vote. uh, including the provision that there were checks along the gt lines which did not reveal any abnormalities from the government actually took place on october 31st dash on november 2nd. uh, two magat inspectors visited one after another three objects of the kiev institute of research, then the mining and processing plant in yellow waters, this is in the dnepropetrovsk region and finally kb yushmash visited by invitation on the ukrainian side, each inspection lasted, as i understand it, about 8 hours, that is, a preliminary inspection was carried out, of course, the dirty bomb did not wait for the inspectors in a prominent place. but dirty, but western colleagues have already decided to declare final and serve as if they apply to all territories of the country. this is not true. in fact, only an initial inspection took place at the same time environmental samples were taken. as is usually done in stratified laboratories, and then how the final verdict would be issued, but only in relation to the three objects on which professional organizations, but as they said 100% guarantee. uh, keep an eye on everything. uh, in general, it is impossible, and besides, you need to keep in mind that, say, the magats are only responsible for nuclear material. this is plutonium. to that there are radioactive materials, such as strontium cobalt, which the rich do not deal with. a well, so the issue is not closed, but the most important thing, it seems to me, was a rather strong preventive signal sent by us. e. hope that it will be useful. and what is this signal? please remind me that you mean that according to our data in kiev they are seriously discussing the possibilities. they are even taking practical steps towards the creation of dirty gods. well, we brought this issue to the public plane, thus. i think if there were such intentions of the ural side, then it becomes more difficult to implement them, of course. such serious questions. it's just that they are not born out of the blue. of course, we will not reveal all our secrets. where did we get such information and so on? ah, but nevertheless to say that the problem is removed from the agenda. and how they are trying to present it now in the west, as you noticed, but it seems to me, very early, right? our actions in this direction, what will we do while we take a break, let's see how events will develop, or some other way out. let's take a break, in any case, it is not known that we are going to take any additional steps , i repeat bringing the signal, and this in itself is good. we have a meeting yesterday board of governors. and when this issue was also discussed, i urged the agencies that are involved, among other things, to remain vigilant and, as it were, pay increased attention to this topic. well, in magats, uh, he somehow listens to your words. maybe they, too, all internally believe that it is? well, we still came up with it there, but we just drive them in vain on a business trip to ukraine where they shoot and it’s better not to go there. well, to be honest, i don't know what i think, employees have secrets, can only guess. well, this is their work by and large. uh, so they responded to the development of events and the invitation of the ukrainian side, by the way, also a rejection, because the agreement between ukraine is a rich agency. uh, should take such steps, listen to the crimes of the corresponding requests. mikhalych well, this trend towards the politicization of international institutions, i think it is so obvious for even such, maybe, uh, not a very special view of people who look at it all from the outside. well, that is, not specialists in big politics, but in diplomacy and so further. and this is the politicization of international institutions. and in this case, in particular, with regard to the rich. and do you enter uh, such politicization in the activities of the rich and uh, the next question. this is the adoption of the anti-iranian e, the resolution sum gote. this is generally how everything can be interpreted? well, of course it does. she 's literally over the top. still, bogatyr is an organization with a technical mandate. ah, let's say a review of the site, the managers pass a resolution that, let's say, states that the majority of the board members do not recognize the results referendums in four areas of russian resolutions that call on russia to relinquish its claim to ownership of the zaporozhye nuclear power plant. uh, calling for the withdrawal of military personnel from the territory of the stations is all, these are not the issues that the hero and his council, managers, as one of the two decision-making bodies of the probability process are dealing with today. i do not see, apparently this will continue. so far so all the same in iran. do you think they also go into politics, there are rich, like before we had such a more or less balanced position, when there was, uh, there was the whole process for uh, this svpd and so on, it seems, as we are ready. there tried objectively or not. e at that moment behave to do. i must clarify one point, because we sometimes confuse this. let's say yesterday's resolution on ukraine, they were adopted by the union, they manage this part of the rich, the other part, bogatyr is a secret. numerous, but international civil service, which runs quite certain technical difficulties. we sometimes i remember in september that the general director of gosse was accused of having a previous resolution on ukraine, e.g., the anti-russian adopted by the director has nothing to do with this directly in the case of the ukrainian resolution. yesterday it was with the authors of canada and so on, well, all claims are in the first place and a supporter, as far as iran is concerned. and politicization, yes, there is, uh, a resolution that the usa and the euro troika, germany, great britain and france managed to push through, it was extremely untimely just before the end of the month, another round of consultations between specialists of the hero and the iranian side in tehran. the 30 by 10 plans were supposed to remain in place. why was it necessary to push the iranians? right now, it is not clear why it was necessary to drive e to create problems for the vienna negotiations on the restoration of the nuclear deal. it's also unclear. although it doesn't seem like it today. e reason. uh cleared up the pentagon said that in the current environment. reaching an agreement to restore a joint global plan of action or a nuclear deal is currently out of the question in the near future, but it explains why did the western negotiators risk jeopardizing the negotiation process and the interaction between the secretariat of the rich and iran is also part of the line of napoletization, just to say that here is the direct evidence that you conducted that the hero is engaged. well, in any case, on the advice of governors, but is clearly engaged in political activities, indeed in direct more, but the attitude to referendums. e hmm former ukraine i'll probably call it that yes, because. uh, what bogatyr is related to a referendum, in general, a purely political process. we do not relate, but i also wanted to address this issue. ask one question, but we just don't have time. we are already running out of airtime, and the middle east is a very serious topic, maybe if kalash you find time sometime next time we will talk. i don't think this topic will go away. um, why is this conference in new york a safe zone in this region? here, too, there are some tectonic shifts that i would certainly like to discuss, uh, and uh, nevertheless. here's the concluding our conversation. i understand that there will be problems with nuclear safety in the world in the near future. or so it seems, and in practical terms , there are some negative trends. in principle, it was, perhaps, always the problem was nuclear non-proliferation. but now here i am observing the degradation of international relations and, first of all, many parties. what i do here in vienna, the professional level, has dropped sharply and sometimes things happen that it was impossible to imagine well, even in the era cold war. somehow everything was more civilized. now this is almost non-existent. yes, you know, this is of course depressing, because this degradation may not bring you to reach, unfortunately, and thank you very much, mikhailt me remind you. we spoke with mikhail ulyanov, permanent representative of the russian e federation. continue close coordination in the energy sector, including to ensure balance and stability in the global gas market, this was discussed in a telephone conversation between vladimir putin and emir of qatar tomimo ben ahamad altani, they also discussed joint projects, investment and infrastructure areas. in addition, vladimir putin congratulated the emiracator on the start of the world cup in his country on november 20 and wished the qatari national team a successful performance . meanwhile, the western press, without waiting for the start of the tournament, is already replicating scandals in full, and political the nature of allegations of corruption and match-fixing lgbt topics around.