i mean, look, back in the '90s, mikie wrote a book that basically argued that democrats should give upy as an issue. it's not where people are. and this sort of old fashioned, you know, grumpy old politics of pro union, caring about people's wages, caring about manufacturing, opposing unfair trade agreements that have sucked jobs out of this country. that's all declasse. we should be fancy and go with wall street and that looked fine until the wall street crash. we have deregulatesed the banks. we have growing inequality. we have an incredible burden on young people today. and it is no longer possible to put forward this 1990s politics. credibly and say to democrats, this is how you're going to win elections. >> ruth, what's it do for elizabeth warren? >> i think it's going to give her a huge boost. >> i do too. >> elizabeth warren is such a fantastic spokesperson for these issues. for the -- just the sheer greed economy we live in now and how it is completely contrary to the interests of ordinary working people. >> john, what about that? >> and her message resonates so powerfully with