joining us now is congresswoman mikie sherrill. democrat of new jersey. an sherrill, thank you so much for being here. i know a lot of people want to talk to you about this. i appreciate you making time to be here. >> thank you for having me, rachel. >> let me ask if i summarized things well. correct me if anything i said was wrong and just sort of describe -- describe for us, if you can, what you and your colleagues or staff saw the day before the attack that raised these alarm bells for you. >> sure. no, i think you provided quite a good summary of those events and i'll tell you, i'm a former navy helicopter pilot. i served for almost ten years. and so at every duty station, whether it was in norfolk or in manama, bahrain, every overseas place i was, and i would enter as a military member, we would receive a security brief. and that security brief which we would be told to look for things that were out of place. look for things that were odd. and look at them with an eye toward security. and so if somebody was loitering around my helicopter on the tarmac

you have my colleague mikie sherrill on. having veterans in the congress like mikie serve us well for the policy perspective this bring. but on wednesday when the floor was assaulted, they served us well because of experience they've had in theaters of war, where they helped colleagues put on gas masks, not panic, and find ways out. i'm so grateful mikie was there with us that day. >> congresswoman sherrill, please take this detour that congressman swalwell opened up. tell us about your experience in the house during the invasion. >> well, that was very kind of congressman swalwell, a lot of people showed a great deal of bravery. i was in the chamber when we got reports that the house office building was being evacuated. we had broken to debate over arizona's electors being seated. we were in the house chamber and heard that vice president had been removed from the senate chamber, then the speaker was removed from our chamber. we locked down the doors and started to hear muffled crowds outside. i heard the crowds were in sta

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>> fascinating to hear you with mikie sherrill talking about what she called a possible reconnaissance mission in the house. and to realize she's using the term professionally. she doesn't throw that word around as i would as a air force veteran, former federal prosecutor. stunning information she was delivering. and what i've been trying to check out is what records might there be of the names of people who were being given those tours by republican staff or republican members. and apparently there are some ways they could have slipped past having their names recorded as having entered the complex. but most people, almost everyone, has to get a record of their entry into that complex at this point. but who knows what happened that day. >> right. but it is interesting that you raised that point about her background because she is, as she describes, she's talking about recognizing reconnaissance as part of her military training but also approaching it like a prosecutor. the demand in that letter that she and 30 members of congress sent today is asking for all of the paperwork that might

. >> joining us now, two lawmakers who were there for it all, democratic congressman mikie sherrill,d steve molton, also both of you are u.s. military veterans. thank you for being with us and for your service. good morning to the both of you. we're glad you're okay. >> thank you for having us. >> morning. >> congressman molton, let me start with you. you expected something like this as a u.s. marine in iraq, not as a u.s. congressman. at what point did you flip the switch from lawmaker mode to marine mode? at what point did you know that you had to get there? >> well, look, i think once a marine, always a marine, and to be fair, what i experienced overseas was far, far worse. but, of course, for many of our colleagues, they never experienced anything like this in their lives. and it was very clearly that the security situation was completely out of hand. it could have been a lot, lot worse. the images that you saw on tv of rioters, this mob taking over the capitol, i mean, they could have taken over the entire capitol complex. we're just fortunate that didn't happen. >> congresswoma

about the fear and uncertainty they face as builng.ner >> reporter: new jersey congresswoman mikie sherrill claims some of her colleagues gave tours to the rioters the day before. >> reconnaissance for the next day. those members of congress, i'm going to see that they're held accountable. >> reporter: at least three lawmakers have tested positive for covid-19 after sheltering in close quarters. they're blaming republicans who were not wearing masks and refused to do so while they wer. in fact, there's now a house resolution that's been passed fining members who don't wear a mask on the house floor. the first time, $500. the second time, $2,500. anne-marie? >> coming right out of their paycheck. thank you. >>> the fbi says it had warned law enforcement agencies about the possibility of violence ahead of the attack on the capitol. that contradicts earlier statements that authorities were blind sided by the riots spearheaded by supporters of president trump. meantime, prosecutors are weighing sedition charges against some of the people who stormed the capitol last week. starting today, the se

i did not have the same reaction that my colleague mikie sherrill did. she's the one that led the letter and has military training, so she put a spin on it that she thought people were some kind of reconnaissance, i can't say that i did because i'm concentrating on the fact -- >> that they were there. can i just understand, congresswoman, there were multiple, so you saw multiple members doing this. are you able to share who they were? >> no, no, no, let me be clear. i saw a tour. i saw one tour. and i can't say that it was a member leading it. i thought it was a congressional staffer leading it. i mean, you can't even get into that area unless you're with a staffer. there had to be some sort of license to get in there. >> okay. so, and obviously you say mikie sherrill, she does have military experience, it made her feel that people were doing reconnaissance or casing, and we saw members of the mob, the insurrectionists with maps of the tunnel and knowing where things were, but let me just ask you this question, you know, because the house speaker says if

into the is it that another member of congress or their staffs lot with a new jersey democrat mikie sherrill and 30 colleagues sent a tersely worded letter to the newly installed acting house sergeant at arms and capitol police chief making claims and asking questions including whether authorities track visitors to the capitol by member of congress. >>the only reason you have a visitor is on official these groups. >>around the capitol complex was really striking this congress led by texas republican chip roy needs to hear more if somebody is going make a charge like that. >>they better be able to back it up former representative ben mcadams agrees the capitol tours are perk of being members but the times have changed and so i would often take constituents who are in town to take him evening to tour the capitol and that's a pretty busy has a member of congress that in march, those tours ended in the capital shot there anyone that immediate family. and getting to the bottom of this will take time ohio democrat tim ryan says it's simply part of investigating january 6. >>we should ask all membe

democrat mikie sherrill, a combat veteran, accused some of her congressional colleagues of some of heressional colleagues of working with the demonstrators. >> those members of congress who had groups coming through the capitol that i saw on january 5, reconnaissance for the next day. i am going to see that they are held accountable. >> reporter: sherrill said that she has passed on her information to law enforcement. harry littmann is a former u.s. attorney. >> it's mind boggling. i mean that congressman, sitting congressmen may actually have helped insurrectionists storm arno territory. swimr kle keer was charged with violent entry for his participation in the rioting. a large number of weapons and explosives were found around the capitol last week and the question that investigators tonight are trying to answer is were they going to be used as part of some coordinated plot. today f.b.i. director christopher wray held a conference call with police agencies across the country reminding them to remain vigilant as they face a number of potential threats. norah. >> o'donnell: jeff pegues

i have heard members like mikie sherrill raise concerns about it.nd out who brought in whom and if those people were involved in the next day. that's a serious issue. there's been great deal -- the crazy new members that have promised to bring guns to the capitol complex, shouting at capitol police. capitol police who saved all of our lives the day before. there are concerns about the safety of members, safety of the inauguration. and it's a shame we are forced to deal with our colleagues, other members of congress who can't do simple things like wear a mask in those undisclosed locations during the evacuation so that a cancer survivor like my colleague bonnie watson coleman is dealing with covid-19. at least three members who were sheltering in the hours during the insurrection were apparently contracted covid and our colleagues won't wear masks. there's a lot of -- there's a lot of conduct by some colleagues on the other side that is just increasingly offensive given the consequences of that behavior. >> you know, when you said bumper crop of craz

. >> led my new jersey democrat and former navy pilot mikie sherrill.public access to the capitol on january 5th, the day before the attack. the capitol has been closed to the public since march. the "new york times" reports the capitol police said it was opening a potentially wide-ranging inquiry into security breaches connected to the siege. the government accountability office, a nonpartisan watch dog agency signaled it would look into what role, if any, members of congress may have played in inciting the mop of trump supporters. according to the taoeupls, colorado democrat jason crow, former army officer, initiated the request for the gsa investigation, later joined by 107 of his colleagues. joe, just putting this bluntly and laying it out clearly, are we talking about members of congress helping in reconnaissance mapping out of the capitol the day before the attack? >> that's what congresswoman mikey cheryl believes and wants it investigated at the very least. we have seen video released the last few days that show people that have broken in actual

you know, mikie sherrill said she wanted to look at that. there will be visitors logs, phone records, text messages, a lot of people if they were involved with congress or staff, they might be arrested for already being involved in violence at the capitol. they may want to flip and cooperate. there will be plenty of evidence, if it's true. if it is true, they should be charged. you know, it would be treachery against the united states and all these former military people or former federal law enforcement or anybody like that involved in this, they'll not only go to prison, they would lose their pension, survivor benefits. when you're involved in insurrection and rebellion against the republic, people -- we hear a lot of talk about people in the military, they ought to stop and take pause. you will forfeit all your military pension benefits and your survivors, and you can never hold office in the united states. these are the strongest laws to protect our democracy. we need to use them forcefully. >> jim cavanaugh, thank you so much. always go

mikie sherrill, abigail spanberger and -- alyssa slotkin all voting present.onor lamb of pennsylvania voted for hakeem jeffries, who something could take over as democratic leader for house democrats after leader pelosi stepped down. that is what has happened so far. the speakerext is will address lawmakers in the chamber. after they are done with this break. what they are doing right now is cleaning the chamber. part of their covid-19 protocols. it also has included today voting in groups of 72. that's why the voting process is taking hours. it doesn't normally take this long, but they had to call members, because of the pandemic, groups of 72 to the floor. that's what they did today and they will do that as well when they moved to the swearing in. democratic leader nancy pelosi addresses the lawmakers. she has been sworn into office by the dean of the house, which is the longest member of the house, representative don young, a republican, first elected to congress in 1973. once she is sworn in, she will in mr. young,ear and then swear in the first group of r

congressmember mikie sherrill of new jersey -- who narrowly escaped the rampaging mob on january 6 -- says she witnessed an extremely hignumber of outside groups in the capitol complex on january 5 at a time when the building was mostly cled to visirs due to the pandemic. congressmember sherrill spoke to msnbc. >> i was flat on the ground as other members were calling -- they thought it might be the last phone call they made. to imagine colleagues of mine had aided an event of this, it is incredibly offensive and there simply no way they can be allowed to continue to serve in congress. amy: meanwhile, house speaker pelosi has scheduled a vote on whether to fine lawmakers who evade metal detectors up to $10,000 per infraction. this week at least a dozen republican house members were seen walking around magnetometers or ignoring capitol police after setting them off. among those flaunting the rules was qanon-supporting freshman republican lauren boebert of colorado, who has pledged to carry her glock pistol with her at all times. she tweeted -- "i am legally permitted to carry my firear

democratic congresswoman and former navy pilot mikie sherrill said that she saw lawmakers giving groups "reconnaissance" tours of the capitol one day before the riots. "okay, everybody, on your left is nancy pelosi's beautifully steal-able podium-- and there's a blind spot t can't see how many zip ties your mommy packed for you. over here is a handy alcove where you can poop, and a lovely mural depicting the drafting of the constitution for you to okd we're rioting, and we're rioting." and we're rioting." the letter claims that the suspicious visitors appeared to be associated with the rally at the white house the following day and that the rioters seemed to have an unusually detailed knowledge of the layout of the capitol complex. good lord, not only will they endanger members of congress. they'll discover the secret location of george washington's golden sarcophagus! someone secure the map on the back of the emancipation proclamation, have nicholas cage bathed and lowered into a suit. it's clear that the mob did have some intel. take a look at this newly released video of the rioters.

into the is it that another member of congress or their staffs lot with a new jersey democrat mikie sherrill and 30 colleagues sent a tersely worded letter to the newly installed acting house sergeant at arms and capitol police chief making claims and asking questions including whether authorities track visitors to the capitol by member of congress. >>the only reason you have a visitor is on official business so to see these groups. >>around the capitol complex was really striking this congress led by texas republican chip roy needs to hear more if somebody is going make a charge like that. >>they better be able to back it up former representative ben mcadams agrees the capitol tours are perk of being members but the times have changed and so i would often take constituents who are in town to take him in evening to tour the capitol and that's a pretty busy has a member of congress that in march, those tours ended in the capital shut anyone that immediate family. and getting to the bottom of this will take time ohio democrat tim ryan says it's simply part of investigating january 6. >>we shou

into the is it that another member of congress or their staffs lot with a new jersey democrat mikie sherrill and 30 colleagues sent a tersely worded letter to the newly installed acting house sergeant at arms and capitol police chief making claims and asking questions including whether authorities track visitors to the capitol by member of congress. >>the only reason you have a visitor is on official business so to see these groups. >>around the capitol complex was really striking this congress led by texas republican chip roy needs to hear more if somebody is going make a charge like that. >>they better be able to back it up former representative ben mcadams agrees the capitol tours are perk of being members but the times have changed and so i would often take constituents who are in town to take him evening to tour the capitol and that's a pretty busy has a member of congress that in march, those tours ended in the capital shut anyone that immediate family. and getting to the bottom of this will take time ohio democrat tim ryan says it's simply part of investigating january 6. >>we should

colleagues, congress members helped the mob that stormed the capitol the democratic congressman, mikie sherrill says she saw members of congress lead guests on what she described as a possible reconnaissance mission the day before the assault there's another claim, too, one that comes from the office of the massachusetts congresswoman, alanna presley her spokesperson says that panic buttons inside her office were removed when the riot broke out, removed before it. now lawmakers are having to take security into their own hands. the republican congressman, peter meijer was among them. he was our guest the other night. he voted for impeaching the president, and says now he's taking serious precautions. >> many of us are altering our routines, working to get body armour, which is a reimbursable purchase that we can make. it's sad that we have to get to that point but, you know, our expectation is somebody may try to kill us. >> the nation's capitol on high alert ahead of the inauguration, the park service working to close the national malr thl entirely ellison barber with us tonight show us around

. >> reporter: congressman jason crow and his democratic colleague, mikie sherrill, have accused other members of congress of allegedly giving tours to rioters the day before the attack. sherrill calling them reconnaissance missions. >> i'm going to see that they're held accountable, and if necessary, ensure that they don't serve in congress. >> reporter: fears over renewed attacks in washington, d.c., have turned the capitol building into a fortress. surrounded by eight-foot fencing and defended by thousands of armed national guard troops. some of the 20,000 expected to be mobilized for the inauguration. >> we're not asking people to come to d.c. for this. this is a major security threat and we are working to mitigate those threats. >> reporter: the fbi fears that domestic extremists may have been emboldened by the january 6th insurrection to carry out more attacks before and during joe biden's inauguration. it comes as the fbi has warned of potential armed protests in all 50 states plus d.c. and an official tells cnn that the online chatter, quote, is off the charts. in michigan wher

new jersey democrat congressmember mikie sherrill said tuesday she witnessed unnamed republican colleagues giving reconnaissance tours one day before the riot and that she would make sure those lawmakers are held accountable. meanwhile, new york congressmember alexandria ocasio-cortez says she had a "very close encounter" during the capitol siege during which she feared for her life. she refrained from providing further details, but said in an instagram live post tuesday that her fellow right-wing congressmembers contributed to her fears that day. >> i myself did not even feel safe going to that extraction point because their work qanon and white supremacist members of congress in that extraction point who i know and who i have felt would disclose my location. miko ali alexander, a leader of last week's "stop the steal" riot, has said three republican house members helped organize last week's violent attack on the capitol: house freedom caucus head andy biggs, paul gosar, and mo brooks. meanwhile, around the country, law enforcement and the military are looking into whether their members t

thought i was going to die," which leads us to the demand for an investigation of people like mikie sherrilling she saw these tours the day before of what turned out to be the rioters, domestic terrorists, the next day, can only be invited in by congressmembers or their staff and the -- what the impeachment trial would look like, why there is a demand to do it while mcconnell is still inharge when the democrats are going to be taking over in just a matter of days -- is that right, the senate? >> i think it is important to understand there is a tremendous breakdown of trust among many of us with some of our colleagues. some of which were life tweeting, continued to even tweet and speak on the floor during the impeachment -- the second impeachment. they are almost enabling speeches about what happened and how spoon io the conspiracy theo that this was a stolen election, continuation of them pushing back against this rhetoric that is real coming from this white supremacist in chief, president trump, and you can see this as we sat there in shock after everything we've all gone through together,

yesterday democratic congresswoman mikie sherrill, herself a former navy helicopter pilot, sent a letter to the acting sergeant at arms and capitol police signed by over 30 colleagues requesting an investigation into, quote, suspicious behavior and access given to visitors at the capitol complex on tuesday, the day before the attacks. she elaborated her concerns to rachel maddow last night. >> it was so odd to see them. my chief of staff called the sergeant at arms to say, what is going on? and he reiterated, the only way these people could have gotten into the capitol complex was with a member or that member's staff. and we now know that those violent groups that attacked the capitol complex had inside knowledge of the capitol grounds. >> speaker nancy pelosi spot there was enough reason to be concerned about the people sitting across the aisle that after several republicans bullied their way through the newly installed metal detectors on the way to the floor, she announced any member to refuses to be screened will be fined $5,000 for the first offense, $10,000 for a second. even though

. >> congressman mikie sherrill and congressman eric swalwell, thanks for being here. >> thanks for being here. >> thank you. >>> what if that impeachment trial extends beyond january 20th? harvard constitutional law professor lawrence tribe will join us next with the answers to everything. including rachel's question about impeachment. achment.t fifr home deductible. it's a policy perk for being a farmers customer. (customer) do i have to do anything? (burke) nothing. (customer) nothing? (burke) nothing. (customer) nothing? (burke) nothing. (customer) hmm, that is really something. (burke) you get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. see ya. (kid) may i have a balloon, too? (burke) sure. your parents have maintained a farmers home policy for twelve consecutive months, right? ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ (burke) start with a quote at 1-800-farmers. with hepatitis c... ...i ...best for my family.my... in only 8 weeks with mavyret... ...i was cured. i faced reminders of my hep c every day. i worried about my hep c. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret... ...i w

into the is it that another member of congress or their staffs lot with a new jersey democrat mikie sherrill and 30 colleagues sent a tersely worded letter to the newly installed acting house sergeant at arms and capitol police chief making claims and asking questions including whether authorities track visitors to the capitol by member of congress. >>the only reason you have a visitor is on official these groups. >>around the capitol complex was really striking this congress led by texas republican chip roy needs to hear more if somebody is going make a charge like they better be able to back it up former representative ben mcadams agrees the capitol tours are perk of being members but the times have changed and so i would not take constituents who are in town take evening to tour the capital of city council member of congress that. >>in march, those tours ended in the capital shut anyone that immediate family. and getting to the bottom of this will take time ohio democrat tim ryan says it's simply part of investigating january 6. >>we should ask all members if they were giving tours. >>in

covid era in terms of tours on capitol hill, and two of the key signatories on this letter were mikie sherrill and abigail, trained to recognize suspicious activity, and they allege that some of the people who were there as part of those tours appeared in their words to be involved with the rally in the white house that ultimately led to the violent mob overrunning capitol hill. we are not aware of names. there are a couple of remedies being discussed here. one, led by cori bush, the democratic congresswoman from missouri, is to expel members of congress under the 14th amendment, section 3, who were involved in inciting the mob, which the constitution says lawmakers who are involved in insurrection or rebellion against their government cannot hold office. the second is, speaker pelosi telling reporters yesterday that if members of congress were involved in this, then the actions should go beyond congress and to prosecution. that is an extraordinary statement for the speaker of the house, saying that members of congress potentially should be prosecuted. >> yeah, i mean, these developments, none

i'm sure you've seen congresswoman mikie sherrill said she saw january 5th, a day before, a reconnaissance for the next day, members of congress who had groups coming through the capitol to basically check things out. val deming said something similar, not as explicitly with other members of congress. i have to ask you with your expertise, did you see something similar and do you believe there was some kind of inside assistance for these rioters and if so by whom? >> what i saw leading up to the days of the attack on the capitol were members of congress taking photos with people flashing white power signs and white power gang symbols, tours being brought through and, of course, it's been shown that folks given tours of the capitol were involved in the assault. i you am going to refrain right now from trying to guess about the motivations or the intent of those tours from those members of congress. i think it's important to say we're going to do an investigation. we're going to get the facts. that's what we're going to do. we're going to do our review, law enforcement will do its review. li

led by new jersey democrat and former navy pilot mikie sherrill, more than 30 lawmakers have written a letter to the acting house and senate sergeants at arms and the capitol police, requesting answers about the public access to the capitol on january 5th. a reminder, the capitol has been closed to the public since march because of the coronavirus pandemic. "the new york times" reports, the capitol police said it was opening a potentially wide-ranging inquiry into security breaches connected to the siege. the government accountability office, a non-partisan federal watchdog agency, said that it would look into what role, if any, members of congress may have played in inciting the mob of trump supporters. according to the "times," colorado democrat jason crow, who is a former army officer, initiated the request for the gsa investigation, and he was later joined by 107 of his colleagues. everyone is extraordinarily on edge as we all try to figure out what happened here. >>> and still ahead here on "way too early," a former u.s. olympic swimmer gets charged for taking part in last week'

in a bombshell allegation last night, congressman mikie sherrill of new jersey said she witnessed a numberay before the attack. in a letter to the sergeant at arms, she and more than 30 other house democrats are demanding answers, noting that the visitors appeared to be associated with the rally at the white house the following day. that's not the only news that's raising suspicions today. the chief of staff to congresswoman ayanna pressley also told "the boston globe" that during the siege she looked for the special panic button inside the office but she found that every panic button in my office had been torn out, the whole unit she said, though they could come up for no rational as to why. and then there's a public admission from the pro-trump organizers of the stop the steal rally, ali alexander, who's now in hiding. as "the daily beast" reported yesterday, alexander claimed in a video he had organization assistance from pro-trump congressman paul gosar, andy biggs and mo brooks. biggs and brooks were among a dozen trump loyalist at a december 21 meeting with trump at the white house,

. >> in terms of the plotting and planning, mikie sherrill, a navy veteran, says she wants an investigation into allegations that other members of congress were giving what she called -- what congresswoman sherrill calls reconnaissance tours before the attack. keep in mind because of covid there's not tours of the capitol going on, and there were members of congress touring and showing all these people who were in town for the swran 6th rally, showing them around the capitol. majority whip clyburn and others have raised questions about whether capitol police officers might have been complicit. what do you think? how concerned are you about these reports that, you know, as abby said, quoting the movie, "he knows you're alone," the calls are coming from inside the house. >> it's a very concerning notion that might have had help from inside. obviously, incredibly concerning if members of congress were part of it or police officers. you would want to look at that as the fbi. you would want to gather information on everybody who was in the capitol in the days leading up to it and try to understa

democratic representative mikie sherrill from new jersey said she will work to hold those unnamed members accountable. >> those members of congress who had groups coming through the capitol that i saw on and what is a real sign of the times yesterday the joint chiefs of staff sent a memo to the military across the country reminding them their duty is uphold the constitution and c confirming for them the next commander in chief will be the 46th president, joe biden. >>> congressman adam kinzinger is one of a growing number of house republicans who publicly say they will vote to impeach the president. we spoke to him earlier. words because it victimizes donald trump again. what's changed in trump. we have 12 days left. is it worth it? but now president trump stepping out and claiming he bears no responsibility, i think in my mind, my conscience, and what i believe my job is, there's no way i can vote no on this. >> you're one of five republicans so far to have publicly said they'll vote for impeachment. how many more do you think there are likely to be? >> i he don't want to get in the gues