so i want to express those sentiments and on behalf of tom milburn and his family, thank you to everyone participated and darlene, thank you for your quick response. >> that takes us to item 3, closed session and do we need public comment to go in? any public comment regarding us going into closed session? we will not start the open public session again before 2:30. (closed session. >> all those in favour, say aye. item 4, public comment. >> i'm john stenson. i'm a 44-year member of our engine phones. today i would like to comment on public comment. i would like to comment because i think you need some reforms that need to be made. the first reform that i would like you to make is that i would like you to change your starting time from 10:0 1:30 to 2:00 p.m. i don't think you have started one meeting on time and the second one is to put an end to closed-door meetings. a few months ago a public commenter said he did not like you having secret meetings and i agree with him. the third reform that you need to make is if any of our members ask you any questions about how you are investing our

the health service so he was manoeuvred out, i think, after a couple of years, and replaced by alan milburn unsuccessfully to be mayor of london, the post actually he would have enjoyed enormously as a londoner and a london mp, a former council leader. unfortunately, because, he came up against ken livingstone, who were standing as an independent and was then very much in his heyday and who bounced back, so he was unsuccessful in his bid to become london mayor, and then he was never really brought back into the tony blaircamp and never really brought back into the tony blair camp and so was left, it seems me anyway, on the backbenches, and never brought back into government thereafter. so a very, very much liked traditional labour mp, big west ham fan, who served on the labour backbenchers. i think he stood down in 2015. so, a long career in the labour party. and i'm sure he will be wildly missed. indeed. thank you very much, norman smith. tributes coming into frank dobson who has died at the age of 79. let's return to the election campaign now. throughout the campaign, bbc news will be loo