years charged with one specification of violation of article eighty five of the uniform code of military justice you see m.j. desertion. i will introduce mr ramsey clark as you all know by now as a former attorney general united states in this sixty seven to the johnson administration you just have to go be leading the defense on the issue of whether the international law defenses that we want to offer should be admitted in this case is that this is a or the most important issues in this case. are coming down to the station. because it should such great importance. to our country tend to peace. in iraq you have soldiers accused of violating international law. the geneva convention. and for that matter domestic law course you can brutalize people under any circumstances under a new law. here you have a soldier. who served in iraq. you to squad leader. his squad was cleared in. two abuses that were violations of international law. you know they were they were stationed out at the international airport. they were handing detainees but what conduit is three cian your man who had no dinner if it caju

military justice system is hypocritical. my policy for two years had been we would not use any evidence obtained by waterboarding or any of the other enhanced interrogation techniques were building the cases independent of anything the detainees said while they were being tortured suddenly i knew officials appointed above me that said look president bush said we don't torture and he said we don't know who are you to question the president so you should be using that information to prosecute these people and that's when i said enough's enough it's been a real disappointment for me with the obama administration you know he said in january of two thousand and nine within one year will close guantanamo that was two years ago so he needs some backbone as well to stand up to congress and tell him that he's the executive that is his decision and to wrap this problem up it's been nine years which is far too long there are one hundred seventy three men at guantanamo you may have seen recently as secretary of state hillary clinton cri

military justice is military justice. it has always been a tough, you know? you sign up. you decide to be a soldier. you are a soldier. you deal by those rules. you do not negotiate. you do not do anything. you choose to pick up a weapon against americans. why do we relaxed the rules? why are they different in this administration versus the last? guest: when the bush administration first established the tribunals in november 2001, they did not have the same protection that they have now. it appeared possible that evidence could be used even if it was obtained through torture. there were no appeals process. verdicts could be issued even if they were not unanimous. these things have all been changed. not only because of what the obama administration has done, but there were two seminal supreme court cases which required congress to have some input. that really, over time, has shaped how the process has gone. this goes to the bigger point that these military commissions are considered by most people to be sure fire convictions. united states can do whatever they want with th

benefits issues are, and what are the changes in regulations and policies, and the uniform code of military justice that has to be made. the second is preparing training materials for the foerts, and the biggest piece of this is training 2.2 million men and women in the military. >> i have given instructions to try to accelerate the first two pieces thf, getting the policies and regulations pieced out quickly, getting the training materials quickly so we can move on and start the problem, address the challenge and the physics of how you get 2.2 million people trained. our objective is to do this as quickly as we responsibly can, but we're going to do it right. >> lehrer: finally, mr. secretary, the captain honors case. the commanding officer of the u.s.s. enterprise was relieved of command because of these videos. they came out in 2006 and '07. what happened? why was there not disciplinary action before now? >> i think wofr the the things the navy is looking into is who was aware of these things and what actions shoul should h been taken and what actions ought to be taken now. i personally think th

corps and the laws and procedures of military justice and the ucmj tells them to a sense it's importanti think it's no accident that justice stephen who wrote in the war on terror cases and provided the vote was the only living member of the court who had served and served in the navy and world war ii. i think came from the tradition of military suspect from rule of law that drove those decisions. i don't think the commander in chief clause can do all of the work that john has attributed to it, especially not if we extent the motion to the battlefield of the homeland. >> david, on the question of commander in chief clause, there's a tremendous article by david bering and marty leaderman, who were recently there on the commander in chief clause, looking at the history of the commander in chief clause and concluded that the history quite contrary to what john suggests has shown that congress has in great detail regulated and restricted the way in the president conducts war. they say where you can fight, where you can't fight, where you can bomb, where you can't bomb, what tactics you can

and a commander -- uniform code of military justice, you have request mast, you have any range of things that fit with anybody. there's no special policy needed to address the things that we're talking about here with regard to taking care of people and treating them with dignity. that's so fundamentally basic. so the remedies you have are the remedies that already exist. there's no need to create new remedies for that. >> i'm not -- i think -- and we're both trying to make sure we're getting to where you're leaning. >> yeah. yeah. >> but if your complaint is one that is really not about a law infraction or something like that, then we have this -- what we call request mast. but it is the right of every individual to request to speak to a superior officer in their chain of command. and so it doesn't have to be because you -- there was a law broken. so there's -- we make sure that an individual has a way to remedy, even if they're not sure that this was a law or a policy that was broken. >> okay. >> jennifer. >> i'm trying to understand more about the amount of time it will take to train

and a commander -- uniform code of military justice, you have request mast, you have any range of things that fit with anybody. there's no special policy needed to address the things that we're talking about here with regard to taking care of people and treating them with dignity. that's so fundamentally basic. so the remedies you have are the remedies that already exist. there's no need to create new remedies for that. >> i'm not -- i think -- and we're both trying to make sure we're getting to where you're leaning. >> yeah. yeah. >> but if your complaint is one that is really not about a law infraction or something like that, then we have this -- what we call request mast. but it is the right of every individual to request to speak to a superior officer in their chain of command. and so it doesn't have to be because you -- there was a law broken. so there's -- we make sure that an individual has a way to remedy, even if they're not sure that this was a law or a policy that was broken. >> okay. >> jennifer. >> i'm trying to understand more about the amount of time it will take to train

work in progress is entitled, "from bunker hill to baghdad: the story of military service in measuring." ..@@@ associate justice stephen breyer discusses his look at the national archives. the program is about an hour and 20 minutes. [applause] >> i guess you are on. a little water here. let me start out with introductions which i didn't quite hear. >> we know them by heart. >> making our democracy work. fascinating book. really the application of stephen breyer's earlier book, active liberty. who has read active liberty? a few. i recommend that too. >> sort of embarrassing question. [applause] >> i will start out by mentioning that you frame of the book with one of my favorite quotes from shakespeare, from henry iv. i can call spirits from the vasty they. soaker an audit or so can any man but will they come when you do call for them? and dad is the question about the supreme court. you use that a couple times in the book to address the question -- a couple questions. why does the supreme court get the support it gets from the public even when the public disagrees with it and what does the court have to do and

bonhoeffer's brother-in-law of coors was a leading figure in the ministry of justice and madrona turbine military intelligence. so the whole bonhoeffer family news to him in many other other friends of theirs, but they knew what was going on. both pushed bonhoeffer for the carucci had. he knew before almost before anybody else what was coming and what was happening. and he would hear things your average german wouldn't care. why? the leadership never wanted them to hear it because if they euratom know what's going on. so we know some germans knew something, things didn't know anything. basically the bonhoeffer family did more than anybody. and they were very involved in this. i didn't say this, but bonhoeffer's twin sister tribune, to me was closer to anybody in the world for most of his last commission made a jewish man and they had to flee germany to england in 1937. this is very personal for bonhoeffer. his brother-in-law, best friend come in many people in his life were jewish. and so, his experience in this on a personal level and i think that added battleship force him to think more clearly

in 1996, scalia was the only justice to vote against allowing women to attend the all-male virginia military institute. accidents of. >> this some of your colleagues said this comment was proofed that it was time to introduce the era, constitutional amend tomorrow protect women he's rights. are they right? do we need an era? >> bonnie, i tell you, when a unanimous 40-year-old supreme court decision still hasn't convinced justice scalia that the constitution covers equality for women, the answer is clearly, yes. >> no, we don't need equal rights amendment for women. >> absolutely we need an equal rights amendment for women. the fact that this justice is talking like this, the fact that the justice says the 14th amendment does not cover women and discrimination against them, just shows that we do need that. >> well, i would say, no, is the reason why constitutional amendments are so difficult to pass because i think there is another way to address it. he is only one supreme court justice and i'm not a constitutional lawyer, i'm not going to debate the interpretation -- >> if the -- it takes to

and he would say no right to our country spending more on the military while of course our poor people are unemployed it was about social justice do you think though that you know you said that it's kind of our fault right that he's become not a person anymore but rather a symbol but has also been a concerted effort on anyone's part i think no i don't think so i mean you can look at his his kids and the whole rigamarole about trying to get copyright and you know literally turn him into a product but i think it's just our society's need to find a prince or a symbol of good that that shields us from the shadow of the ugly stuff of what civil rights was really about which is about social justice and racism jobs housing all that stuff that's not very neat and not very clean so when you have the symbol that's very. repu or that person could kind of you know it's almost like gandalf in the lord of the rings you know only he can protect us from that he could be everything that's good and that's that's something that the media you know church has its p.r. and advertising people churn i mean it's not a concerted conspiracy it's just som

military's ban on openly gay service members. the 9th u.s. circuit court of appeals issued the order yesterday. the department of justice is now required to file papers by february 25th arguing why the court should overturn a ruling called don't ask, don't tell unconstitutional. the government had asked that the case be set aside because the pentagon was moving quickly to repeal the ban. the 9th circuit court did not explain why it rejected the request. >>> for the time being google has avoided a series of lawsuits over its mistaken collection of personal data. google's street view service part of its mapping function mistakenly collected personal data for years. about 40 states were poised to sue over the mishap. but yesterday connecticut's attorney general said he had reached a deal with google and will start settlement negotiations with the mountain view company. a spokeswoman said google is profoundly sorry for collecting the data. >>> the nation's largest cable t.v. company has taken over a majority stake in nbc universal. comcast announced the takeover this morning, though the deal was closed yesterday. the move c

military or have fights with other countries? it is very simple. other people did a great job helping us become individuals, liberty, justice for all. we fought each other in the united states and said freedom is something everyone needs to have predefined the people going to other countries and that is because other people did things that we benefit from. never and never turned that down. one of the things, we have very many that started their training in south carolina that has basic training. but few end up after world war ii and korea, go back there or what? what do they go back to? they became a drill instructor because they learned. those of the things that were very important. some of us were very fortunate we had world war ii and her educated and got training and was a fall back on korea then other things taking place. >> i am sorry. that was very good. let me move on to the next question. we have another question in the audience. >> i will like to make a statement. i receive disability from the korean war. it is $123 per month it is very difficult to get disability. it is really difficult and the u.s. army was outfitted. >>

military is starting to do. things like governments, justice, creating an afghan government is an extremely important part of that and i think abstract is now back there alongside president karzai and clear lockhart who knows more about this is sitting over there. [inaudible] and i didn't know that. on would say things aren't quite as easy one might think that in the case of both afghanistan and pakistan we've got horrendous problems and we need to empathize a bit. it's too easy to criticize. i was a rather cheeky at a point in the press conference when i was there a few weeks ago when i was asked about this and i made this point of view of president karzai trying to balance the pressure which we don't understand what you think about it or not that radical and then he began to realize how difficult this is and i did say indeed even if cameron mcdevitt problem being the president and he said deride and i think pakistan is the same. pakistan really worries me. it's too easy for the nonmilitary and even some of the military should know better to say i could do more and should do more. one of the things they could do

military is starting to do. things like governments, justice, creating an afghan government is an extremely important part of that and i think abstract is now back there alongside president karzai and clear lockhart who knows more about this is sitting over there. [inaudible] and i didn't know that. on would say things aren't quite as easy one might think that in the case of both afghanistan and pakistan we've got horrendous problems and we need to empathize a bit. it's too easy to criticize. i was a rather cheeky at a point in the press conference when i was there a few weeks ago when i was asked about this and i made this point of view of president karzai trying to balance the pressure which we don't understand what you think about it or not that radical and then he began to realize how difficult this is and i did say indeed even if cameron mcdevitt problem being the president and he said deride and i think pakistan is the same. pakistan really worries me. it's too easy for the nonmilitary and even some of the military should know better to say i could do more and should do more. one of the things they could do

military officials to admit but apparently they can't make any direct connections between the army private accused of leaking secret documents bradley manning and wiki leaks founder julian assange much but apartment of justice has reportedly been working very hard to find a link between the two men in efforts to put together a criminal case and b c news reported that officials had determined that manning unlawfully downloaded tens of thousands of documents onto his own computer then passed them on to an authorized person but investigators can't find a direct link to a songe and i'm betting that that's really pissing off attorney general eric holder right now as well as all those politicians have been calling for the arrest the execution of a songe after the state department cables released last year or those who are trying to pretend like it's totally ok to be holding bradley manning. and solitary confinement and of course we know the u.s. hyped the cable release saying that would cause harm to u.s. interests around the world and put people in jane sure but it turns out that wasn't true either the u.s. government played the mainstream media to hype the danger just so they could pursue possible charges again

justice and then you can inch toward peace. funny in these several thousand years, we are still struggling toward that objective. and so, it can be said that our militarysence and force is sometimes still required. but now as aledge legislator, privileged among the 535 men and women in a nation of 350 people to be a part of making the laws and guiding the destiny of what i think is unquestionably the greatest government and nation in recorded history in terms of accomplishment and power, we are in a peculiar and challenging situation, how do we make sure that there are not only no more koreas, but no more vietnams and no more of the other wars, many of whom are unknown, some of which are actually military actions within countries that make it even more difficult for us to determine what to do. and how do we make this grand idea of an organization that contains all of the 232 nations on the planet earth, 6.4 billion men and women of scores of nationalities and religions and races and creeds and to me to be able to serve with my colleagues here being honored is a reminder today that that should and could be the goal of all of us if we are to make sure th

justice department, haven't had an active one. the other thing that's important with cole, cole said he's not really for trying terrorists in the military tribunals and wants to try them -- >> he said they're criminals, not warriors. >> exactly. congress has already said when basically not giving you money to try these guys in civilian court. that is almost moot. >> chris: but you're saying that the medicare regulation is -- i am putting words in your mouth -- but is politically foolish because it picks a fight you can't win. is putting a guy, when the justice department and hold rer already under fire for not prosecuting the war on terror from their end, is this a fight you need to have? >> i think it's a fight he is willing to have because he can. they are going to read the constitution when the house meets on wednesday. the first thing they'll do when they reconvene. i think they will include article 2, section 2, where they recess appointment. and read the part after a year if he's not reaffirmed he has to step down. part of checks and balances of the way we do business. every president recessed appoint people since george washingto

military? why do we have fights with these other countries? well, it's very simple. other people did a great job of helping us become individual, liberty and justice for all. we fought each other in many our united states, and then we finally said freedom is something everyone needs to have. so you find the people going to other countries and fighting freedom for other people, that's because other people did things that we benefit from. so never, never turn that down. now, one of the wonderful things that we marines have is that some -- we have very many marines that start their training at paris island, south carolina, which is their basic training thing. but few end up after world war ii and korea go back there for what? what would they go back to paris island for? they became a drill instructor because they learned how the marines go through things. and those are the things that are very important. some of us are very fortunate that we got in world or war ii, got educated and then we get, got training and were called back for korea and, therefore, various other things taking place. but the big thing -- >> let me just, let me, i'm sorry, sir, th

military is starting to do. things like government and so on and justice. it is great to be back alongside hamid karzai, knows more about this than me. [talking over each other] i have a huge regard. but things are not quite as easy as one might sink. in the case of afghanistan and pakistan and think they have horrendous problems and we need to emphasize more with them. it is too easy to criticize. i said at a joint press conference with david cameron when i was very few weeks ago, the review, made this point, very complex. a review of hamid karzai, really understand they're not that difficult to take. then you begin to realize how difficult this is. even mr. cameron would have a problem being the president of afghanistan. what really worries me, it is too easy for the non-military and even the military should know better, could do more and should do more. they should do more but i can do you having spoken to them, it is one hell of a problem to keep one man on the border requires two more people and this ammunition gets up. to most inhospitable terrain. an

justice, and then you can inch toward peace. it's funny in these several thousand years we are still struggling toward that objective. and so it can be said that a militaryimes still required. but now, as a legislature, privileged among the 535 men and women in a nation of 350 million people to be a part of making the laws and guiding the destiny of what i think is unquestionably the greatest government and nation in recorded history in terms of accomplishment and power. we are in a peculiar and challenging situation. how do we make sure that there not only no more koreas but no more vietnams? and no more of the other wars, many of whom are unknown, some of which are actually military actions within countries that make it even more difficult for us to determine what to do. and how do we make this grand idea of an organization that contains all of the 232 nations on the planet earth, 6.4 billion men and women of scores of nationalities and religions, and races and cedes, and to me -- credes. and to be able to celebrate with my colleagues here being honored is a reminder today that that should and could be the goal of all of us if we are to make sure that

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the of objective of justice and fairness and freedom not just for the iranian people repressed by these regimes but by all of the collateral consequences whether it's u.s. militarypersonnel or other people victimized to dump the world from south america to the far east as a result of irgc's terrorist activities. the irgc was noted here and you probably know better than us it's not just a government agency and it is an economic powerhouse, it's a conglomerate, it's a foreign policy shop, it's a military shot. it meets all the definitions of the racketeer influence organization and it kills people, mostly its own people. - from my perspective we reach the result that we intended to reach with respect to the towers. we invited 14 people on 46 counts with the murder of those americans and interestingly, we couldn't get an indictment in the administration under which the crime occurred. it was looked at and people said i don't think we have enough evidence etc., etc.. the same evidence was looked at by new prosecutors and they returned an indictment and 90 days. those subjects are fugitives. one of the many and tie-ins with respect to the horror and the killings and

military from kuwait, ended the genocide of muslims in the balkans, and liberated iraq and afghanistan in a world from brutally oppressed of anti-american dictatorships. we made the promise of equal opportunity and justice under the law more real for all americans, including particularly in my time of service african-americans, women, and gay and lesbian americans. [applause] along the way, i have not always fit comfortably into conventional political boxes. maybe you have noticed that. [laughter] i have always thought that my first responsibility is not to serve a political party, but to serve by constituents, my state, and my country, and then to work across party lines to make sure good things are done for them. whenever the policy or partisan differences that divided us, there's nothing more important that the -- more important than the shared dreams that unitas and making progress for all. to me, that is what public service and leadership is all about. my interest in public service was inspired by president john f. kennedy who, coincidentally, 50 years ago tomorrow, in his inaugural address, asked us to ask ourselves what we could do for our country and challenged us to bear any burden to assure th

reach the of objective of justice and fairness and freedom not just for the iranian people repressed by these regimes but by all o the collateral consequences whether it's u.s. militaryersonnel or other people victimized to dump the world from south america to the far east as a result of irgc's terrorist activities. thirgc was noted here and you probably know better than us it's not just a government agency and it is an economic powerhouse, it's a conglomerate, it's a foreign policy shop, it's a military shot. it meets all the definitions of the racketeer influence organization and it kills people, mostly its own people. - from my perspective we reach the result that we intended to reach with respect to the towers. we invited 14 pople on 46 counts with the murder of those americans and interestingly, we couldn't get an indictment in the administration under which the crime occurred. it was looked at and people said i don't think we have enugh evidence etc., etc.. the same evidence was looked at by new prosecutors and they returned an indictment and 90 days. those subjects are fugitives. one of the many and tie-ins with respect to the horror and the killings and the t

justice left undone. >> this man has bloodied his hands. he's stolen millions from the country. >> reporter: with baby doc's return here, supporters of other deposed presidents and militaryf he can come back, what about their chosen leaders? >> kerry sanders this morning. thank you for your reporting. aids say connecticut senator joe lieberman is announcing today that he will not run for a fifth term next year. lieberman is now an independent with al gore's vice president running mate in 2000 and ran for president four years later. >>> the european space agency is preparing for a mission to her c mercury in 2014. they want to investigate the possibility of water or ice at the poles. which, of course, may be a sign of life at one time. now back to matt, meredith and alaba al. >> thank you very much. mr. roker, bring us up to date on what to expect. >> a storm system in the rockies makes its way east. that will bring snow through the midwest. by the time it gets here, could be a significant amount. let's see what's going on. first, your pick city of the day, the cuse, syracuse, new york, nbc 3, scattered snowshowers. temperatures in the 20s. as we look at today you can see

the of objective of justice and fairness and freedom not just for the iranian people repressed by these regimes but by all of the collateral consequences whether it's u.s. militarybably know better than us it's not just a government agency and it is an economic powerhouse, it's a conglomerate, it's a foreign policy shop, it's a military shot. it meets all the definitions of the racketeer influence organization and it kills people, mostly its own people. - from my perspective we reach the result that we intended to reach with respect to the towers. we invited 14 people on 46 counts with the murder of those americans and interestingly, we couldn't get an indictment in the administration under which the crime occurred. it was looked at and people said i don't think we have enough evidence etc., etc.. the same evidence was looked at by new prosecutors and they returned an indictment and 90 days. those subjects are fugitives. one of the many and tie-ins with respect to the horror and the killings and the tragedies that the regime perpetrated over many years, but i think where we are as we sit here today is much closer to i would call it a fail-safe point or critical