various militias around key government paragraph a lot more probable as these militias try to heed these. great to get your thoughts there. thank you for joining us. >> not acting swiftly conditions from migrant workers. visited several construction sites. they described a climate of fear. the workplaces that are better off because it does imply that it is the same. the evidence is complaints forward to us indicate that this work remains deficient widespread and the client of fear persists. one worker in this situation is one too many. >> the plans and the forms presented by the authorities lack the urgency needed in this situation. according to documents at least 44 laborers have died. they are among millions working across the gulf. >> thousands of people come to the city looking for the employment agencies that sell dreams of big money in the gulf and malaysia. and the crowd there are many waiting to make money out of these workers. we get $100 from the agency. i see around 60 people a year. some find themselves in harrowing situations. >>they locked me in a room and raped me. four da

>> revolution was made up of disparate militias -- the revolution was made up of disparate militias. these militias are calling the shots. it is quite natural. i think there is a sense of unity among libyans that often gets overlooked. that is why we have not seen the place collapse into something like somalia or bosnia yet. >> are the militia ideological? is it a general decline in moral order? >> i don't think that is the most useful framework for looking on its -- at this. many of them are just pushing for a greater say in government. some of them have got into criminal enterprise. there is a whole mix of motives at work. >> so, are we wrong when we look at libya -- perhaps there is a temptation in washington to say this is part of a growing expansion of an al qaeda network through north africa that we are seeing from somalia to ma li? is that accurate or not? i think it is vastly over exaggerated. networks,ere are some some personalities. maybe they share the same worldview, but they are not part, organizationally, of al qaeda. and we are not seeing al qaeda sink very deep roots

so, all these groups -- there are two main militias controlling tripoli. they both are paid by the government but sometimes they are at war with one another. we know zeidan over the last year has become an increasingly unpopular figure throughout the country -- and no construction, no infrastructure, nothing like that has restarted again in the two years. but there is also a question, simply the ideological agenda and many of the islamists, also former jihadist, it in the government with links to the militia and that is the reason all of this may well be linked to the american raid earlier this week with the al qaeda suspect. >> i was going to say. that is the suggestion. is there any evidence at all that the government, such as it is, has any idea that that special forces raid was going to take place? government said it didn't. it would say it, wouldn't it? but there are many different eyewitness reports of how i leiby a --l libi as opposed limit people taking him, supposedly -- actually had libyan accent. that suggestion is not really clear. you could ar

and not all of the country is oil rich but and it's really hard to understand who these militias are comprised of as well you said a lot of them are very self-serving but this isn't all about oil so what do the different sides in this have to gain what they think the by declaring themselves as an independent separate. government they will achieve two things one is they get control of the oil that is in the region and to day preempt the process of constitutional making. the idea is libya is going through a process of coming up with a new constitution which will define the kind of government the libyans of libya as a whole would like to have whether it's council whether it's federal whether it is centralized government where the it's the centralized these guys are jumping the gun because they are afraid that this is put under. even within the east itself not too many people are going to go for the federal option you have to understand the options started in one nine hundred fifty one but then it got changed in one thousand nine hundred sixty three so. claiming that they want to go back

some of the panelists were mentioning the government and the militias. what has brought us to this step. what has brought us to that point? >> should paris and london be staying out of it? or should they be trying to sort it out? >> stepped up a to help disarm. >> the first time in the government each revolutionary as a payment. it was not part of any government, why did they not take that chance. why are these to cope with the dire situations spiraling every month. >> is it possible to make up lost time? >> steps could have been taken there is nothing i can do without a budget. therein lies the problem. >> we have a comment on twitter. >> it is the sense that it is not necessarily the bust, but i suggest that we keep it going as is. if i may add to that, we have parameters and things on the ground. we have resources and we need to think of a strategy with the national community. not weakening the legitimacy of the state, but support. however, the international community, they are asking for support. can you do it? whatever the strategy can do will be ab

but and it's really hard to understand who these militias are comprised of as well you said a lot of them are very self-serving but this isn't all about oil so what do the different sides in this have to gain what they think they buy by declaring themselves as an independent separate. government they will achieve do things one is they get control of the oil that is in that region and do they preempt the process of constitutional making. the idea is libya is going through a process of coming up with a new constitution which will define the kind of government the libyans of libya as a whole would like to have whether it's council whether it's for the role whether it is centralized government where that it's decentralized these guys are jumping the gun because they are afraid that this is put. even within the east itself not too many people are going to go for the federal option you have to understand the federal option started in one nine hundred fifty one but then it got changed in one thousand nine hundred sixty three so. claiming that they want to go back to the old constitution is

two weeks ago, footage was shot of fires -- becker belong to the militias.hey did not like the fact they were being filmed. another photograph shows a politician talking to a refiner. this resident says it is evidence that the turkish state is behind the attack on kurds on the other side of the border. he wants to remain anonymous because he fears for his son's life. but many other turkish kurds, his son has gone to syria to join the fight against the islamist militias. >> he was injured a month ago. he recovered. it has been days since i have heard anything from him. the fighting continues. initially, after the start of the civil war in syria, our kurdish brothers were did -- unaffected. what does turkey do? it supplies the islamists with weapons to destroy the kurds. >> the first turkish kurds to have died in the conflict are being buried. the funeral of a 28-year-old was held recently in a suburb of his symbol -- instanbul. his friend swore they would intervention. >> our friend went there to support this. it groups continue to attack, then many more peop

the american militia commander really wasn't much of a leader. in his defense he had gotten very middle support from the secretary of war john armstrong. on august 24 as a british begin to move which was right at a river crossing a place to the british could cross the river defending washington and bring the forces around to capture the capital, by the time the forces for a clear they were literally racing from washington to reach the right place in they were arriving at the same time as the british after their serious of brilliancy. so if you look today you can see the shops and the places but if you close your eyes you and look at the terrain and go there with a map you can visualize how the battle took place. the hills with the british attacking coming up and crossing where their river is today where the bridge is they came across there. the american forces actually put up a strong fight under commodore joshua barney one of the real heroes of the story. i will not go into detail right now but he was the finest american fighter out there with s

not all militia are extremists. these are not. untilere will be no order they are all forged into a national army, which libya needs most help with. hundreds of fighters will be sent for training to britain for training and other countries this year, but it will be a slow process, partly because militias have supporters within the government. it are paid huge sums by the state even when they oppose it. >> the extremist militias understood from the beginning of the revolution that their main goal in the future -- their main foe in the future would be a military institution. thus they decided to control the ministry of defense and the prime minister he and the parliament, for that matter, to prevent the creation of a proper army that would serve the people and the interests of the people. benghazi home, a former rebel commander is keeping his weapon say. his militia was driven off the streets by popular protest, but he think they will be back. you keep these here all the time? >> yeah. you may get the impression that people hate the

you have the element of criminality and the rise of militias.it ultimately has to come from the libyans themselves as opposed to being imposed or brokered from the outside. >> before we go, let's say hello. we have been watching the story of libya. humming back to france, a man is breathing a sigh of relief. >> nicolas sarkozy today has been let off the hook. this is the l'oreal heiress. donations to the election campaign that the accountant said that they went straight to nicolas sarkozy. there was no proof that he pressured a 90-year-old lady suffering from dementia into making this huge donation. >> nicolas sarkozy is no longer involved in this. he updated his facebook page saying so. we don't know if it was him or not, but he very rarely post on facebook. he said after all the hours of interrogation, the negative articles, i have finally been pdeclared innocent and he had a dig saying, for all of those writing things about me, remember the principle of innocent before proven guilty. he names his allies and family and the head of the unp part

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no one was killed in this incident, had it gone on a lot further, you would have had militia on militiaiolence to try and have him freed. >> and it's certainly a perfect metaphor for the fact that this is a failed state, a failed government. and that after the war, we still have a lot of work to do, or they have a lot of work to do in libya. >> well, look what the we've learned about libya just in the past few days. you had an accused senior al qaeda member living more or less openly there for the last two years. the person who was snatched by u.s. special operations forces. you have u.s. special operations forces conducting autonomous, or autonomous with a slight tip-off raids in the country. and then you have militia groups that are so bold and autonomous that they feel justified in abducting, threatening and then releasing the prime minister. >> pretty worrying stuff. thank you very much. all this time, after that war, with everything that was sacrificed by all sides in that war, we have this situation. >> the problem it was never stabilized afterwards. they kept the guns. the militi

has never investigated or has never brought a single case against believe been brought militia leaders can face justice. and we try to defy those who commit their wars crimes and it that way for us was obvious that this shooting of civilians on the streets was a crimes against humanity i said that in the who which are the groups committee must rest in libya was not easy in my time because i'm a conflict where thirty thousand people died i see this vision today i am i the news did exactly the day. but i'd be this a national government and there's a debate you mentioned you've got us the situation is interesting because i see no one to go to the i.c.c. he sees i.c.c. as a gandhi for him and that's ok is another part of the role of i.c.c. as far as he's concerned it's a better of the two evils and i just interviewed his lawyer and couple of weeks ago and obviously he still believes that the i.c.c. is a mickey mouse trial as he calls it but the problem is that the current state of levy and justice is so poor and that more people have been killed in libya since the i.c.c. involvement and si

it to the state which doesn't have a popular legitimacy which is challenged all on all sides by militias which is breaking apart which is on supermarket and in which many of the jails are actually not one by effective state control at all. or to live here in moscow a reminder of our breaking news story that militants have attempted to break into the russian embassy in the capital of libya the attackers open gunfire and tore down the state flag according to russia's foreign ministry there have been no casualties and the situation is under control last year the russian diplomatic mission was also attacked by gunmen following moscow's veto of a u.n. resolution on syria more on this story and other news for you after a short break. is the united states an exceptional country the indispensable nation proponents of this idea claim the us is a force for good in the world and has the right even an obligation to act unilaterally when necessary critics charge american exceptionalism is dangerous to the us and the world as well as a cover for global domination and empire. so we leave the people. of

this is a militia, the operations -- it is a militia that has been sanctioned by the government. the government here doesn't have a national security force. it's police is weak. there is no national army here. and the country is essentially, to put it for want of a better word, a lawless place where large militias like this one has abducted the prime minister, have the writ to do what they will and what we have witnessed in the early hours of today is perhaps one of the worst examples of that so far, taking the prime minister, john. >> nic, in the wild west there in tripoli, appreciate it. >>> abu anas al libi captured last week on the streets of tripoli is still held on a ship in the mediterranean. he has not been read his miranda rights yet. u.s. officials say he is being interrogated by a special team of agents from the california a pentagon and the fbi. anything he tells them cannot be used in court. once al libi is turned over to the justice department, he will be read his miranda rights and evidence gathering will begin for a criminal prosecution. >>> 12 minutes past the ho

this militia is a jihadist militia. headed by somebody who in the past gotten training from al qaeda, okay. in addition to that they have a contract with the ministry of interior. you just said not just to protect the parliament. it is for the ministry of interior to provide anti-criminal activities. this is very serious and i would suggest here that, when we think about the next foreign aid to go to libya, i'm for sending foreign aid to libya, we have to be very specific and detailed which ministry is getting this and make sure we're not paying the wrong people. melissa: it seems like the classic problem with these situations. making sure money doesn't go to the wrong people. how do we know who the right people and wrong people are? >> first of all the state department should talk to congress various committees to determine who are the right people. one of the ways to do that, those hearings, proceedings allocation of money. we have representatives from civil society. they are our friend. non-violent people. done demon

these are organised militias paid and registered by the government. some of them, and their leaders are involved and are in the interior ministry and a lot are represented in parliament. we are not talking about a political opposition or a position against the government. we are talking about a convol uted situation where the militias are within the tribes, governed by warlords and all are in government, minister ris in parliament. >> is it fair to say libya is ruled by everyone and no one? >> something like that. it's a decentralised government in terms of power and influence. it was meant now for some time for them to be able to centralise militias in one armed force and police force. there has been a lot of procrastination regarding this, and there was no agreement with the turks, italians and british. so the country is running out of money because the oil production is down to 10% of what it used to be during muammar gaddafi's era. sometimes basic service like running water is being cut on the capital. and the instability is ram pant as you discus

they were the government agencies using militias as enforcers.e militias broke into his hotel room early this morning. he is reporting that zeidan has been fraeed. whether it was a situation or cross wires or whether the group was trying to make a point we still don't know. you cannot ignore the timing ju this coming in the past couple days after the daring u.s. delta force raid in the samesy is it as tripoli where an al qaeda militant was taken. he was taken by the delta force. it was thought the government led by zeidan was come pplacent that. >>> we will let you get back to the breaking development. thank you. >> the father of leaker edward snowden plans to see his son for the first time since he left the country. he did not say whether he will be meeting the wanted fewiugiti but says he has no plans to leave russia. he was granted ussia back in august. >> investigators in west virginia they are trying to figure out why a retired police officer opened fire on a federal courthouse. police say that 55-year-old thomas picard fired more than 20 ro

a well regulated militia being necessary to a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state. the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. this is 10 words longer, 27 words, like the dickinson poem it doesn't explain. it suggests by using images. it evokes the image of a militia, that words that minister to important but ambiguous concepts. i'm the one hand a free state. on the other, the people and their rights. what is the free state? is that the state of maryland or the commonwealth of virginia, which by chaining a militia can insist federal tyranny, or is it a stake in the international law since, visit the united states which must have a strong militia as part of its national defense? who are the people? are they the villagers gathered on the town agreed to use town to shoot baskets during training day? are they solitary frontiersman toting home for its rifles for protection against bears and cougars. even if you have a gun to my head, i am not enough to take that i know what the second amendment means. i do know that as i read it

the country liberated after a long time dictator colonel moammar gadhafi was found and killed by a militia however it since that declaration the country has still been plagued with unrest and is dealing with a very uncertain future political commentator sam sacks brings us a look back over the past two years. i think. two years ago today with moammar gadhafi dead in tripoli and most of libya firmly in rebel hands. the national transitional council declared libya. liberated that liberation came with a price plus two years of been a chaotic ride for the nation filled with violent clashes assassinations parliamentarian dysfunction and most recently the brief kidnapping of the prime minister of the united states which along with nato is instrumental in enforcing a no fly zone and bombing campaign that led to the ouster of gadhafi. has paid a heavy price as well in september of last year terrorist attack the u.s. consulate in benghazi killing ambassador chris stevens and three other americans so two years into its democratic experiment there are serious questions about libya's future amnesty in

about the plight of tens of thousands of libyans who've been displaced and victimized by roaming militias seeking retribution for gadhafi era crimes the libyan government which is dealing with fresh accusations of corruption has failed to rein in these militias across the country which are comprised of more than two hundred twenty five thousand libyans and many of these militias run entire resource rich cities in libya declaring themselves independent of the national government tensions are strained further after u.s. special forces abducted an al qaeda suspect from the streets of libya two weeks ago and militants accuse the libyan government of being complicit with the united states. doing the ongoing unrest in libya are lots and lots of weapons enormous stockpiles of weapons from gadhafi is forty year rule that flooded into the streets not just strengthening the hands of militias within libya but also cross the border helping rebels in mali and syria so remains to be seen if post gadhafi libya can succeed and if the nato operation to the bows to. he may have created more harm than good

. >> every day hundreds of iraqis face religious militia. many are attacked on the streets or their own homes because they belong to the sunni or shiite communities. the daily threat of violence shows the country could be on the verge of a new sectarian war. at the baghdad forensic institute the team led by the doctor tries to identify the victims. >> it is unknown. most of them had bullets in their heads. >> he was lucky to escape with his life. carrying passengers when gunmen tried to assassinate him in baghdad. >> i cannot live or work in these neighborhoods. i cannot even go there. a few weeks ago something happened to me and i did not know what i was meant to do. i was stopped and asked for my id card. he went straight for his gun. i left the engine running and i fled. >> the ongoing civil war in neighboring syria has helped to inflame positions in iraq. some are worried the conflict could lead to another. omar returned home for a few days of rest and was abducted. >> the militias targeted three of us. they did not have time to kill me.

some call them m ma militias bee they won't set down their arms.any will say this is under notch alnominal authority. i the army does not have a presence in many areas. in fact they are coming unfortunate attack. under attack. very strong statements from the libyan government but it's not clear what they can do. or whether or not they will reign in these armed groups. what do we know about this particular group, the revolutionary operations chamber as they call themselves? how do they fit in with the libyan army? are they one of these groups that you know, could take advantage of a vacuum dre creaty a real lack of authority in libya? >> well they have. they do operate like i said, they operate under the umbrella of the defense and interior ministry. they are stronger than the state. they are stronger than the army. some will say that the statement that they released that the prime minister was taken on corruptions and bribery charges. we have to make chee clear thate libyan prosecutors deny any arrest warrant was issued. some say this were other re

from a small militia that emerged in the early eighty's hizbullah has grown to an organization with six malignancies government and radio and satellite television station and programs for social development it's been called a state within a state has one who are the only for this bill are is a very interesting combination it's not just a political party and not just a resistance group but a combination of both they have a political wing a military wing and an economic wing it builds a very respectful place in south lebanon and in the places where the shia are living in lebanon. the movement wants hospitals clinics schools as well as agricultural centers that provide farmers with technical assistance and training it supports families of fighters who die in battle but hostility to israel is the party's defining platform especially since may two thousand when the last israeli troops left lebanon largely because of the success of his bill of fighters but where is his bill as popularity peeta then opinion over the organization is divided most of the arab and muslim world see hezbollah as a r

but until the problems under control pharma militia val to continue fighting back against the growing wave of metal that. surface r.t. portugal. and coming up next our special report on the bands that shook crusher to decades ago some blankets have been ninety three. but almost told him a language of war but i will only react to situations spoke i haven't read the reports but i'm likely to push the no i will leave them to stay current a comment on your latter point of the month to say it's secure yet a car is on the docket no god. no thank you no more weasel words when you vade a direct question be prepared for a change when you throw a punch be ready for a. printout of speech and a little down to freedom to cost. dramas the chance to be ignored. stories of others who refuse to notice. the faces change the world lights never. grow. old picture of today's news most pundits on from around the globe. local. t.v. . the white house. is the building at the very heart of the city. government. to the supremes. in the country. brink of civil. two days of street fighting hundreds. from the supr

in the constitution itself, the militia is tightly hemmed -- held under federal court. in the amendment right guaranteeing the right to bear arms. the words may echo with revolt against the established authority. what does the second amendment really say? you've heard the words what does mean is a lifetime's quest. if the second amendment reads like a lyric poem. other parts of the constitution read like epic. article i, which creates and empowers congress is the heart of the constitution. section viii, the cat log of congress' powers is the article i. article i section viii remiebdz me of the most powerful poem in western literature. book 18 of homer's ill -- in book 18 the god smelt a new shield that the greek hero, akil lees, will carry in to beat over the trojan hero hector. homer describes the shield as containing, quote, a world of gorgeous immortal work. it depicts the entire civilization of bronze age greece. in the image of two cities. one, the city of peace contains weddings, wedding feasts, athletic competitions, law courts, farmers tilling broad, rich plow l

it evokes the image of the militia into important but ambiguous concept. on the one hand a free state and on the other, the people and their rights. what is the free state? is it the state of maryland or the commonwealth of virginia? which by maintaining a militia can resist federal tyranny or is it a state in the international sense is it the united states that must have a strong militia as a part of its national defense? who are the people? are they the villagers gathered on the town green to use the town issued baskets during training day or are they selling solitary from hersman for the protection against bears and cougars? even if you put a gun to my head, i'm not stupid enough to tell you that i know what the second amendment means. i do know that as i read it i respond on many levels. as a bible reader, i respond to the - commandment language, thou shalt not, which suggests to me i'm in the presence of something sacred. as a lawyer, i'm reminded that english man's right to bear arms for their defense stemmed from the bill of rights, the 1689 which e

of bias in the ground or a force on the ground that's heavily tilted towards largely independent militias that are not willing to submit themselves to any kind of political authority so that clearly explains the lack of the ability of the libyan government to not only to protect foreign missions even to protect its own citizens and institutions and stablished men thank you very much i think this is really a dangerous situation right we'll leave it there thanks very much indeed for media reaction to that culture a middle east commentator and blogger live from london well to remind you our breaking news story this hour militants have attempted to break into the russian embassy in the capital of libya reports say that gunfire and grenade explosions were heard around the building and according to russia's foreign ministry there have been no casualties we'll bring you up to date on those developments in less than half an hour from now the meantime a special report on the events that shook russia two decades ago like october ninety three that's after the short break. good. morning news today vi

we have a bunch of militias stronger than the military. the military is week.he central state hardly exists. you can witness days of no water, for example, in the capital. the revenues are down 10% from before... >> down 10% or 10% of what they were. >> they are 10% of what they were. they are down 90% from muammar gaddafi. in a sense the country is running out of money. it is quite a peculiar security situation that might descend into civil war. on top of it you have fighting militias that are not about to give up their power in any shape or form without violence. >> anyone strong enough or anyone with enough will, perhaps, to try to turn this around. is it almost impossible? >> there is a central government. there was elections. there is parliament. the problem is it is not powerful enough. it doesn't have the necessary police and military trained ones anyway, to be able to handle the crisis. now, there has been procrastinations in the past on behalf of the government and france and others who were supposed to train them. the training and the make-up of the m

some of the militia troops, particularly the maryland, which was unit in the area were fighting. they were poorly lead. they were rushed to the position because the americans just had not properly anticipated the british avenue of attack on washington. and he was fighting the same force that the united was fighting in baltimore and washington. in other words, the same british force that attacks captures washington and then attacks baltimore goes down subsequently take part in the attack on new orleans. one of the -- andrew jackson. david? arlington virginia in the suburb s you're on with steve. >> caller: hi. i have two questions. do we -- [inaudible] the war of 1812 and president madison in particular to be -- [inaudible] and masses be outworked. and wartime commander in chief, and i'm including vietnam in this. also, i'm just curious about what role the french canadians played in the war of 1812. were they -- the two interest groups. >> host: thank you, david. >> guest: well in term of whether it was the worse performance, it's hard to make an overall assessment because it also

those militias, the registered members among them are 225,000.hey are paid by the government, and they're the ones who are supposed to come together to make up the national army. for the time being, they are in fights among them. some of they can are secular. there were different regions fighting for resources and influence. that's why it's on the verge of becoming a failed state. if that happens, it will be difficult for any foreign power, even if it is willing to capable of resolving the libya question. >> okay, thank you. that's our senior political analyst. >>> well, the former president of the maldives is demanding the current president resign after runoff elections were canceled. nasheed's supporters rallierall. police stopped the election on saturday because of a supreme court ruling and they said it couldn't go ahead because not all candidates are signed off on the registry lists. >>> dozens of bush fires are still raging this australia forcing thousands to leave their homes. the government declared a state of emergency in the state of ne

there are many militias, tribal based militias across the country. will to a degree, a small part of that growth, but it is a significant step. >> hold on right there. i'm going to get to jamana. she is on the line with us and in ayman, jordan. she has covered libya really over the years for quite a long time. i want to talk to you, last we spoke, you were saying people were just getting the information, just hearing the news about this mission in this town by forces. what are you hearing there? >> a wealth of questions from libya at this hour. it's about 2:00 in the morning now in tripoli and the questions are people are concerned, is there going to be any sort of blackhawks, any sort of retaliation against many of the western targets that are in tripoli, whether it's diplomatic missions, whether it's businesses that remain a very soft target. the government as nic just mentioned is a weak one. it is unable to provide security. there's a big question, what sort of action are we going to see, if any, to those news. people are asking whether their gov

we'll see how these deputies and militias will work. overall, i think this won't have much of an effect on crime but could have a huge impact on noncriminal bad public behavior. i am not the bravest guy on the planet and it's hard to confront a group of five drunk guys just as big as you, acting like idiots on the street but doing so with stone sober militia buddies could provide a more convincing argument for the drunkards. this could be good for the country but that's just my opinion.  >>> it's time now for "newsline". >>> hello and welcome to nhk "newsline." >>> government ministers from countries around the pacific have gathered to talk about the challenges their countries face and ways to cooperate. they're representing the 21 member states of the asia-pacific economic cooperation forum. they will improve the infrastructure in their countries and enjoy closer economic ties. our reporters saw the contents of the draft joint statement and the draft says a strong sustainable facilities like

, which is dealing with fresh applications -- fresh accusations of corruption, and many of these militias run entire resource-rich cities in libya, decline themselves independent from the national government. -- declaring themselves and benefit the national government. militants accuse the libyan government of being complicit with united states. fueling the ongoing unrest in libya are lots and lots of weapons, enormous stockpiles of weapons from gaddafi's 40-year rule has flooded into the streets. also cross the border, helping rebels in mali and syria. so it remains to be seen if post-gaddafi libya can succeed. given the unrest taking place another nation's swept up in the arab swinspring, libya's probles are not unique to the region. >> joining me now to discuss this is david swanson, journalist and author of "war is a lie." in the run-up to the intervention in libya, what was the taste that the u.s. gave for getting involved in the conflict? >> there was not a big question put to the u.s. public or to the congress as there was with the missiles into serious and you saw the result. this

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