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yes because milosevic gave him orders milosevic paid him money and send weapon to boston syrups. it doesn't mean that he's not. guilty he is but. his political leader was slobodan milosevic. and i believe that now in kc. blood that you will show two. trials first time secret documents captured together with him in the village close to belgrade and that will be documents. against not only slobodan milosevic who unfortunately died was. the result. trial but against. leader of syrups nationalists radicals slobodan. voice. who was paramilitary groups killed people on the same way like soldiers of luggage says vegas the law for witness of the war in both in the ninety's. thank you so russian journalist spotlight will be back we'll continue to listen to me in less than a minute so stay with us there we go. for the full. human voice face to face with. one of the most extreme. people have to be far away from civilization. special and attractive. if it is. fixed. welcome back to spotlight on algren of in just a reminder that my guest in the studio here today is city gigglers an off a witn

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orders milosevic paid him money. to send weapons to serbs. it doesn't mean that he's not. guilty he is but. his political leader was slobodan milosevic. and i believe that now in cake. will show or two. trials first time secret documents captured together with him in the village close to belgrade and that will be documents. against not only slobodan milosevic who unfortunately died was. the result. trial but against the leader of syrups nationalists radicals slobodan. voice enough special. cause paramilitary groups kill people on the same way like soldiers of iraq i'm not it says the lawful witness of the warnings posted here in the nineteen nineties russian judge spotlight will be back we'll continue this interview in less than a minute so stay with us still. wealthy british style. market finance scandals find out what's really happening to the global economy with months conjure for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into cons a report on r.t. . welcome back to spotlight than just a remind

so it's just standard procedure for the hague tribunal in the case of former president slobodan milosevic it took over a year for proceedings to start because no loss of a child to familiarize himself with over a million pages of case files and time. is precisely what i can let each doesn't have or. you don't need to be an expert to understand that my father is in a very poor condition he can't even read and has to go through thousands of pages to be able to testify in court but he's simply unable to do that he has difficulties with speech to how will he consult with his lawyers it's impossible he's got problems with his memory he may remember things that happened long ago the same time he can remember what happened yesterday or the day before yesterday how can a person with these health problems appear in court or where you are so the i.c.d. wind may well find itself in a tight spot again more and more people are criticizing their lack of objectivity and they have yet to complete a high profile case and that is a worry for belgrade which wants to complete this particular episode to histo

in this criminal enterprise, mladic acted in concert with among others, milosevic. the objective of the second the objective was to eliminate the bosnian muslims in veb niece yeah from april 11, 1995 to november, mladic participated by killing the men and boys and forcibly removing the women, young children, and some elderly men from sre bernica. the objectives amounted to and are included in the crimes of genocide, persecution, extermination, murder, deportation, and forcible murder. his serbian unit called xorpians. the objective of the third additional joint criminal enterprise was to take united nations personnel as hostages during may and june, 1995, rad co-mladic participated in a disjoint enterprise in order to compel nato to abstain from conducting air strikes against bosnian serb military targets. according to the indictment, in addition to his like through his participation and he mentioned joint criminal enterprises, ratko mladic is individually criminally responsibility for planning, instigating, and aiding and abetting the crimes charged in the dirmt. a

had just been re-elected president of serbia. >> it looks like milosevic is going to remain president of serbia. is that bad news from the american point of view? >> well obviously we ought to wait until we have a clear account. we don't want to intervene in their internal affairs but the answer to your question in short is yes. >> why? >> we've seen all of the reports of humanitarian excesss in terms of camps and murders and rapes. it is not a pretty picture. but the fighting goes on. it is intolerable. but as we've talked about this on more than one occasion on your program there is no immediate solution to this outside the putting in some hundreds of thousands of troops to try to stop it. >> warner: eight years later despite having adviseded john mccain in the republican primaries he spoke approvingly of then candidate george w. bush's approach to the world. >> we have spent the last eight years bouncing around putting troops where they didn't belong and i think it is perfectly appropriate and i think one of the good things about this team that we see is they are going to be far mo

the united states is not harboring milosevic. there are war criminals that if they were a harbinger of -- harbored in the united states and we refuse to deal with it and somebody dealt with them, it might be provocative. but it is understanding when we do because we would not be cooperating. on some level, pakistan was not cooperating, and they paid a higher price than we have. tavis: i hear the point, and that would make evidence that has not serviced yet that the pakistanis knew they were harboring him. >> there was a collaboration between the pakistan intelligence service and the taliban and al qaeda. the pakistani intelligence service trained one of the worst terrorist organizations and the world. they were the people who committed the atrocity in mumbai, india. the connections between terrorism and pakistani intelligence is ironclad. that is known. did the top echelon of the pakistani government know that he was in that house? probably not. iran-contra, the funny of the u.s. government did not know about it, but someone know

they're also from power internally it's very unlikely that in behind it all works so the slobodan milosevic kind of a scenario for gadhafi are horrible here these things are far fetched. right doctors around chalo they are a professor and fight the nets in the school of international affairs in india thanks for that analysis. well ruffles of the crisis in syria to be resolved through dialogue and once the violence to stop it comes as russians presidential envoy to africa met with syrian activists here in moscow are computer all over the details. i stress that this isn't an official visit from the syrian opposition although members of the group that do call themselves syrian opposition in attendance here in moscow's also people from n.g.o.s and human rights groups know they've come to the russian capital to russia to put more pressure on president bashar al assad the syrian leader to stop violence in the country now they've spoken with him because. senior russian diplomats a very experienced member of the the foreign ministry when it comes to this part of the world and he put forward russia'

and they're also from power internally it's very likely been behind it all works so the slobodan milosevic kind of a scenario for gadhafi are horrible here these things are far fetched. dr surrounds how the artifacts are and fight being that single well of international affairs in india thanks for that and now. russell says the crisis in syria is the result of dialogue among the violence to stop it covers russia's presidential envoy out that was very active in your last hour our keeper oliver. ok. stress that this isn't any fishel visit from the syrian opposition although members of the group that do call themselves syrian opposition are in attendance here in moscow is also people from n.g.o.s and human rights groups now they've come to the russian capital to call in russia to put more pressure on president assad the syrian leader to stop the violence in the country now they've spoken with mikhail margelov by senior russian diplomats a very experienced member of the the foreign ministry when it comes to this part of the world and he put forward russia's opinion on this russia of course wan

these negotiations, they were taking, the people in khartoum, were taking the lease from slobodan milosevic who also perfectly understood our attention deficit disorder and the people in khartoum spun out all the negotiations, realizing frankly that our diplomats, although with the best will of the world, want to go home. and unfortunately, so desperate were we to get sudan out of our in basket that we postpone some of the most fundamental decisions including where the border was going to be. and abyei is exactly on the border, and it is disputed because the people who live in abyei have been given a decision on whether or not they are going to be part of the south which is now voted for secession by 98% independents or whether they want to be part of the north. here is the problem. the people that are permanent residents self-identify as black africans of their farmers, however every year, the mystery it tried to our self identified as arabs, they come through and they raise their animals. they consider themselves residents of abyei and they say they should have a vote, and here is the pro

as was the case with slub on milosevic, hey -- slobodan milosevic, removal to international criminal trial, not necessarily through the trials of conflict. president milosevic, sometime after the close of the episode when to the hague where he was tried and he died there while a prisoner. >> i would like to ask some questions relative to the transitional national council. what the thinking is of the justice department relative to recognizing the tnc formally. if we were to do that, does this have an impact on our policy, our legal policies with respect to libya? for example, how we would deal with any assets? >> senator, international law focuses on the question of recognition, and recognition tends to follow facts on the ground. as a general rule, we are reluctant to recognize entities that do not control entire countries because then they are responsible for parts of the country that they do not control. we are reluctant to recognize leaders that control parts of the country because then you are absolving them for parts of the country that they do control. recognition is not the on

as was the case with slub on milosevic, hey -- slobodan milosevic, removal to international criminal trial, not necessarily through the trials of conflict. president milosevic, sometime after the close of the episode when to the hague where he was tried and he died there while a prisoner. >> i would like to ask some questions relative to the transitional national council. what the thinking is of the justice department relative to recognizing the tnc formally. if we were to do that, does this have an impact on our policy, our legal policies with respect to libya? for example, how we would deal with any assets? >> senator, international law focuses on the question of recognition, and recognition tends to follow facts on the ground. as a general rule, we are reluctant to recognize entities that do not control entire countries because then they are responsible for parts of the country that they do not control. we are reluctant to recognize leaders that control parts of the country because then you are absolving them for parts of the country that they do control. recognition is not the on

to bring bashar al assad before the same international court that tried slobidan milosevic and others. they ask daily in syria why is our president killing us? daily they are answered with lies, gunfire and torture. as always a warning that there's graphic video ahead tonight. tonight massive new demonstrations across syria. this is amateur video. what seems to be a peaceful protest in homes that quickly turns into a killing zone. we'll hear shortly from a syrian human rights activist who says at least 19 people were killed today. estimates are at least 1100 since the uprising began. 1100 who have died, most of them simply because they are called for freedom. human rights groups say 10,000 people have been arrested. even the young children taken, tortured, murdered, then returned to their families to terrify them into silence and obedience. as we've tried to document on this program, the regime is also engaged in a campaign of mass produced lying. lying to its own people and lying to the rest of the world. listen to what a spokeswoman for the regime recently told the bbc about the peo

. >> reporter: that's exactly what happened in the trial of former serbian president slobodan milosevic who was indicted for crimes against humanity committed in kosovo in the late '90s. stouffer recruited patrick bald to document and analyze why ethnic albanian kosovoars were fleeing kosovo at a time nato was bombing serb troops. >> was the migration and mass killing in kosovo the product of nato's bombings? of the albanian guerillas? or was it part of a system atic campaign? it's a critical question of fact which statistics help us answer in a pretty definitive way. that changes history for us. >> reporter: his testimony before an international war crimes tribunal was used by prosecutors to prove the intent of ethnic cleansing. with an international criminal court now investigating possible crimes against humanity committed in libya, the company believes its scientific analysis of data will be in high demand throughout the middle east. >> ifill: you can see more of spencer's interview on our website. >> woodruff: finally tonight, a first-time novelist and a larger-than-life story from

i was a part of the democracy vement, the resistance movement to the dictatorship of slobodan milosevic and my return back home was related to the instigation of democracy in serbia. >> rose: but tell me today what of the... how is that remembered that awful period in the history with the breakup of yugoslavia, the conflict thaok place. what are the vestiges of it? >> i think probably the decade of the 12990s was one of the most tragic decades in the enre history of the ball balkans, which was a long history of of bloody conflicts. the breakup of yugoslavia and the war that cocolored, if you will, that decade, was one of the most decades. ... tragic decades. >> rose: the wounds were so deep it will take decades for them to be... >> it will take decades to heal but i would say that in the last few years gretrides have been made towards reconciliation in the balkans and i think it is it no exaggeration to say that right now relations in the balkans have never been better. >> rose: relations between? >> between thearious now sovereign states of the balkans have not been better since the wa

clinton stuck with it and got rid of milosevic finally.e the president shows strength here, more strength than he is showing in afghanistan i might add. >> chris: we'll get to that. are you concerned about republicans taking this task? >> i'm unhappy about it. libya is an odd situation, the way in which the president went in, failure to get congressional approval when he could have gotten it, at the beginning or even to consult with congress. i don't think it's easy to generalize it, general statement where the republicans are. i was heartened that republicans in response to the afghanistan speech criticized, might be correctly, for precipitous pull-out in 2012. with one or two exceptions they didn't criticize him for not pulling out quick enough. i think republicans will remain the hawkish party. >> chris: before we get to afghanistan, you thought about the libya debate? >> if you don't want the situation to become one in which -- i don't care if you are liberal or conservative, i think everybody has an interest in seeing gaddafi out. cle

so you have ludicrous situations as you did in bosnia where slobodan milosevic making serial promises that were broken so quickly that in one case they had to hide under the table they'd signed a peace process on because the serbs had started shelling again within two minutes of the signing of the document. the ink still wet. -- [audio difficulty] i would ask you to think of this, no, this is the human condition. [audio difficulty] you need hate, you need prop propaganda, um, and you can manipulate people because of that. but i would argue it's not enough just to have racial prejudice or hatred of people because they're jews or muslims or tutsis or bosnians. i think you need fear as well, and that's where you get academic masterminds coming in. they provide that extra element that convinces a man that unless he kills his neighbor, that neighbor will kill his family. so really he's just defending himself. i had a horrible experience my first trip to rwanda in 2004. i went to a prison where there were 5,000 people who'd committed genocide, and rwanda's such a poor country that you only

as was the case with slub on milosevic, hey -- sloboda sloan dan moles vitch mills vitch the transitional national council. what the thinking is of the justice department relative to recognizing the tnc formally. if we were do that, does this have an impact on our policy, our legal policies with respect to libya? for example, how we would deal with any assets? >> senator, international law focuses on the question of recognition, and recognition tends to follow facts on the ground. as a general rule, we are reluctant to recognize entities that do not control entire countries because then they are responsible for parts of the country that they do not control. we are reluctant to recognize leaders that control parts of the country because then you are absolving them for parts of the country that they do control. recognition is not the onl tool. there are ways to acknowledge that a particular entity is an illegitimate entity of the people. that will obviously and then go to the question ultimately of the extent to which the various assets can be available to the new libya as opposed to muamma